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July 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM #711986July 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM #710946ocrenterParticipant
This is directly from the National Cancer Institute:
“To estimate more accurately the risks of leukemia in children from magnetic fields resulting from power lines, researchers pooled (combined) data from many studies. In one pooled study that combined nine well-conducted studies from several countries, including a study from the NCI, a twofold excess risk of childhood leukemia was associated with exposure to magnetic fields above 0.4 µT (6). In another pooled study that combined 15 studies, a similar increased risk was seen above 0.3 µT (7).” http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/magnetic-fields
So far the only possible link out there is to childhood leukemia. There is no other connections seen with adult cancers. Possible mechanism is through spontaneous DNA breaks, thus creating increased change of mutation that lead to leukemia. Apparently some ethnic groups such as Hispanics may be more susceptible to effect of EMF because of inherent genetic variations.
I would find out from SDG&E what level µT is on those lines. But in general the best distance is at least 500 feet away, and all of the homes on Shadetree are 250 ft away at best.
July 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM #711043ocrenterParticipantThis is directly from the National Cancer Institute:
“To estimate more accurately the risks of leukemia in children from magnetic fields resulting from power lines, researchers pooled (combined) data from many studies. In one pooled study that combined nine well-conducted studies from several countries, including a study from the NCI, a twofold excess risk of childhood leukemia was associated with exposure to magnetic fields above 0.4 µT (6). In another pooled study that combined 15 studies, a similar increased risk was seen above 0.3 µT (7).” http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/magnetic-fields
So far the only possible link out there is to childhood leukemia. There is no other connections seen with adult cancers. Possible mechanism is through spontaneous DNA breaks, thus creating increased change of mutation that lead to leukemia. Apparently some ethnic groups such as Hispanics may be more susceptible to effect of EMF because of inherent genetic variations.
I would find out from SDG&E what level µT is on those lines. But in general the best distance is at least 500 feet away, and all of the homes on Shadetree are 250 ft away at best.
July 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM #711638ocrenterParticipantThis is directly from the National Cancer Institute:
“To estimate more accurately the risks of leukemia in children from magnetic fields resulting from power lines, researchers pooled (combined) data from many studies. In one pooled study that combined nine well-conducted studies from several countries, including a study from the NCI, a twofold excess risk of childhood leukemia was associated with exposure to magnetic fields above 0.4 µT (6). In another pooled study that combined 15 studies, a similar increased risk was seen above 0.3 µT (7).” http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/magnetic-fields
So far the only possible link out there is to childhood leukemia. There is no other connections seen with adult cancers. Possible mechanism is through spontaneous DNA breaks, thus creating increased change of mutation that lead to leukemia. Apparently some ethnic groups such as Hispanics may be more susceptible to effect of EMF because of inherent genetic variations.
I would find out from SDG&E what level µT is on those lines. But in general the best distance is at least 500 feet away, and all of the homes on Shadetree are 250 ft away at best.
July 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM #711792ocrenterParticipantThis is directly from the National Cancer Institute:
“To estimate more accurately the risks of leukemia in children from magnetic fields resulting from power lines, researchers pooled (combined) data from many studies. In one pooled study that combined nine well-conducted studies from several countries, including a study from the NCI, a twofold excess risk of childhood leukemia was associated with exposure to magnetic fields above 0.4 µT (6). In another pooled study that combined 15 studies, a similar increased risk was seen above 0.3 µT (7).” http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/magnetic-fields
So far the only possible link out there is to childhood leukemia. There is no other connections seen with adult cancers. Possible mechanism is through spontaneous DNA breaks, thus creating increased change of mutation that lead to leukemia. Apparently some ethnic groups such as Hispanics may be more susceptible to effect of EMF because of inherent genetic variations.
I would find out from SDG&E what level µT is on those lines. But in general the best distance is at least 500 feet away, and all of the homes on Shadetree are 250 ft away at best.
July 20, 2011 at 7:20 AM #712152ocrenterParticipantThis is directly from the National Cancer Institute:
“To estimate more accurately the risks of leukemia in children from magnetic fields resulting from power lines, researchers pooled (combined) data from many studies. In one pooled study that combined nine well-conducted studies from several countries, including a study from the NCI, a twofold excess risk of childhood leukemia was associated with exposure to magnetic fields above 0.4 µT (6). In another pooled study that combined 15 studies, a similar increased risk was seen above 0.3 µT (7).” http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/magnetic-fields
So far the only possible link out there is to childhood leukemia. There is no other connections seen with adult cancers. Possible mechanism is through spontaneous DNA breaks, thus creating increased change of mutation that lead to leukemia. Apparently some ethnic groups such as Hispanics may be more susceptible to effect of EMF because of inherent genetic variations.
I would find out from SDG&E what level µT is on those lines. But in general the best distance is at least 500 feet away, and all of the homes on Shadetree are 250 ft away at best.
July 20, 2011 at 8:31 AM #710981UCGalParticipantI would never buy directly under a power line for strictly anecdotal reasons. Your mileage may vary.
The following is NOT scientific… the sample size is too small. It is a family of 5.
The house I spent my first 4.5 years in was at 3996 Canning Street, in Clairemont.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3996+canning+ave,+san+diego,+ca+92111&hl=en&ll=32.813536,-117.183791&spn=0.005654,0.009302&sll=32.813411,-117.183786&sspn=0.00403,0.004651&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.813415,-117.183788&panoid=l3-tgD4mN7dHHc___R45hg&cbp=12,258.46,,0,4.46It backed up to a power line.
My brother lived there 6.5 years. My sister and parents, 7 years.
No one got Leukemia.
However…
My mother was the first to go – got ovarian cancer and died in her mid 60’s. Sad but not suspicious.
My brother got Melanoma in college. Again not suspicious… Skin cancer, even this deadly form, is typically associated with too much sun. We grew up in CA before sunscreen was widely used. It was surgically removed, but he had a lymph node issue in his 30’s that they suspect was metastatic. Again, surgery solved the problem. At age 48, out of the blue, he got a very aggressive, very rare, neuroendicrine carcinoma. (Not to be confused with it’s more common, less aggressive cousin, neuroendicrine carcinoid… this one is rare, and kills quickly). Healthy in July (rode his bike in “Ride the Rockies” in June and “Tour de Wyoming” in July. Multi day rides)… in the hospital in August, dead before Christmas. It is VERY unusual to have two separate, unrelated malignancies.
My father had prostate cancer in his mid 50’s. Again, not unusual. Most men, if they live long enough, will get prostate cancer… if nothing else gets them first. It was dealt with and he was “cured”. Then he got multiple myeloma – a type of blood cancer. He and my brother both learned they had their second cancers within one week of each other in late August 2007. My dad was dead 2 months later. They died 2 months apart. (Fall 2007 sucked for our family).
Did I mention that multiple malignancies are rare?
Family of five that lived under power lines. 3 are dead. 5 cancers between the 3. My sister and I get various screening tests frequently and I paid (not covered by insurance) to make sure I don’t have the BRCA gene.
I can’t say with certainty that the power line caused my family to be a cancer cluster. But I can’t say for certainty they didn’t play a factor.
I’ve heard the theory about cells breaking down, triggering leukemia. I’ve also heard a theory that the dust (normal dust) gets charged – and you breathe it in… so perhaps it’s charged dust that is the problem. Perhaps there’s no issue at all. I can’t say.
All of this is pure anectdote. Might be entirely coincidence. But look at the link I posted – look at the power lines. Even if the odds are small… do you want to risk it?
July 20, 2011 at 8:31 AM #711078UCGalParticipantI would never buy directly under a power line for strictly anecdotal reasons. Your mileage may vary.
The following is NOT scientific… the sample size is too small. It is a family of 5.
The house I spent my first 4.5 years in was at 3996 Canning Street, in Clairemont.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3996+canning+ave,+san+diego,+ca+92111&hl=en&ll=32.813536,-117.183791&spn=0.005654,0.009302&sll=32.813411,-117.183786&sspn=0.00403,0.004651&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.813415,-117.183788&panoid=l3-tgD4mN7dHHc___R45hg&cbp=12,258.46,,0,4.46It backed up to a power line.
My brother lived there 6.5 years. My sister and parents, 7 years.
No one got Leukemia.
However…
My mother was the first to go – got ovarian cancer and died in her mid 60’s. Sad but not suspicious.
My brother got Melanoma in college. Again not suspicious… Skin cancer, even this deadly form, is typically associated with too much sun. We grew up in CA before sunscreen was widely used. It was surgically removed, but he had a lymph node issue in his 30’s that they suspect was metastatic. Again, surgery solved the problem. At age 48, out of the blue, he got a very aggressive, very rare, neuroendicrine carcinoma. (Not to be confused with it’s more common, less aggressive cousin, neuroendicrine carcinoid… this one is rare, and kills quickly). Healthy in July (rode his bike in “Ride the Rockies” in June and “Tour de Wyoming” in July. Multi day rides)… in the hospital in August, dead before Christmas. It is VERY unusual to have two separate, unrelated malignancies.
My father had prostate cancer in his mid 50’s. Again, not unusual. Most men, if they live long enough, will get prostate cancer… if nothing else gets them first. It was dealt with and he was “cured”. Then he got multiple myeloma – a type of blood cancer. He and my brother both learned they had their second cancers within one week of each other in late August 2007. My dad was dead 2 months later. They died 2 months apart. (Fall 2007 sucked for our family).
Did I mention that multiple malignancies are rare?
Family of five that lived under power lines. 3 are dead. 5 cancers between the 3. My sister and I get various screening tests frequently and I paid (not covered by insurance) to make sure I don’t have the BRCA gene.
I can’t say with certainty that the power line caused my family to be a cancer cluster. But I can’t say for certainty they didn’t play a factor.
I’ve heard the theory about cells breaking down, triggering leukemia. I’ve also heard a theory that the dust (normal dust) gets charged – and you breathe it in… so perhaps it’s charged dust that is the problem. Perhaps there’s no issue at all. I can’t say.
All of this is pure anectdote. Might be entirely coincidence. But look at the link I posted – look at the power lines. Even if the odds are small… do you want to risk it?
July 20, 2011 at 8:31 AM #711673UCGalParticipantI would never buy directly under a power line for strictly anecdotal reasons. Your mileage may vary.
The following is NOT scientific… the sample size is too small. It is a family of 5.
The house I spent my first 4.5 years in was at 3996 Canning Street, in Clairemont.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3996+canning+ave,+san+diego,+ca+92111&hl=en&ll=32.813536,-117.183791&spn=0.005654,0.009302&sll=32.813411,-117.183786&sspn=0.00403,0.004651&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.813415,-117.183788&panoid=l3-tgD4mN7dHHc___R45hg&cbp=12,258.46,,0,4.46It backed up to a power line.
My brother lived there 6.5 years. My sister and parents, 7 years.
No one got Leukemia.
However…
My mother was the first to go – got ovarian cancer and died in her mid 60’s. Sad but not suspicious.
My brother got Melanoma in college. Again not suspicious… Skin cancer, even this deadly form, is typically associated with too much sun. We grew up in CA before sunscreen was widely used. It was surgically removed, but he had a lymph node issue in his 30’s that they suspect was metastatic. Again, surgery solved the problem. At age 48, out of the blue, he got a very aggressive, very rare, neuroendicrine carcinoma. (Not to be confused with it’s more common, less aggressive cousin, neuroendicrine carcinoid… this one is rare, and kills quickly). Healthy in July (rode his bike in “Ride the Rockies” in June and “Tour de Wyoming” in July. Multi day rides)… in the hospital in August, dead before Christmas. It is VERY unusual to have two separate, unrelated malignancies.
My father had prostate cancer in his mid 50’s. Again, not unusual. Most men, if they live long enough, will get prostate cancer… if nothing else gets them first. It was dealt with and he was “cured”. Then he got multiple myeloma – a type of blood cancer. He and my brother both learned they had their second cancers within one week of each other in late August 2007. My dad was dead 2 months later. They died 2 months apart. (Fall 2007 sucked for our family).
Did I mention that multiple malignancies are rare?
Family of five that lived under power lines. 3 are dead. 5 cancers between the 3. My sister and I get various screening tests frequently and I paid (not covered by insurance) to make sure I don’t have the BRCA gene.
I can’t say with certainty that the power line caused my family to be a cancer cluster. But I can’t say for certainty they didn’t play a factor.
I’ve heard the theory about cells breaking down, triggering leukemia. I’ve also heard a theory that the dust (normal dust) gets charged – and you breathe it in… so perhaps it’s charged dust that is the problem. Perhaps there’s no issue at all. I can’t say.
All of this is pure anectdote. Might be entirely coincidence. But look at the link I posted – look at the power lines. Even if the odds are small… do you want to risk it?
July 20, 2011 at 8:31 AM #711827UCGalParticipantI would never buy directly under a power line for strictly anecdotal reasons. Your mileage may vary.
The following is NOT scientific… the sample size is too small. It is a family of 5.
The house I spent my first 4.5 years in was at 3996 Canning Street, in Clairemont.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3996+canning+ave,+san+diego,+ca+92111&hl=en&ll=32.813536,-117.183791&spn=0.005654,0.009302&sll=32.813411,-117.183786&sspn=0.00403,0.004651&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.813415,-117.183788&panoid=l3-tgD4mN7dHHc___R45hg&cbp=12,258.46,,0,4.46It backed up to a power line.
My brother lived there 6.5 years. My sister and parents, 7 years.
No one got Leukemia.
However…
My mother was the first to go – got ovarian cancer and died in her mid 60’s. Sad but not suspicious.
My brother got Melanoma in college. Again not suspicious… Skin cancer, even this deadly form, is typically associated with too much sun. We grew up in CA before sunscreen was widely used. It was surgically removed, but he had a lymph node issue in his 30’s that they suspect was metastatic. Again, surgery solved the problem. At age 48, out of the blue, he got a very aggressive, very rare, neuroendicrine carcinoma. (Not to be confused with it’s more common, less aggressive cousin, neuroendicrine carcinoid… this one is rare, and kills quickly). Healthy in July (rode his bike in “Ride the Rockies” in June and “Tour de Wyoming” in July. Multi day rides)… in the hospital in August, dead before Christmas. It is VERY unusual to have two separate, unrelated malignancies.
My father had prostate cancer in his mid 50’s. Again, not unusual. Most men, if they live long enough, will get prostate cancer… if nothing else gets them first. It was dealt with and he was “cured”. Then he got multiple myeloma – a type of blood cancer. He and my brother both learned they had their second cancers within one week of each other in late August 2007. My dad was dead 2 months later. They died 2 months apart. (Fall 2007 sucked for our family).
Did I mention that multiple malignancies are rare?
Family of five that lived under power lines. 3 are dead. 5 cancers between the 3. My sister and I get various screening tests frequently and I paid (not covered by insurance) to make sure I don’t have the BRCA gene.
I can’t say with certainty that the power line caused my family to be a cancer cluster. But I can’t say for certainty they didn’t play a factor.
I’ve heard the theory about cells breaking down, triggering leukemia. I’ve also heard a theory that the dust (normal dust) gets charged – and you breathe it in… so perhaps it’s charged dust that is the problem. Perhaps there’s no issue at all. I can’t say.
All of this is pure anectdote. Might be entirely coincidence. But look at the link I posted – look at the power lines. Even if the odds are small… do you want to risk it?
July 20, 2011 at 8:31 AM #712187UCGalParticipantI would never buy directly under a power line for strictly anecdotal reasons. Your mileage may vary.
The following is NOT scientific… the sample size is too small. It is a family of 5.
The house I spent my first 4.5 years in was at 3996 Canning Street, in Clairemont.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3996+canning+ave,+san+diego,+ca+92111&hl=en&ll=32.813536,-117.183791&spn=0.005654,0.009302&sll=32.813411,-117.183786&sspn=0.00403,0.004651&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.813415,-117.183788&panoid=l3-tgD4mN7dHHc___R45hg&cbp=12,258.46,,0,4.46It backed up to a power line.
My brother lived there 6.5 years. My sister and parents, 7 years.
No one got Leukemia.
However…
My mother was the first to go – got ovarian cancer and died in her mid 60’s. Sad but not suspicious.
My brother got Melanoma in college. Again not suspicious… Skin cancer, even this deadly form, is typically associated with too much sun. We grew up in CA before sunscreen was widely used. It was surgically removed, but he had a lymph node issue in his 30’s that they suspect was metastatic. Again, surgery solved the problem. At age 48, out of the blue, he got a very aggressive, very rare, neuroendicrine carcinoma. (Not to be confused with it’s more common, less aggressive cousin, neuroendicrine carcinoid… this one is rare, and kills quickly). Healthy in July (rode his bike in “Ride the Rockies” in June and “Tour de Wyoming” in July. Multi day rides)… in the hospital in August, dead before Christmas. It is VERY unusual to have two separate, unrelated malignancies.
My father had prostate cancer in his mid 50’s. Again, not unusual. Most men, if they live long enough, will get prostate cancer… if nothing else gets them first. It was dealt with and he was “cured”. Then he got multiple myeloma – a type of blood cancer. He and my brother both learned they had their second cancers within one week of each other in late August 2007. My dad was dead 2 months later. They died 2 months apart. (Fall 2007 sucked for our family).
Did I mention that multiple malignancies are rare?
Family of five that lived under power lines. 3 are dead. 5 cancers between the 3. My sister and I get various screening tests frequently and I paid (not covered by insurance) to make sure I don’t have the BRCA gene.
I can’t say with certainty that the power line caused my family to be a cancer cluster. But I can’t say for certainty they didn’t play a factor.
I’ve heard the theory about cells breaking down, triggering leukemia. I’ve also heard a theory that the dust (normal dust) gets charged – and you breathe it in… so perhaps it’s charged dust that is the problem. Perhaps there’s no issue at all. I can’t say.
All of this is pure anectdote. Might be entirely coincidence. But look at the link I posted – look at the power lines. Even if the odds are small… do you want to risk it?
July 20, 2011 at 3:01 PM #711136recordsclerkParticipantThey just lowered the price. I think they will find a buyer at the new price, but will the bank accept it.
July 20, 2011 at 3:01 PM #711233recordsclerkParticipantThey just lowered the price. I think they will find a buyer at the new price, but will the bank accept it.
July 20, 2011 at 3:01 PM #711828recordsclerkParticipantThey just lowered the price. I think they will find a buyer at the new price, but will the bank accept it.
July 20, 2011 at 3:01 PM #711982recordsclerkParticipantThey just lowered the price. I think they will find a buyer at the new price, but will the bank accept it.
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