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December 26, 2008 at 8:35 PM #320826December 26, 2008 at 9:04 PM #320338Allan from FallbrookParticipant
Beachlover: You think all of this started with Dubya? Good Lord, we’ve been embroiled in all sorts of dirty tricks for the last 50+ years!
Look at our policies with regards to countries like Iran and Guatemala going back to the 1950s.
Look at the Vietnam War. Look at FISA in 1978. Look at Clinton’s policy of extraordinary rendition, and his support of the NSA eavesdropping systems (Carnivore and Echelon).
Dubya was simply the latest in a long line. We might be Americans, but maintaining the empire takes some doing.
December 26, 2008 at 9:04 PM #320684Allan from FallbrookParticipantBeachlover: You think all of this started with Dubya? Good Lord, we’ve been embroiled in all sorts of dirty tricks for the last 50+ years!
Look at our policies with regards to countries like Iran and Guatemala going back to the 1950s.
Look at the Vietnam War. Look at FISA in 1978. Look at Clinton’s policy of extraordinary rendition, and his support of the NSA eavesdropping systems (Carnivore and Echelon).
Dubya was simply the latest in a long line. We might be Americans, but maintaining the empire takes some doing.
December 26, 2008 at 9:04 PM #320738Allan from FallbrookParticipantBeachlover: You think all of this started with Dubya? Good Lord, we’ve been embroiled in all sorts of dirty tricks for the last 50+ years!
Look at our policies with regards to countries like Iran and Guatemala going back to the 1950s.
Look at the Vietnam War. Look at FISA in 1978. Look at Clinton’s policy of extraordinary rendition, and his support of the NSA eavesdropping systems (Carnivore and Echelon).
Dubya was simply the latest in a long line. We might be Americans, but maintaining the empire takes some doing.
December 26, 2008 at 9:04 PM #320755Allan from FallbrookParticipantBeachlover: You think all of this started with Dubya? Good Lord, we’ve been embroiled in all sorts of dirty tricks for the last 50+ years!
Look at our policies with regards to countries like Iran and Guatemala going back to the 1950s.
Look at the Vietnam War. Look at FISA in 1978. Look at Clinton’s policy of extraordinary rendition, and his support of the NSA eavesdropping systems (Carnivore and Echelon).
Dubya was simply the latest in a long line. We might be Americans, but maintaining the empire takes some doing.
December 26, 2008 at 9:04 PM #320836Allan from FallbrookParticipantBeachlover: You think all of this started with Dubya? Good Lord, we’ve been embroiled in all sorts of dirty tricks for the last 50+ years!
Look at our policies with regards to countries like Iran and Guatemala going back to the 1950s.
Look at the Vietnam War. Look at FISA in 1978. Look at Clinton’s policy of extraordinary rendition, and his support of the NSA eavesdropping systems (Carnivore and Echelon).
Dubya was simply the latest in a long line. We might be Americans, but maintaining the empire takes some doing.
December 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM #320358paramountParticipantIt takes some doing and $$ to maintain a Police State as well.
December 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM #320704paramountParticipantIt takes some doing and $$ to maintain a Police State as well.
December 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM #320758paramountParticipantIt takes some doing and $$ to maintain a Police State as well.
December 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM #320775paramountParticipantIt takes some doing and $$ to maintain a Police State as well.
December 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM #320856paramountParticipantIt takes some doing and $$ to maintain a Police State as well.
December 26, 2008 at 10:45 PM #320368afx114ParticipantLook a the Japanese internment camps of WWII. I shudder to think what we did to British loyalists during the Revolutionary War.
December 26, 2008 at 10:45 PM #320714afx114ParticipantLook a the Japanese internment camps of WWII. I shudder to think what we did to British loyalists during the Revolutionary War.
December 26, 2008 at 10:45 PM #320768afx114ParticipantLook a the Japanese internment camps of WWII. I shudder to think what we did to British loyalists during the Revolutionary War.
December 26, 2008 at 10:45 PM #320785afx114ParticipantLook a the Japanese internment camps of WWII. I shudder to think what we did to British loyalists during the Revolutionary War.
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