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September 22, 2009 at 6:58 PM #460524September 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM #460352CA renterParticipant
If I were overstating the problems, we wouldn’t have the “credit crisis” we’re being threatened with now.
Nobody’s saying fraud wasn’t rampant on the way up. Lord knows there was probably more fraud than not during the bubble. The problem is that the fraud is continuing very much today. If we don’t stop the fraud, we will never have a fundamentally sound market. If we don’t have a fundamentally sound market, we will always risk having a “crisis” of one form or another. Personally, I’m getting sick and tired of watching fools and fraudsters benefit at the expense of the responsible people.
We would be much nearer the true “bottom” if they had arrested/fined those guilty of fraud, instead of finding ever-more creative ways of rewarding the thieving, conniving scum (borrowers, lenders/originators, and the regulators who LET it happen). Frustrated? You bet!!!
September 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM #460957CA renterParticipantIf I were overstating the problems, we wouldn’t have the “credit crisis” we’re being threatened with now.
Nobody’s saying fraud wasn’t rampant on the way up. Lord knows there was probably more fraud than not during the bubble. The problem is that the fraud is continuing very much today. If we don’t stop the fraud, we will never have a fundamentally sound market. If we don’t have a fundamentally sound market, we will always risk having a “crisis” of one form or another. Personally, I’m getting sick and tired of watching fools and fraudsters benefit at the expense of the responsible people.
We would be much nearer the true “bottom” if they had arrested/fined those guilty of fraud, instead of finding ever-more creative ways of rewarding the thieving, conniving scum (borrowers, lenders/originators, and the regulators who LET it happen). Frustrated? You bet!!!
September 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM #461159CA renterParticipantIf I were overstating the problems, we wouldn’t have the “credit crisis” we’re being threatened with now.
Nobody’s saying fraud wasn’t rampant on the way up. Lord knows there was probably more fraud than not during the bubble. The problem is that the fraud is continuing very much today. If we don’t stop the fraud, we will never have a fundamentally sound market. If we don’t have a fundamentally sound market, we will always risk having a “crisis” of one form or another. Personally, I’m getting sick and tired of watching fools and fraudsters benefit at the expense of the responsible people.
We would be much nearer the true “bottom” if they had arrested/fined those guilty of fraud, instead of finding ever-more creative ways of rewarding the thieving, conniving scum (borrowers, lenders/originators, and the regulators who LET it happen). Frustrated? You bet!!!
September 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM #460544CA renterParticipantIf I were overstating the problems, we wouldn’t have the “credit crisis” we’re being threatened with now.
Nobody’s saying fraud wasn’t rampant on the way up. Lord knows there was probably more fraud than not during the bubble. The problem is that the fraud is continuing very much today. If we don’t stop the fraud, we will never have a fundamentally sound market. If we don’t have a fundamentally sound market, we will always risk having a “crisis” of one form or another. Personally, I’m getting sick and tired of watching fools and fraudsters benefit at the expense of the responsible people.
We would be much nearer the true “bottom” if they had arrested/fined those guilty of fraud, instead of finding ever-more creative ways of rewarding the thieving, conniving scum (borrowers, lenders/originators, and the regulators who LET it happen). Frustrated? You bet!!!
September 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM #460885CA renterParticipantIf I were overstating the problems, we wouldn’t have the “credit crisis” we’re being threatened with now.
Nobody’s saying fraud wasn’t rampant on the way up. Lord knows there was probably more fraud than not during the bubble. The problem is that the fraud is continuing very much today. If we don’t stop the fraud, we will never have a fundamentally sound market. If we don’t have a fundamentally sound market, we will always risk having a “crisis” of one form or another. Personally, I’m getting sick and tired of watching fools and fraudsters benefit at the expense of the responsible people.
We would be much nearer the true “bottom” if they had arrested/fined those guilty of fraud, instead of finding ever-more creative ways of rewarding the thieving, conniving scum (borrowers, lenders/originators, and the regulators who LET it happen). Frustrated? You bet!!!
September 22, 2009 at 9:53 PM #461209scaredyclassicParticipanti dont like to play games with a lot of cheating.
September 22, 2009 at 9:53 PM #461007scaredyclassicParticipanti dont like to play games with a lot of cheating.
September 22, 2009 at 9:53 PM #460402scaredyclassicParticipanti dont like to play games with a lot of cheating.
September 22, 2009 at 9:53 PM #460935scaredyclassicParticipanti dont like to play games with a lot of cheating.
September 22, 2009 at 9:53 PM #460593scaredyclassicParticipanti dont like to play games with a lot of cheating.
September 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM #461234sdrealtorParticipantWhat you are overstating is the prevalence of fruad not that it exists or that it is a problem. While both are true I dont see rampant fraud in fact I see less today than I have in many years.
We will never stop fraud. It is pervasive in our society. You will always see some fools and frauds benefit while at the same time as many or more lose everything. From what I see most of those guilty of fraud have fallen into the second category or soon will.
With that said, I hear claims of rampany ongoing fraud but not a single concrete example. You mentioned knowing of people buying back their homes fraudulently in short sales. Can we see one real example? I’ve not seen one yet.
September 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM #460618sdrealtorParticipantWhat you are overstating is the prevalence of fruad not that it exists or that it is a problem. While both are true I dont see rampant fraud in fact I see less today than I have in many years.
We will never stop fraud. It is pervasive in our society. You will always see some fools and frauds benefit while at the same time as many or more lose everything. From what I see most of those guilty of fraud have fallen into the second category or soon will.
With that said, I hear claims of rampany ongoing fraud but not a single concrete example. You mentioned knowing of people buying back their homes fraudulently in short sales. Can we see one real example? I’ve not seen one yet.
September 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM #460959sdrealtorParticipantWhat you are overstating is the prevalence of fruad not that it exists or that it is a problem. While both are true I dont see rampant fraud in fact I see less today than I have in many years.
We will never stop fraud. It is pervasive in our society. You will always see some fools and frauds benefit while at the same time as many or more lose everything. From what I see most of those guilty of fraud have fallen into the second category or soon will.
With that said, I hear claims of rampany ongoing fraud but not a single concrete example. You mentioned knowing of people buying back their homes fraudulently in short sales. Can we see one real example? I’ve not seen one yet.
September 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM #461032sdrealtorParticipantWhat you are overstating is the prevalence of fruad not that it exists or that it is a problem. While both are true I dont see rampant fraud in fact I see less today than I have in many years.
We will never stop fraud. It is pervasive in our society. You will always see some fools and frauds benefit while at the same time as many or more lose everything. From what I see most of those guilty of fraud have fallen into the second category or soon will.
With that said, I hear claims of rampany ongoing fraud but not a single concrete example. You mentioned knowing of people buying back their homes fraudulently in short sales. Can we see one real example? I’ve not seen one yet.
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