Home › Forums › Closed Forums › Properties or Areas › Opinions on Vail Ranch in Temecula
- This topic has 95 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated 15 years, 5 months ago by
temeculaguy.
-
AuthorPosts
-
May 16, 2009 at 2:57 PM #400837May 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM #400319
temeculaguy
Participantparamount, It’s just a different definition, I consider Rancho Cal as the dividing line or everything in 92592 it as being “south.” I guess I never broke out a “central” region, that’s why I refer to it as the temecula parway corridor, two miles either way from the parkway. I agree that wolf and rainbow deal with some added casino traffic but not so much as you move further out, it never bothered me when i lived in redhawk, however it kept me from ever looking seriously at wolf because it would require using pechanga parkway a lot. When I lived in redhawk i just didn’t go that way very much and never on a friday night.
As far a the schools, here are the scores
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2008GrthAPIdst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3375192&cChoice=2008GDst1
You are right, the schools you cited did very well, but the elems all do pretty well. All but one of the twenty elems are over 850, this year’s leader is actually in the far north, towards french valley, go figure. Those four schools you cited got between 900 and 910 (which is fantastic) but in the same area is sparkman 855 and vail 864 (I know it makes no sense but the elem on pauba road is called vail, while the elem in vail ranch is called pauba valley, I have no answer for this, they failed to consult me in advance, despite my self appointed title as the V.P. of common sense), morgan’s elem dropped from a 900 to 896, the vail ranch/redhwak elems got 875, 882 and 897.I’m not so sure if we aren’t splitting hairs here, but I don’t have kids in elem right now so I can’t say either way.
What is significant and confusing is the 40 point difference between high schools and the highest scoring elems are in the boundary for the lowest scoring high school, which defies logic (great oak’s 812 to tem valley’s 772, once again I’m not sure if that makes one all that much better than the other, is 39 pts on a 1000 scale a big deal?, probably not). I do know that most of the schools allow intra district transfers, there are usually 5 elems within 3 miles of anyone’s house, the high schools are only a couple miles apart so there may be some picking and choosing going on. Purely anecdotal, but my kids play various school sports and often i am asked to drive their friends home from practice or take them to or from a team party and very often the kids dont live within the h.s. boundary, I don’t ask questions as to why, so once again, I got nothing.
May 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM #401008Participantparamount, It’s just a different definition, I consider Rancho Cal as the dividing line or everything in 92592 it as being “south.” I guess I never broke out a “central” region, that’s why I refer to it as the temecula parway corridor, two miles either way from the parkway. I agree that wolf and rainbow deal with some added casino traffic but not so much as you move further out, it never bothered me when i lived in redhawk, however it kept me from ever looking seriously at wolf because it would require using pechanga parkway a lot. When I lived in redhawk i just didn’t go that way very much and never on a friday night.
As far a the schools, here are the scores
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2008GrthAPIdst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3375192&cChoice=2008GDst1
You are right, the schools you cited did very well, but the elems all do pretty well. All but one of the twenty elems are over 850, this year’s leader is actually in the far north, towards french valley, go figure. Those four schools you cited got between 900 and 910 (which is fantastic) but in the same area is sparkman 855 and vail 864 (I know it makes no sense but the elem on pauba road is called vail, while the elem in vail ranch is called pauba valley, I have no answer for this, they failed to consult me in advance, despite my self appointed title as the V.P. of common sense), morgan’s elem dropped from a 900 to 896, the vail ranch/redhwak elems got 875, 882 and 897.I’m not so sure if we aren’t splitting hairs here, but I don’t have kids in elem right now so I can’t say either way.
What is significant and confusing is the 40 point difference between high schools and the highest scoring elems are in the boundary for the lowest scoring high school, which defies logic (great oak’s 812 to tem valley’s 772, once again I’m not sure if that makes one all that much better than the other, is 39 pts on a 1000 scale a big deal?, probably not). I do know that most of the schools allow intra district transfers, there are usually 5 elems within 3 miles of anyone’s house, the high schools are only a couple miles apart so there may be some picking and choosing going on. Purely anecdotal, but my kids play various school sports and often i am asked to drive their friends home from practice or take them to or from a team party and very often the kids dont live within the h.s. boundary, I don’t ask questions as to why, so once again, I got nothing.
May 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM #400568Participantparamount, It’s just a different definition, I consider Rancho Cal as the dividing line or everything in 92592 it as being “south.” I guess I never broke out a “central” region, that’s why I refer to it as the temecula parway corridor, two miles either way from the parkway. I agree that wolf and rainbow deal with some added casino traffic but not so much as you move further out, it never bothered me when i lived in redhawk, however it kept me from ever looking seriously at wolf because it would require using pechanga parkway a lot. When I lived in redhawk i just didn’t go that way very much and never on a friday night.
As far a the schools, here are the scores
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2008GrthAPIdst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3375192&cChoice=2008GDst1
You are right, the schools you cited did very well, but the elems all do pretty well. All but one of the twenty elems are over 850, this year’s leader is actually in the far north, towards french valley, go figure. Those four schools you cited got between 900 and 910 (which is fantastic) but in the same area is sparkman 855 and vail 864 (I know it makes no sense but the elem on pauba road is called vail, while the elem in vail ranch is called pauba valley, I have no answer for this, they failed to consult me in advance, despite my self appointed title as the V.P. of common sense), morgan’s elem dropped from a 900 to 896, the vail ranch/redhwak elems got 875, 882 and 897.I’m not so sure if we aren’t splitting hairs here, but I don’t have kids in elem right now so I can’t say either way.
What is significant and confusing is the 40 point difference between high schools and the highest scoring elems are in the boundary for the lowest scoring high school, which defies logic (great oak’s 812 to tem valley’s 772, once again I’m not sure if that makes one all that much better than the other, is 39 pts on a 1000 scale a big deal?, probably not). I do know that most of the schools allow intra district transfers, there are usually 5 elems within 3 miles of anyone’s house, the high schools are only a couple miles apart so there may be some picking and choosing going on. Purely anecdotal, but my kids play various school sports and often i am asked to drive their friends home from practice or take them to or from a team party and very often the kids dont live within the h.s. boundary, I don’t ask questions as to why, so once again, I got nothing.
May 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM #400800Participantparamount, It’s just a different definition, I consider Rancho Cal as the dividing line or everything in 92592 it as being “south.” I guess I never broke out a “central” region, that’s why I refer to it as the temecula parway corridor, two miles either way from the parkway. I agree that wolf and rainbow deal with some added casino traffic but not so much as you move further out, it never bothered me when i lived in redhawk, however it kept me from ever looking seriously at wolf because it would require using pechanga parkway a lot. When I lived in redhawk i just didn’t go that way very much and never on a friday night.
As far a the schools, here are the scores
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2008GrthAPIdst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3375192&cChoice=2008GDst1
You are right, the schools you cited did very well, but the elems all do pretty well. All but one of the twenty elems are over 850, this year’s leader is actually in the far north, towards french valley, go figure. Those four schools you cited got between 900 and 910 (which is fantastic) but in the same area is sparkman 855 and vail 864 (I know it makes no sense but the elem on pauba road is called vail, while the elem in vail ranch is called pauba valley, I have no answer for this, they failed to consult me in advance, despite my self appointed title as the V.P. of common sense), morgan’s elem dropped from a 900 to 896, the vail ranch/redhwak elems got 875, 882 and 897.I’m not so sure if we aren’t splitting hairs here, but I don’t have kids in elem right now so I can’t say either way.
What is significant and confusing is the 40 point difference between high schools and the highest scoring elems are in the boundary for the lowest scoring high school, which defies logic (great oak’s 812 to tem valley’s 772, once again I’m not sure if that makes one all that much better than the other, is 39 pts on a 1000 scale a big deal?, probably not). I do know that most of the schools allow intra district transfers, there are usually 5 elems within 3 miles of anyone’s house, the high schools are only a couple miles apart so there may be some picking and choosing going on. Purely anecdotal, but my kids play various school sports and often i am asked to drive their friends home from practice or take them to or from a team party and very often the kids dont live within the h.s. boundary, I don’t ask questions as to why, so once again, I got nothing.
May 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM #400857Participantparamount, It’s just a different definition, I consider Rancho Cal as the dividing line or everything in 92592 it as being “south.” I guess I never broke out a “central” region, that’s why I refer to it as the temecula parway corridor, two miles either way from the parkway. I agree that wolf and rainbow deal with some added casino traffic but not so much as you move further out, it never bothered me when i lived in redhawk, however it kept me from ever looking seriously at wolf because it would require using pechanga parkway a lot. When I lived in redhawk i just didn’t go that way very much and never on a friday night.
As far a the schools, here are the scores
http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2008/2008GrthAPIdst.aspx?cYear=&allcds=3375192&cChoice=2008GDst1
You are right, the schools you cited did very well, but the elems all do pretty well. All but one of the twenty elems are over 850, this year’s leader is actually in the far north, towards french valley, go figure. Those four schools you cited got between 900 and 910 (which is fantastic) but in the same area is sparkman 855 and vail 864 (I know it makes no sense but the elem on pauba road is called vail, while the elem in vail ranch is called pauba valley, I have no answer for this, they failed to consult me in advance, despite my self appointed title as the V.P. of common sense), morgan’s elem dropped from a 900 to 896, the vail ranch/redhwak elems got 875, 882 and 897.I’m not so sure if we aren’t splitting hairs here, but I don’t have kids in elem right now so I can’t say either way.
What is significant and confusing is the 40 point difference between high schools and the highest scoring elems are in the boundary for the lowest scoring high school, which defies logic (great oak’s 812 to tem valley’s 772, once again I’m not sure if that makes one all that much better than the other, is 39 pts on a 1000 scale a big deal?, probably not). I do know that most of the schools allow intra district transfers, there are usually 5 elems within 3 miles of anyone’s house, the high schools are only a couple miles apart so there may be some picking and choosing going on. Purely anecdotal, but my kids play various school sports and often i am asked to drive their friends home from practice or take them to or from a team party and very often the kids dont live within the h.s. boundary, I don’t ask questions as to why, so once again, I got nothing.
May 16, 2009 at 9:53 PM #400825Participant[quote=HarryBosch][quote=paramount]The best primary schools are also in Central Temecula – Abbey Rinker, Crowne Hill and Paloma Elementary.
[/quote]And speaking of Elementary schools in Temecula I heard a rumor that Sparkman Elementary, off of Margarita and Temecula Parkway behind Albertson, will not be opening in the Fall. That should help to increase the value of the homes surrounding Abbey Rinker, Crowne, Paloma and Tony Tobin.
Too bad for the people who live near Sparkman Elementary. I expect their house values to decline somewhat.[/quote]
The rumor is true, they were going to close more, they just have too many schools, they make the delopers pay to build them but as the kids get older in a neighborhood, they aren’t as full, so they took a few 75% full schools and consolodated them to cut down on secretaires, principals, janitors, etc. as a way of closing the budget gap. I don’t know if it will hurt the houses nearby that much because there are other schools in walking distance and that one wasn’t in the middle of a neighborhood like the others are, it was at the edge of the residential area, next to commercial stuff and a busy road. Plus the hospital is supposed to be built accross the street, they may do well just selling the land in the future if they don’t ever need it.
It’s a difficult task to plan schools, when a development springs up, everyone has little kids. over time, less and less are little, people don’t always move away just because their kids grew up. I go jogging on a 5 mile round trip and I go by 4 elementary schools, that’s just silly. The trap for someone living nearby, is what will it become down the road when it’s not opened back up? Certain uses can have a negative effect on prices, but these are some of the biggest nimbys in the world so I dont ever worry that much, some of these local folks passionately fight hospital and church construction, so someone wanting to open a drug treatment center or something is in for a big suprise. I’ve given up my dream that we get a strip club someday.
May 16, 2009 at 9:53 PM #400883Participant[quote=HarryBosch][quote=paramount]The best primary schools are also in Central Temecula – Abbey Rinker, Crowne Hill and Paloma Elementary.
[/quote]And speaking of Elementary schools in Temecula I heard a rumor that Sparkman Elementary, off of Margarita and Temecula Parkway behind Albertson, will not be opening in the Fall. That should help to increase the value of the homes surrounding Abbey Rinker, Crowne, Paloma and Tony Tobin.
Too bad for the people who live near Sparkman Elementary. I expect their house values to decline somewhat.[/quote]
The rumor is true, they were going to close more, they just have too many schools, they make the delopers pay to build them but as the kids get older in a neighborhood, they aren’t as full, so they took a few 75% full schools and consolodated them to cut down on secretaires, principals, janitors, etc. as a way of closing the budget gap. I don’t know if it will hurt the houses nearby that much because there are other schools in walking distance and that one wasn’t in the middle of a neighborhood like the others are, it was at the edge of the residential area, next to commercial stuff and a busy road. Plus the hospital is supposed to be built accross the street, they may do well just selling the land in the future if they don’t ever need it.
It’s a difficult task to plan schools, when a development springs up, everyone has little kids. over time, less and less are little, people don’t always move away just because their kids grew up. I go jogging on a 5 mile round trip and I go by 4 elementary schools, that’s just silly. The trap for someone living nearby, is what will it become down the road when it’s not opened back up? Certain uses can have a negative effect on prices, but these are some of the biggest nimbys in the world so I dont ever worry that much, some of these local folks passionately fight hospital and church construction, so someone wanting to open a drug treatment center or something is in for a big suprise. I’ve given up my dream that we get a strip club someday.
May 16, 2009 at 9:53 PM #401032Participant[quote=HarryBosch][quote=paramount]The best primary schools are also in Central Temecula – Abbey Rinker, Crowne Hill and Paloma Elementary.
[/quote]And speaking of Elementary schools in Temecula I heard a rumor that Sparkman Elementary, off of Margarita and Temecula Parkway behind Albertson, will not be opening in the Fall. That should help to increase the value of the homes surrounding Abbey Rinker, Crowne, Paloma and Tony Tobin.
Too bad for the people who live near Sparkman Elementary. I expect their house values to decline somewhat.[/quote]
The rumor is true, they were going to close more, they just have too many schools, they make the delopers pay to build them but as the kids get older in a neighborhood, they aren’t as full, so they took a few 75% full schools and consolodated them to cut down on secretaires, principals, janitors, etc. as a way of closing the budget gap. I don’t know if it will hurt the houses nearby that much because there are other schools in walking distance and that one wasn’t in the middle of a neighborhood like the others are, it was at the edge of the residential area, next to commercial stuff and a busy road. Plus the hospital is supposed to be built accross the street, they may do well just selling the land in the future if they don’t ever need it.
It’s a difficult task to plan schools, when a development springs up, everyone has little kids. over time, less and less are little, people don’t always move away just because their kids grew up. I go jogging on a 5 mile round trip and I go by 4 elementary schools, that’s just silly. The trap for someone living nearby, is what will it become down the road when it’s not opened back up? Certain uses can have a negative effect on prices, but these are some of the biggest nimbys in the world so I dont ever worry that much, some of these local folks passionately fight hospital and church construction, so someone wanting to open a drug treatment center or something is in for a big suprise. I’ve given up my dream that we get a strip club someday.
May 16, 2009 at 9:53 PM #400344Participant[quote=HarryBosch][quote=paramount]The best primary schools are also in Central Temecula – Abbey Rinker, Crowne Hill and Paloma Elementary.
[/quote]And speaking of Elementary schools in Temecula I heard a rumor that Sparkman Elementary, off of Margarita and Temecula Parkway behind Albertson, will not be opening in the Fall. That should help to increase the value of the homes surrounding Abbey Rinker, Crowne, Paloma and Tony Tobin.
Too bad for the people who live near Sparkman Elementary. I expect their house values to decline somewhat.[/quote]
The rumor is true, they were going to close more, they just have too many schools, they make the delopers pay to build them but as the kids get older in a neighborhood, they aren’t as full, so they took a few 75% full schools and consolodated them to cut down on secretaires, principals, janitors, etc. as a way of closing the budget gap. I don’t know if it will hurt the houses nearby that much because there are other schools in walking distance and that one wasn’t in the middle of a neighborhood like the others are, it was at the edge of the residential area, next to commercial stuff and a busy road. Plus the hospital is supposed to be built accross the street, they may do well just selling the land in the future if they don’t ever need it.
It’s a difficult task to plan schools, when a development springs up, everyone has little kids. over time, less and less are little, people don’t always move away just because their kids grew up. I go jogging on a 5 mile round trip and I go by 4 elementary schools, that’s just silly. The trap for someone living nearby, is what will it become down the road when it’s not opened back up? Certain uses can have a negative effect on prices, but these are some of the biggest nimbys in the world so I dont ever worry that much, some of these local folks passionately fight hospital and church construction, so someone wanting to open a drug treatment center or something is in for a big suprise. I’ve given up my dream that we get a strip club someday.
May 16, 2009 at 9:53 PM #400592Participant[quote=HarryBosch][quote=paramount]The best primary schools are also in Central Temecula – Abbey Rinker, Crowne Hill and Paloma Elementary.
[/quote]And speaking of Elementary schools in Temecula I heard a rumor that Sparkman Elementary, off of Margarita and Temecula Parkway behind Albertson, will not be opening in the Fall. That should help to increase the value of the homes surrounding Abbey Rinker, Crowne, Paloma and Tony Tobin.
Too bad for the people who live near Sparkman Elementary. I expect their house values to decline somewhat.[/quote]
The rumor is true, they were going to close more, they just have too many schools, they make the delopers pay to build them but as the kids get older in a neighborhood, they aren’t as full, so they took a few 75% full schools and consolodated them to cut down on secretaires, principals, janitors, etc. as a way of closing the budget gap. I don’t know if it will hurt the houses nearby that much because there are other schools in walking distance and that one wasn’t in the middle of a neighborhood like the others are, it was at the edge of the residential area, next to commercial stuff and a busy road. Plus the hospital is supposed to be built accross the street, they may do well just selling the land in the future if they don’t ever need it.
It’s a difficult task to plan schools, when a development springs up, everyone has little kids. over time, less and less are little, people don’t always move away just because their kids grew up. I go jogging on a 5 mile round trip and I go by 4 elementary schools, that’s just silly. The trap for someone living nearby, is what will it become down the road when it’s not opened back up? Certain uses can have a negative effect on prices, but these are some of the biggest nimbys in the world so I dont ever worry that much, some of these local folks passionately fight hospital and church construction, so someone wanting to open a drug treatment center or something is in for a big suprise. I’ve given up my dream that we get a strip club someday.
May 17, 2009 at 12:28 AM #400390paramount
ParticipantInterestingly, if you recall about 4 years ago there was a drug treatment center just to the south of Sparkman. It has since been torn down.
May 17, 2009 at 12:28 AM #400871ParticipantInterestingly, if you recall about 4 years ago there was a drug treatment center just to the south of Sparkman. It has since been torn down.
May 17, 2009 at 12:28 AM #400930ParticipantInterestingly, if you recall about 4 years ago there was a drug treatment center just to the south of Sparkman. It has since been torn down.
May 17, 2009 at 12:28 AM #401079ParticipantInterestingly, if you recall about 4 years ago there was a drug treatment center just to the south of Sparkman. It has since been torn down.
-
AuthorPosts
- The forum ‘Properties or Areas’ is closed to new topics and replies.