OT: Obama is dumber than a box of rocks

[Shadowfax]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Rus: As I pointed out to Dukehorn, his unwillingness to discuss his own background is interesting. Generally one finds that there isn’t one; rather you are dealing with someone whose entire bed of knowledge is built upon books and not real world experience.
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I suspect he is a teenage boy who’s read a few too many passages of Mein Kampf and will probably shoot up an entire high school campus before he’s gunned down himself. I think the only people who CAN advocate such practices (torture) are those who are seriously depraved (no empathic response) or have never seen suffering and see torture as some sort of heroic “ends justify the means” mechanism.

Some reporter recently staged a stunt where he allowed himself to be waterboarded. The guy didn’t last 3 seconds before he was spluttering to be let go. If Casca even spent time in the same room as a torture victim, he’d probably wet his pants, assuming he doesn’t fall under the depraved catetory. I smell a poser….it must be the ass cancer stench.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Rus: As I pointed out to Dukehorn, his unwillingness to discuss his own background is interesting. Generally one finds that there isn’t one; rather you are dealing with someone whose entire bed of knowledge is built upon books and not real world experience.
[/quote]

I suspect he is a teenage boy who’s read a few too many passages of Mein Kampf and will probably shoot up an entire high school campus before he’s gunned down himself. I think the only people who CAN advocate such practices (torture) are those who are seriously depraved (no empathic response) or have never seen suffering and see torture as some sort of heroic “ends justify the means” mechanism.

Some reporter recently staged a stunt where he allowed himself to be waterboarded. The guy didn’t last 3 seconds before he was spluttering to be let go. If Casca even spent time in the same room as a torture victim, he’d probably wet his pants, assuming he doesn’t fall under the depraved catetory. I smell a poser….it must be the ass cancer stench.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Shadowfax: That was what drove my referencing my own experiences with torture and interrogation. Anyone who has been in combat knows firsthand that all the John Wayne movies were bulls**t. There is no glory to it, only death.

Same goes for torture: It demeans everyone involved in the process and generally the information gained is of negligible value. Casca was trying to imply that he had some experience that would have a direct bearing on the conversation, however, he never divulged what this was. I get the sense that this is a well-read individual, but until he actually gives some insight into his background and experiences, there is little beyond this.

His casual dismissal of PTSD indicates that he wasn’t a soldier, and lacks the real world understanding that having that background brings. His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth.

Lastly, his conflation of Nazi torture methods with those being used at present to “protect our freedoms” does tie in to your “ends justifying the means” observation.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Shadowfax: That was what drove my referencing my own experiences with torture and interrogation. Anyone who has been in combat knows firsthand that all the John Wayne movies were bulls**t. There is no glory to it, only death.

Same goes for torture: It demeans everyone involved in the process and generally the information gained is of negligible value. Casca was trying to imply that he had some experience that would have a direct bearing on the conversation, however, he never divulged what this was. I get the sense that this is a well-read individual, but until he actually gives some insight into his background and experiences, there is little beyond this.

His casual dismissal of PTSD indicates that he wasn’t a soldier, and lacks the real world understanding that having that background brings. His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth.

Lastly, his conflation of Nazi torture methods with those being used at present to “protect our freedoms” does tie in to your “ends justifying the means” observation.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Shadowfax: That was what drove my referencing my own experiences with torture and interrogation. Anyone who has been in combat knows firsthand that all the John Wayne movies were bulls**t. There is no glory to it, only death.

Same goes for torture: It demeans everyone involved in the process and generally the information gained is of negligible value. Casca was trying to imply that he had some experience that would have a direct bearing on the conversation, however, he never divulged what this was. I get the sense that this is a well-read individual, but until he actually gives some insight into his background and experiences, there is little beyond this.

His casual dismissal of PTSD indicates that he wasn’t a soldier, and lacks the real world understanding that having that background brings. His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth.

Lastly, his conflation of Nazi torture methods with those being used at present to “protect our freedoms” does tie in to your “ends justifying the means” observation.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Shadowfax: That was what drove my referencing my own experiences with torture and interrogation. Anyone who has been in combat knows firsthand that all the John Wayne movies were bulls**t. There is no glory to it, only death.

Same goes for torture: It demeans everyone involved in the process and generally the information gained is of negligible value. Casca was trying to imply that he had some experience that would have a direct bearing on the conversation, however, he never divulged what this was. I get the sense that this is a well-read individual, but until he actually gives some insight into his background and experiences, there is little beyond this.

His casual dismissal of PTSD indicates that he wasn’t a soldier, and lacks the real world understanding that having that background brings. His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth.

Lastly, his conflation of Nazi torture methods with those being used at present to “protect our freedoms” does tie in to your “ends justifying the means” observation.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Shadowfax: That was what drove my referencing my own experiences with torture and interrogation. Anyone who has been in combat knows firsthand that all the John Wayne movies were bulls**t. There is no glory to it, only death.

Same goes for torture: It demeans everyone involved in the process and generally the information gained is of negligible value. Casca was trying to imply that he had some experience that would have a direct bearing on the conversation, however, he never divulged what this was. I get the sense that this is a well-read individual, but until he actually gives some insight into his background and experiences, there is little beyond this.

His casual dismissal of PTSD indicates that he wasn’t a soldier, and lacks the real world understanding that having that background brings. His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth.

Lastly, his conflation of Nazi torture methods with those being used at present to “protect our freedoms” does tie in to your “ends justifying the means” observation.

[urbanrealtor]

Jesus Allan.
I go for a couple days doing actual real estate and accompanying my preggo lady to the obgyn and there is a whole page of throwdowns between the conservative I like to read and the conservative I just find funny (more peculiar than HA HA).

This is like porn for a liberal.
I mean its like if Fox News and Sean Hannity grew a brain.

BTW the reference a page or two back was to Richard Hammes. I don’t know his entire history but he was a Seal or some sort of special ops for a long time. He later became one of the big Poli Sci profs at Mesa College. I still consider him one of the best instructors anywhere. BTW before anyone goes off about Mesa, I have taken lots of classes there and they can go toe to toe with my UCSD classes. That includes classes by Lijphart and Magagne and (barf) McCubbins.

[urbanrealtor]

Jesus Allan.
I go for a couple days doing actual real estate and accompanying my preggo lady to the obgyn and there is a whole page of throwdowns between the conservative I like to read and the conservative I just find funny (more peculiar than HA HA).

This is like porn for a liberal.
I mean its like if Fox News and Sean Hannity grew a brain.

BTW the reference a page or two back was to Richard Hammes. I don’t know his entire history but he was a Seal or some sort of special ops for a long time. He later became one of the big Poli Sci profs at Mesa College. I still consider him one of the best instructors anywhere. BTW before anyone goes off about Mesa, I have taken lots of classes there and they can go toe to toe with my UCSD classes. That includes classes by Lijphart and Magagne and (barf) McCubbins.

[urbanrealtor]

Jesus Allan.
I go for a couple days doing actual real estate and accompanying my preggo lady to the obgyn and there is a whole page of throwdowns between the conservative I like to read and the conservative I just find funny (more peculiar than HA HA).

This is like porn for a liberal.
I mean its like if Fox News and Sean Hannity grew a brain.

BTW the reference a page or two back was to Richard Hammes. I don’t know his entire history but he was a Seal or some sort of special ops for a long time. He later became one of the big Poli Sci profs at Mesa College. I still consider him one of the best instructors anywhere. BTW before anyone goes off about Mesa, I have taken lots of classes there and they can go toe to toe with my UCSD classes. That includes classes by Lijphart and Magagne and (barf) McCubbins.

[urbanrealtor]

Jesus Allan.
I go for a couple days doing actual real estate and accompanying my preggo lady to the obgyn and there is a whole page of throwdowns between the conservative I like to read and the conservative I just find funny (more peculiar than HA HA).

This is like porn for a liberal.
I mean its like if Fox News and Sean Hannity grew a brain.

BTW the reference a page or two back was to Richard Hammes. I don’t know his entire history but he was a Seal or some sort of special ops for a long time. He later became one of the big Poli Sci profs at Mesa College. I still consider him one of the best instructors anywhere. BTW before anyone goes off about Mesa, I have taken lots of classes there and they can go toe to toe with my UCSD classes. That includes classes by Lijphart and Magagne and (barf) McCubbins.

[urbanrealtor]

Jesus Allan.
I go for a couple days doing actual real estate and accompanying my preggo lady to the obgyn and there is a whole page of throwdowns between the conservative I like to read and the conservative I just find funny (more peculiar than HA HA).

This is like porn for a liberal.
I mean its like if Fox News and Sean Hannity grew a brain.

BTW the reference a page or two back was to Richard Hammes. I don’t know his entire history but he was a Seal or some sort of special ops for a long time. He later became one of the big Poli Sci profs at Mesa College. I still consider him one of the best instructors anywhere. BTW before anyone goes off about Mesa, I have taken lots of classes there and they can go toe to toe with my UCSD classes. That includes classes by Lijphart and Magagne and (barf) McCubbins.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth. [/quote]

I have noticed that those who have served–in any capacity–have the utmost respect for their brethren who have also been there. (A lot of us civvies do, too, although we certainly can’t know what servicemen/women have faced in the same way.) It is degrading and disrespectful for Casca to belittle anyone else’s service or sacrifice, which supports the suspicion we all have that he is a poser.

And sorry, what is PTSD? (Can never figure out the military acronyms…)

[Shadowfax]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth. [/quote]

I have noticed that those who have served–in any capacity–have the utmost respect for their brethren who have also been there. (A lot of us civvies do, too, although we certainly can’t know what servicemen/women have faced in the same way.) It is degrading and disrespectful for Casca to belittle anyone else’s service or sacrifice, which supports the suspicion we all have that he is a poser.

And sorry, what is PTSD? (Can never figure out the military acronyms…)

[Shadowfax]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]His reference to my military background being “thin” when I spent three straight years doing counterinsurgency work also shows a lack of depth. [/quote]

I have noticed that those who have served–in any capacity–have the utmost respect for their brethren who have also been there. (A lot of us civvies do, too, although we certainly can’t know what servicemen/women have faced in the same way.) It is degrading and disrespectful for Casca to belittle anyone else’s service or sacrifice, which supports the suspicion we all have that he is a poser.

And sorry, what is PTSD? (Can never figure out the military acronyms…)

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