OT: Obama is dumber than a box of rocks

[gandalf]

Wow, casca. That’s racist.

What you’ve basically implied is Obama is just another black man who doesn’t work, doesn’t have an education, only got ahead because of affirmative action, etc. That’s RACISM in a nutshell.

What stands out the most is the statements you’ve made have almost no basis in reality. The man excelled in a number of extremely competitive environments which require WORK and COMPETITION. The previous poster pointed this out, as well as some other mistruths, with incisive clarity. So basically, you’re not just a lying, dishonest partisan, you’re also a racist. You’re more like marion than you realize.

The only thing you’ve mentioned that seems to have any factual basis is the Rezko connection, which I will confess troubles me as well. Then again, I wonder if there are any politicians out there that can’t be ‘associated’ with a criminal. Seems like most politicians ARE criminals these days, another senator indicted just the other day. The corruption is systemic and it crosses party lines.

All in all, I find the dishonest, lying partisan crap that gets posted here to be OFFENSIVE, particularly when it employs racial stereotypes. It’s depressing to watch a ‘class’ site like Piggs get taken down with all of this noise. We pride ourselves in bringing data and substance. Both McCain and Obama are exceptional individuals, both qualified to be president. I would prefer to see a more respectful and reality-based discussion. And definitely NO RACISM.

[Casca]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Do you really consider the work as a legislator in the last 11 years to be totally irrelevant?
[/quote]

Considering that I have had a unique intimacy with the workings of state legislatures in my past, I am confident in rendering the judgment that the lower one delves into the strata of American politics, the more corrupt it becomes, simply because there is less visibility into the sausage making.

My years in Chicago were an education in corruption. There is no such thing as a “clean” Chicago politician. Bobama’s years in the Illinois house qualify him for the presidency if one desires a cash & carry executive ala Clintonian pardon selling, MIRV tech sales to China, coalfield sales to Indonesian patrons, etc, etc, etc.

I have a different view, based in the restraint one learns as a young military officer. Having the power to do something, doesn’t make it right. Lawyers, and petty politicians aren’t taught this sort of thing. This is but one of the maws in his education.

[Casca]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Do you really consider the work as a legislator in the last 11 years to be totally irrelevant?
[/quote]

Considering that I have had a unique intimacy with the workings of state legislatures in my past, I am confident in rendering the judgment that the lower one delves into the strata of American politics, the more corrupt it becomes, simply because there is less visibility into the sausage making.

My years in Chicago were an education in corruption. There is no such thing as a “clean” Chicago politician. Bobama’s years in the Illinois house qualify him for the presidency if one desires a cash & carry executive ala Clintonian pardon selling, MIRV tech sales to China, coalfield sales to Indonesian patrons, etc, etc, etc.

I have a different view, based in the restraint one learns as a young military officer. Having the power to do something, doesn’t make it right. Lawyers, and petty politicians aren’t taught this sort of thing. This is but one of the maws in his education.

[Casca]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Do you really consider the work as a legislator in the last 11 years to be totally irrelevant?
[/quote]

Considering that I have had a unique intimacy with the workings of state legislatures in my past, I am confident in rendering the judgment that the lower one delves into the strata of American politics, the more corrupt it becomes, simply because there is less visibility into the sausage making.

My years in Chicago were an education in corruption. There is no such thing as a “clean” Chicago politician. Bobama’s years in the Illinois house qualify him for the presidency if one desires a cash & carry executive ala Clintonian pardon selling, MIRV tech sales to China, coalfield sales to Indonesian patrons, etc, etc, etc.

I have a different view, based in the restraint one learns as a young military officer. Having the power to do something, doesn’t make it right. Lawyers, and petty politicians aren’t taught this sort of thing. This is but one of the maws in his education.

[Casca]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Do you really consider the work as a legislator in the last 11 years to be totally irrelevant?
[/quote]

Considering that I have had a unique intimacy with the workings of state legislatures in my past, I am confident in rendering the judgment that the lower one delves into the strata of American politics, the more corrupt it becomes, simply because there is less visibility into the sausage making.

My years in Chicago were an education in corruption. There is no such thing as a “clean” Chicago politician. Bobama’s years in the Illinois house qualify him for the presidency if one desires a cash & carry executive ala Clintonian pardon selling, MIRV tech sales to China, coalfield sales to Indonesian patrons, etc, etc, etc.

I have a different view, based in the restraint one learns as a young military officer. Having the power to do something, doesn’t make it right. Lawyers, and petty politicians aren’t taught this sort of thing. This is but one of the maws in his education.

[Casca]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Do you really consider the work as a legislator in the last 11 years to be totally irrelevant?
[/quote]

Considering that I have had a unique intimacy with the workings of state legislatures in my past, I am confident in rendering the judgment that the lower one delves into the strata of American politics, the more corrupt it becomes, simply because there is less visibility into the sausage making.

My years in Chicago were an education in corruption. There is no such thing as a “clean” Chicago politician. Bobama’s years in the Illinois house qualify him for the presidency if one desires a cash & carry executive ala Clintonian pardon selling, MIRV tech sales to China, coalfield sales to Indonesian patrons, etc, etc, etc.

I have a different view, based in the restraint one learns as a young military officer. Having the power to do something, doesn’t make it right. Lawyers, and petty politicians aren’t taught this sort of thing. This is but one of the maws in his education.

[cr]

This is not a reply to any of the previous comments, and it’s actually ON TOPIC for housing and concerns Obama. I just don’t want another Obama thread:

Obama: ‘What we need is a floor in the housing market’
[quote=OBAMA]Well, I–you know, I think that part of what we have to recognize is they’ve got $5 trillion worth of, worth of mortgages out there, and we’ve got to make some decisions in terms of whether or not we want to take that — those liabilities onto the federal balance sheet. So there are, there are a host of complicated issues here. It is true that there may be some folks who didn’t make the best decision that will still benefit from the home foreclosure plans that have been put forward. But keep in mind that many of these folks were not so much speculators as they were probably in over their heads. They tried to get more house than they could afford because they were told by these mortgage brokers that they could afford it. We are better off helping them stay in their home if you can fix the mortgage and let them pay it off over time than have them foreclose, in which not only do they lose their home, not only do the lenders lose a lot, but that community suddenly sees its property values going down. And what we need is a floor in the housing market, a, a stop to the decline in housing values, as well as some certainty on the part of lenders in terms of what houses are worth so that we can start restoring confidence in the housing market, but also confidence in the financial markets where credit has been contracting. And that’s affecting a lot of terrific businesses and good sound developments and entrepreneurial opportunities because they just can’t get good credit.[/quote]

Here’s more:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/07/obama-what-we-n.html

[cr]

This is not a reply to any of the previous comments, and it’s actually ON TOPIC for housing and concerns Obama. I just don’t want another Obama thread:

Obama: ‘What we need is a floor in the housing market’
[quote=OBAMA]Well, I–you know, I think that part of what we have to recognize is they’ve got $5 trillion worth of, worth of mortgages out there, and we’ve got to make some decisions in terms of whether or not we want to take that — those liabilities onto the federal balance sheet. So there are, there are a host of complicated issues here. It is true that there may be some folks who didn’t make the best decision that will still benefit from the home foreclosure plans that have been put forward. But keep in mind that many of these folks were not so much speculators as they were probably in over their heads. They tried to get more house than they could afford because they were told by these mortgage brokers that they could afford it. We are better off helping them stay in their home if you can fix the mortgage and let them pay it off over time than have them foreclose, in which not only do they lose their home, not only do the lenders lose a lot, but that community suddenly sees its property values going down. And what we need is a floor in the housing market, a, a stop to the decline in housing values, as well as some certainty on the part of lenders in terms of what houses are worth so that we can start restoring confidence in the housing market, but also confidence in the financial markets where credit has been contracting. And that’s affecting a lot of terrific businesses and good sound developments and entrepreneurial opportunities because they just can’t get good credit.[/quote]

Here’s more:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/07/obama-what-we-n.html

[cr]

This is not a reply to any of the previous comments, and it’s actually ON TOPIC for housing and concerns Obama. I just don’t want another Obama thread:

Obama: ‘What we need is a floor in the housing market’
[quote=OBAMA]Well, I–you know, I think that part of what we have to recognize is they’ve got $5 trillion worth of, worth of mortgages out there, and we’ve got to make some decisions in terms of whether or not we want to take that — those liabilities onto the federal balance sheet. So there are, there are a host of complicated issues here. It is true that there may be some folks who didn’t make the best decision that will still benefit from the home foreclosure plans that have been put forward. But keep in mind that many of these folks were not so much speculators as they were probably in over their heads. They tried to get more house than they could afford because they were told by these mortgage brokers that they could afford it. We are better off helping them stay in their home if you can fix the mortgage and let them pay it off over time than have them foreclose, in which not only do they lose their home, not only do the lenders lose a lot, but that community suddenly sees its property values going down. And what we need is a floor in the housing market, a, a stop to the decline in housing values, as well as some certainty on the part of lenders in terms of what houses are worth so that we can start restoring confidence in the housing market, but also confidence in the financial markets where credit has been contracting. And that’s affecting a lot of terrific businesses and good sound developments and entrepreneurial opportunities because they just can’t get good credit.[/quote]

Here’s more:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/07/obama-what-we-n.html

[cr]

This is not a reply to any of the previous comments, and it’s actually ON TOPIC for housing and concerns Obama. I just don’t want another Obama thread:

Obama: ‘What we need is a floor in the housing market’
[quote=OBAMA]Well, I–you know, I think that part of what we have to recognize is they’ve got $5 trillion worth of, worth of mortgages out there, and we’ve got to make some decisions in terms of whether or not we want to take that — those liabilities onto the federal balance sheet. So there are, there are a host of complicated issues here. It is true that there may be some folks who didn’t make the best decision that will still benefit from the home foreclosure plans that have been put forward. But keep in mind that many of these folks were not so much speculators as they were probably in over their heads. They tried to get more house than they could afford because they were told by these mortgage brokers that they could afford it. We are better off helping them stay in their home if you can fix the mortgage and let them pay it off over time than have them foreclose, in which not only do they lose their home, not only do the lenders lose a lot, but that community suddenly sees its property values going down. And what we need is a floor in the housing market, a, a stop to the decline in housing values, as well as some certainty on the part of lenders in terms of what houses are worth so that we can start restoring confidence in the housing market, but also confidence in the financial markets where credit has been contracting. And that’s affecting a lot of terrific businesses and good sound developments and entrepreneurial opportunities because they just can’t get good credit.[/quote]

Here’s more:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/07/obama-what-we-n.html

[cr]

This is not a reply to any of the previous comments, and it’s actually ON TOPIC for housing and concerns Obama. I just don’t want another Obama thread:

Obama: ‘What we need is a floor in the housing market’
[quote=OBAMA]Well, I–you know, I think that part of what we have to recognize is they’ve got $5 trillion worth of, worth of mortgages out there, and we’ve got to make some decisions in terms of whether or not we want to take that — those liabilities onto the federal balance sheet. So there are, there are a host of complicated issues here. It is true that there may be some folks who didn’t make the best decision that will still benefit from the home foreclosure plans that have been put forward. But keep in mind that many of these folks were not so much speculators as they were probably in over their heads. They tried to get more house than they could afford because they were told by these mortgage brokers that they could afford it. We are better off helping them stay in their home if you can fix the mortgage and let them pay it off over time than have them foreclose, in which not only do they lose their home, not only do the lenders lose a lot, but that community suddenly sees its property values going down. And what we need is a floor in the housing market, a, a stop to the decline in housing values, as well as some certainty on the part of lenders in terms of what houses are worth so that we can start restoring confidence in the housing market, but also confidence in the financial markets where credit has been contracting. And that’s affecting a lot of terrific businesses and good sound developments and entrepreneurial opportunities because they just can’t get good credit.[/quote]

Here’s more:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/07/obama-what-we-n.html

[Portlock]

How did you coin BO-bama? Why preceded with a ‘B’?

[Portlock]

How did you coin BO-bama? Why preceded with a ‘B’?

[Portlock]

How did you coin BO-bama? Why preceded with a ‘B’?

[Portlock]

How did you coin BO-bama? Why preceded with a ‘B’?

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