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August 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM #443564August 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM #442798murf2222Participant
[quote=HLS][quote=UCGal]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?
August 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM #442993murf2222Participant[quote=HLS][quote=UCGal]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?
August 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM #443331murf2222Participant[quote=HLS][quote=UCGal]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?
August 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM #443400murf2222Participant[quote=HLS][quote=UCGal]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?
August 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM #443579murf2222Participant[quote=HLS][quote=UCGal]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?
August 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM #442803UCGalParticipant[quote=murf2222][quote=HLS]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?[/quote]
I think he’s saying he gets a fee with both rates – but if he were to push a buyer into a 5.5% – he’d also get a commission… But, having worked with him, he doesn’t do that type of thing.
August 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM #442998UCGalParticipant[quote=murf2222][quote=HLS]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?[/quote]
I think he’s saying he gets a fee with both rates – but if he were to push a buyer into a 5.5% – he’d also get a commission… But, having worked with him, he doesn’t do that type of thing.
August 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM #443336UCGalParticipant[quote=murf2222][quote=HLS]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?[/quote]
I think he’s saying he gets a fee with both rates – but if he were to push a buyer into a 5.5% – he’d also get a commission… But, having worked with him, he doesn’t do that type of thing.
August 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM #443405UCGalParticipant[quote=murf2222][quote=HLS]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?[/quote]
I think he’s saying he gets a fee with both rates – but if he were to push a buyer into a 5.5% – he’d also get a commission… But, having worked with him, he doesn’t do that type of thing.
August 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM #443584UCGalParticipant[quote=murf2222][quote=HLS]
This week, the national average rates are about 5.50%… I have 5.00% rate that comes with a fee.
At 5.50% I could get a commission but it’s not in the borrower’s best interest if they plan on staying in the loan for a few years..
[/quote]I’m a little confused HLS. Are you saying that the current rate is HIGHER than 5.50% if you don’t get a commission?[/quote]
I think he’s saying he gets a fee with both rates – but if he were to push a buyer into a 5.5% – he’d also get a commission… But, having worked with him, he doesn’t do that type of thing.
August 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM #442808HLSParticipantMurf..
At 5.50% NO fee is charged because the lender will pay…..
5.50% pays a commission. 5.00% does not
This weeks “average” rates were 5.50%
The point is that a lower rate is really available, but it comes with an upfront cost.
(Rates change daily)Putting a borrower into the higher rate gets a commission from the lender. The higher the rate the higher the commission. It’s a reward from the lender for screwing a borrower. (Not what I do)
If kept for many years, the borrower will pay thousands of dollars more in the long run.The alternative is paying a fee up front and getting a lower rate/lower payment. It’s a detailed explanation that most ppl don’t understand, including those pushing loans.
There is no such thing as a “no cost” loan. IF there is no cost up front, it will cost a fortune in the long run. Usually the break even point is 2-3 years. Depends on individual circumstances.
I hope this makes sense.
August 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM #443003HLSParticipantMurf..
At 5.50% NO fee is charged because the lender will pay…..
5.50% pays a commission. 5.00% does not
This weeks “average” rates were 5.50%
The point is that a lower rate is really available, but it comes with an upfront cost.
(Rates change daily)Putting a borrower into the higher rate gets a commission from the lender. The higher the rate the higher the commission. It’s a reward from the lender for screwing a borrower. (Not what I do)
If kept for many years, the borrower will pay thousands of dollars more in the long run.The alternative is paying a fee up front and getting a lower rate/lower payment. It’s a detailed explanation that most ppl don’t understand, including those pushing loans.
There is no such thing as a “no cost” loan. IF there is no cost up front, it will cost a fortune in the long run. Usually the break even point is 2-3 years. Depends on individual circumstances.
I hope this makes sense.
August 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM #443341HLSParticipantMurf..
At 5.50% NO fee is charged because the lender will pay…..
5.50% pays a commission. 5.00% does not
This weeks “average” rates were 5.50%
The point is that a lower rate is really available, but it comes with an upfront cost.
(Rates change daily)Putting a borrower into the higher rate gets a commission from the lender. The higher the rate the higher the commission. It’s a reward from the lender for screwing a borrower. (Not what I do)
If kept for many years, the borrower will pay thousands of dollars more in the long run.The alternative is paying a fee up front and getting a lower rate/lower payment. It’s a detailed explanation that most ppl don’t understand, including those pushing loans.
There is no such thing as a “no cost” loan. IF there is no cost up front, it will cost a fortune in the long run. Usually the break even point is 2-3 years. Depends on individual circumstances.
I hope this makes sense.
August 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM #443410HLSParticipantMurf..
At 5.50% NO fee is charged because the lender will pay…..
5.50% pays a commission. 5.00% does not
This weeks “average” rates were 5.50%
The point is that a lower rate is really available, but it comes with an upfront cost.
(Rates change daily)Putting a borrower into the higher rate gets a commission from the lender. The higher the rate the higher the commission. It’s a reward from the lender for screwing a borrower. (Not what I do)
If kept for many years, the borrower will pay thousands of dollars more in the long run.The alternative is paying a fee up front and getting a lower rate/lower payment. It’s a detailed explanation that most ppl don’t understand, including those pushing loans.
There is no such thing as a “no cost” loan. IF there is no cost up front, it will cost a fortune in the long run. Usually the break even point is 2-3 years. Depends on individual circumstances.
I hope this makes sense.
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