OT: Celtics vs. Lakers

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Russell]
I understand someone with a love of sports wanting to have the privelege of playing and having that be sponsored by the school. That said, I am not sure I see any overiding value in sports and schools going hand in hand to the degree that they do, at any level. Given the way things are, I wouldn’t let my opinions interfere with my kid’s,or any kid’s wishes to particpate either.[/quote]

Russell: What about the values instilled by team sports? Forgetting football, or basketball, or baseball for a second. What about crew? Wrestling? Field hockey?

I never played collegiate sports, but I did play high school sports (football, baseball and wrestling) and those memories are still with me today, along with the lessons I learned about adversity, teamwork and striving for goals. Part of the college experience is the various extracurricular activities you participate in, including sports. If you treat the values instilled by team sports as being part of what makes you a better person, wouldn’t academics and athletics go hand-in-hand? Isn’t the whole point behind the notion of a student-athlete?

[NotCranky]

[quote=desmond]back on topic, Laker haters, goes to show you how many non-natives their are, Go Lakers![/quote]

I am a native, Born in L.A. Was a Dodger and Laker fan as a child. Now, I would go for the team with the most individuals I admired as players and people.If that was hard to decide, I’d go for the underdogs.I guess something happened along the way. No hate involved.

[NotCranky]

[quote=desmond]back on topic, Laker haters, goes to show you how many non-natives their are, Go Lakers![/quote]

I am a native, Born in L.A. Was a Dodger and Laker fan as a child. Now, I would go for the team with the most individuals I admired as players and people.If that was hard to decide, I’d go for the underdogs.I guess something happened along the way. No hate involved.

[NotCranky]

[quote=desmond]back on topic, Laker haters, goes to show you how many non-natives their are, Go Lakers![/quote]

I am a native, Born in L.A. Was a Dodger and Laker fan as a child. Now, I would go for the team with the most individuals I admired as players and people.If that was hard to decide, I’d go for the underdogs.I guess something happened along the way. No hate involved.

[NotCranky]

[quote=desmond]back on topic, Laker haters, goes to show you how many non-natives their are, Go Lakers![/quote]

I am a native, Born in L.A. Was a Dodger and Laker fan as a child. Now, I would go for the team with the most individuals I admired as players and people.If that was hard to decide, I’d go for the underdogs.I guess something happened along the way. No hate involved.

[NotCranky]

[quote=desmond]back on topic, Laker haters, goes to show you how many non-natives their are, Go Lakers![/quote]

I am a native, Born in L.A. Was a Dodger and Laker fan as a child. Now, I would go for the team with the most individuals I admired as players and people.If that was hard to decide, I’d go for the underdogs.I guess something happened along the way. No hate involved.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]
I understand someone with a love of sports wanting to have the privelege of playing and having that be sponsored by the school. That said, I am not sure I see any overiding value in sports and schools going hand in hand to the degree that they do, at any level. Given the way things are, I wouldn’t let my opinions interfere with my kid’s,or any kid’s wishes to particpate either.[/quote]

Russell: What about the values instilled by team sports? Forgetting football, or basketball, or baseball for a second. What about crew? Wrestling? Field hockey?

I never played collegiate sports, but I did play high school sports (football, baseball and wrestling) and those memories are still with me today, along with the lessons I learned about adversity, teamwork and striving for goals. Part of the college experience is the various extracurricular activities you participate in, including sports. If you treat the values instilled by team sports as being part of what makes you a better person, wouldn’t academics and athletics go hand-in-hand? Isn’t the whole point behind the notion of a student-athlete?[/quote]

I know that these are the common arguments but the mixing of sport and school through college doesn’t seem necessary. Only a small minority can be student-athletes and yet everyone else manages to learn how to live. Most those things you mention can an should be learned by children with or without sports. Memories are great. Having the privelege to make them in an academic enviornment as a young adult seems like a gift not a necessity.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]
I understand someone with a love of sports wanting to have the privelege of playing and having that be sponsored by the school. That said, I am not sure I see any overiding value in sports and schools going hand in hand to the degree that they do, at any level. Given the way things are, I wouldn’t let my opinions interfere with my kid’s,or any kid’s wishes to particpate either.[/quote]

Russell: What about the values instilled by team sports? Forgetting football, or basketball, or baseball for a second. What about crew? Wrestling? Field hockey?

I never played collegiate sports, but I did play high school sports (football, baseball and wrestling) and those memories are still with me today, along with the lessons I learned about adversity, teamwork and striving for goals. Part of the college experience is the various extracurricular activities you participate in, including sports. If you treat the values instilled by team sports as being part of what makes you a better person, wouldn’t academics and athletics go hand-in-hand? Isn’t the whole point behind the notion of a student-athlete?[/quote]

I know that these are the common arguments but the mixing of sport and school through college doesn’t seem necessary. Only a small minority can be student-athletes and yet everyone else manages to learn how to live. Most those things you mention can an should be learned by children with or without sports. Memories are great. Having the privelege to make them in an academic enviornment as a young adult seems like a gift not a necessity.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]
I understand someone with a love of sports wanting to have the privelege of playing and having that be sponsored by the school. That said, I am not sure I see any overiding value in sports and schools going hand in hand to the degree that they do, at any level. Given the way things are, I wouldn’t let my opinions interfere with my kid’s,or any kid’s wishes to particpate either.[/quote]

Russell: What about the values instilled by team sports? Forgetting football, or basketball, or baseball for a second. What about crew? Wrestling? Field hockey?

I never played collegiate sports, but I did play high school sports (football, baseball and wrestling) and those memories are still with me today, along with the lessons I learned about adversity, teamwork and striving for goals. Part of the college experience is the various extracurricular activities you participate in, including sports. If you treat the values instilled by team sports as being part of what makes you a better person, wouldn’t academics and athletics go hand-in-hand? Isn’t the whole point behind the notion of a student-athlete?[/quote]

I know that these are the common arguments but the mixing of sport and school through college doesn’t seem necessary. Only a small minority can be student-athletes and yet everyone else manages to learn how to live. Most those things you mention can an should be learned by children with or without sports. Memories are great. Having the privelege to make them in an academic enviornment as a young adult seems like a gift not a necessity.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]
I understand someone with a love of sports wanting to have the privelege of playing and having that be sponsored by the school. That said, I am not sure I see any overiding value in sports and schools going hand in hand to the degree that they do, at any level. Given the way things are, I wouldn’t let my opinions interfere with my kid’s,or any kid’s wishes to particpate either.[/quote]

Russell: What about the values instilled by team sports? Forgetting football, or basketball, or baseball for a second. What about crew? Wrestling? Field hockey?

I never played collegiate sports, but I did play high school sports (football, baseball and wrestling) and those memories are still with me today, along with the lessons I learned about adversity, teamwork and striving for goals. Part of the college experience is the various extracurricular activities you participate in, including sports. If you treat the values instilled by team sports as being part of what makes you a better person, wouldn’t academics and athletics go hand-in-hand? Isn’t the whole point behind the notion of a student-athlete?[/quote]

I know that these are the common arguments but the mixing of sport and school through college doesn’t seem necessary. Only a small minority can be student-athletes and yet everyone else manages to learn how to live. Most those things you mention can an should be learned by children with or without sports. Memories are great. Having the privelege to make them in an academic enviornment as a young adult seems like a gift not a necessity.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Russell]
I understand someone with a love of sports wanting to have the privelege of playing and having that be sponsored by the school. That said, I am not sure I see any overiding value in sports and schools going hand in hand to the degree that they do, at any level. Given the way things are, I wouldn’t let my opinions interfere with my kid’s,or any kid’s wishes to particpate either.[/quote]

Russell: What about the values instilled by team sports? Forgetting football, or basketball, or baseball for a second. What about crew? Wrestling? Field hockey?

I never played collegiate sports, but I did play high school sports (football, baseball and wrestling) and those memories are still with me today, along with the lessons I learned about adversity, teamwork and striving for goals. Part of the college experience is the various extracurricular activities you participate in, including sports. If you treat the values instilled by team sports as being part of what makes you a better person, wouldn’t academics and athletics go hand-in-hand? Isn’t the whole point behind the notion of a student-athlete?[/quote]

I know that these are the common arguments but the mixing of sport and school through college doesn’t seem necessary. Only a small minority can be student-athletes and yet everyone else manages to learn how to live. Most those things you mention can an should be learned by children with or without sports. Memories are great. Having the privelege to make them in an academic enviornment as a young adult seems like a gift not a necessity.

[scaredyclassic]

no. the mind and the body go together. schools have it all wrong. PE is not just one subject among many. PE should be 50% of the curriculum, 50% should be “academic” subjects. everyone should be in top physical condition when they leave high school. of course if we did this, academic grades would rise as well, because kids would be able to think. sports are not a luxury. PE is what effects most of your health and your life. We as a society ahve a very limited and dumb idea of what education and life preparation is.

[scaredyclassic]

no. the mind and the body go together. schools have it all wrong. PE is not just one subject among many. PE should be 50% of the curriculum, 50% should be “academic” subjects. everyone should be in top physical condition when they leave high school. of course if we did this, academic grades would rise as well, because kids would be able to think. sports are not a luxury. PE is what effects most of your health and your life. We as a society ahve a very limited and dumb idea of what education and life preparation is.

[scaredyclassic]

no. the mind and the body go together. schools have it all wrong. PE is not just one subject among many. PE should be 50% of the curriculum, 50% should be “academic” subjects. everyone should be in top physical condition when they leave high school. of course if we did this, academic grades would rise as well, because kids would be able to think. sports are not a luxury. PE is what effects most of your health and your life. We as a society ahve a very limited and dumb idea of what education and life preparation is.

[scaredyclassic]

no. the mind and the body go together. schools have it all wrong. PE is not just one subject among many. PE should be 50% of the curriculum, 50% should be “academic” subjects. everyone should be in top physical condition when they leave high school. of course if we did this, academic grades would rise as well, because kids would be able to think. sports are not a luxury. PE is what effects most of your health and your life. We as a society ahve a very limited and dumb idea of what education and life preparation is.

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