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February 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM #161466February 27, 2008 at 10:48 PM #161773Deal HunterParticipant
The government is trying to send out Fannie and Freddie in the same way they were deployed back in the Great Depression – the last time credit siezed up this badly. It won’t work this time.
My usual response to the question, “how will the credit markets go back to normal?” is HIGHLY cyncial (so beware):
Massive, drastic and massively drastic tax reform. Most notable features of the tax reform is eliminiation of capital gains tax, privitazaion of social security, abolishment of the estate tax and limitation of mortgage interest deduction to mortgages under the national median home price (sorry CA, Fl, & NY).A series of booms (including another housing boom) will follow this degree of tax reform as the tax burden is lifted from business and investments and summarily dumped on the shoulders of wage earners and their descendants. Everyone will rejoice and dance in the fields and quickly forget the stresses of 2007-2008. Everything will be wonderful, until that fateful day when the very first barrel of crude is sold with Euro.
February 27, 2008 at 10:48 PM #161874Deal HunterParticipantThe government is trying to send out Fannie and Freddie in the same way they were deployed back in the Great Depression – the last time credit siezed up this badly. It won’t work this time.
My usual response to the question, “how will the credit markets go back to normal?” is HIGHLY cyncial (so beware):
Massive, drastic and massively drastic tax reform. Most notable features of the tax reform is eliminiation of capital gains tax, privitazaion of social security, abolishment of the estate tax and limitation of mortgage interest deduction to mortgages under the national median home price (sorry CA, Fl, & NY).A series of booms (including another housing boom) will follow this degree of tax reform as the tax burden is lifted from business and investments and summarily dumped on the shoulders of wage earners and their descendants. Everyone will rejoice and dance in the fields and quickly forget the stresses of 2007-2008. Everything will be wonderful, until that fateful day when the very first barrel of crude is sold with Euro.
February 27, 2008 at 10:48 PM #161786Deal HunterParticipantThe government is trying to send out Fannie and Freddie in the same way they were deployed back in the Great Depression – the last time credit siezed up this badly. It won’t work this time.
My usual response to the question, “how will the credit markets go back to normal?” is HIGHLY cyncial (so beware):
Massive, drastic and massively drastic tax reform. Most notable features of the tax reform is eliminiation of capital gains tax, privitazaion of social security, abolishment of the estate tax and limitation of mortgage interest deduction to mortgages under the national median home price (sorry CA, Fl, & NY).A series of booms (including another housing boom) will follow this degree of tax reform as the tax burden is lifted from business and investments and summarily dumped on the shoulders of wage earners and their descendants. Everyone will rejoice and dance in the fields and quickly forget the stresses of 2007-2008. Everything will be wonderful, until that fateful day when the very first barrel of crude is sold with Euro.
February 27, 2008 at 10:48 PM #161476Deal HunterParticipantThe government is trying to send out Fannie and Freddie in the same way they were deployed back in the Great Depression – the last time credit siezed up this badly. It won’t work this time.
My usual response to the question, “how will the credit markets go back to normal?” is HIGHLY cyncial (so beware):
Massive, drastic and massively drastic tax reform. Most notable features of the tax reform is eliminiation of capital gains tax, privitazaion of social security, abolishment of the estate tax and limitation of mortgage interest deduction to mortgages under the national median home price (sorry CA, Fl, & NY).A series of booms (including another housing boom) will follow this degree of tax reform as the tax burden is lifted from business and investments and summarily dumped on the shoulders of wage earners and their descendants. Everyone will rejoice and dance in the fields and quickly forget the stresses of 2007-2008. Everything will be wonderful, until that fateful day when the very first barrel of crude is sold with Euro.
February 27, 2008 at 10:48 PM #161805Deal HunterParticipantThe government is trying to send out Fannie and Freddie in the same way they were deployed back in the Great Depression – the last time credit siezed up this badly. It won’t work this time.
My usual response to the question, “how will the credit markets go back to normal?” is HIGHLY cyncial (so beware):
Massive, drastic and massively drastic tax reform. Most notable features of the tax reform is eliminiation of capital gains tax, privitazaion of social security, abolishment of the estate tax and limitation of mortgage interest deduction to mortgages under the national median home price (sorry CA, Fl, & NY).A series of booms (including another housing boom) will follow this degree of tax reform as the tax burden is lifted from business and investments and summarily dumped on the shoulders of wage earners and their descendants. Everyone will rejoice and dance in the fields and quickly forget the stresses of 2007-2008. Everything will be wonderful, until that fateful day when the very first barrel of crude is sold with Euro.
February 27, 2008 at 11:02 PM #161810patientrenterParticipantDeal Hunter, how did you conclude that the most likely outcome of all this is a massive victory for hard-core Republican political goals? I don’t care about the politics, but I can see that the Republican party’s agenda is near-dead. In November, no one thinks that either the House or Senate will go Republican. The only question is whether the character of the Republican candidate can overcome the political groundswell in favor of the Democrat agenda.
The long-term outcome of this still-emerging massive bail-out will be the same as for every other temporary expansion of government in the last 100 years – a permament expansion. From now on, home prices will be determined directly by the Federal govt’s finger on the money spigots. When next prices go down after this little event, they will have lots of new spigots to open.
Patient renter in OC
February 27, 2008 at 11:02 PM #161879patientrenterParticipantDeal Hunter, how did you conclude that the most likely outcome of all this is a massive victory for hard-core Republican political goals? I don’t care about the politics, but I can see that the Republican party’s agenda is near-dead. In November, no one thinks that either the House or Senate will go Republican. The only question is whether the character of the Republican candidate can overcome the political groundswell in favor of the Democrat agenda.
The long-term outcome of this still-emerging massive bail-out will be the same as for every other temporary expansion of government in the last 100 years – a permament expansion. From now on, home prices will be determined directly by the Federal govt’s finger on the money spigots. When next prices go down after this little event, they will have lots of new spigots to open.
Patient renter in OC
February 27, 2008 at 11:02 PM #161480patientrenterParticipantDeal Hunter, how did you conclude that the most likely outcome of all this is a massive victory for hard-core Republican political goals? I don’t care about the politics, but I can see that the Republican party’s agenda is near-dead. In November, no one thinks that either the House or Senate will go Republican. The only question is whether the character of the Republican candidate can overcome the political groundswell in favor of the Democrat agenda.
The long-term outcome of this still-emerging massive bail-out will be the same as for every other temporary expansion of government in the last 100 years – a permament expansion. From now on, home prices will be determined directly by the Federal govt’s finger on the money spigots. When next prices go down after this little event, they will have lots of new spigots to open.
Patient renter in OC
February 27, 2008 at 11:02 PM #161791patientrenterParticipantDeal Hunter, how did you conclude that the most likely outcome of all this is a massive victory for hard-core Republican political goals? I don’t care about the politics, but I can see that the Republican party’s agenda is near-dead. In November, no one thinks that either the House or Senate will go Republican. The only question is whether the character of the Republican candidate can overcome the political groundswell in favor of the Democrat agenda.
The long-term outcome of this still-emerging massive bail-out will be the same as for every other temporary expansion of government in the last 100 years – a permament expansion. From now on, home prices will be determined directly by the Federal govt’s finger on the money spigots. When next prices go down after this little event, they will have lots of new spigots to open.
Patient renter in OC
February 27, 2008 at 11:02 PM #161778patientrenterParticipantDeal Hunter, how did you conclude that the most likely outcome of all this is a massive victory for hard-core Republican political goals? I don’t care about the politics, but I can see that the Republican party’s agenda is near-dead. In November, no one thinks that either the House or Senate will go Republican. The only question is whether the character of the Republican candidate can overcome the political groundswell in favor of the Democrat agenda.
The long-term outcome of this still-emerging massive bail-out will be the same as for every other temporary expansion of government in the last 100 years – a permament expansion. From now on, home prices will be determined directly by the Federal govt’s finger on the money spigots. When next prices go down after this little event, they will have lots of new spigots to open.
Patient renter in OC
February 27, 2008 at 11:25 PM #161496Deal HunterParticipantBecause when you look closely enough there is NO difference between Republicans and Democrats.
The rhetoric of privitization is hallmark Republican, but the mechanism of privitization can be easily worked into a Democratic agenda. Same goes for elimination or limitation of mortgage interest deduction. Can you see a Democratic congress or president twisting mortgage interest reform as a way to “take from the rich and give to the poor?” Yep, piece of cake.
And other anomalies like, “Wall Street loves Clinton (both Bill and Hill).” Or, why do “free-market, Reagan/Goldwater Republicans” tolerate the existence of the Federal Reserve?
Again, pardon my extreme cynicism, but I did warn you.
February 27, 2008 at 11:25 PM #161806Deal HunterParticipantBecause when you look closely enough there is NO difference between Republicans and Democrats.
The rhetoric of privitization is hallmark Republican, but the mechanism of privitization can be easily worked into a Democratic agenda. Same goes for elimination or limitation of mortgage interest deduction. Can you see a Democratic congress or president twisting mortgage interest reform as a way to “take from the rich and give to the poor?” Yep, piece of cake.
And other anomalies like, “Wall Street loves Clinton (both Bill and Hill).” Or, why do “free-market, Reagan/Goldwater Republicans” tolerate the existence of the Federal Reserve?
Again, pardon my extreme cynicism, but I did warn you.
February 27, 2008 at 11:25 PM #161793Deal HunterParticipantBecause when you look closely enough there is NO difference between Republicans and Democrats.
The rhetoric of privitization is hallmark Republican, but the mechanism of privitization can be easily worked into a Democratic agenda. Same goes for elimination or limitation of mortgage interest deduction. Can you see a Democratic congress or president twisting mortgage interest reform as a way to “take from the rich and give to the poor?” Yep, piece of cake.
And other anomalies like, “Wall Street loves Clinton (both Bill and Hill).” Or, why do “free-market, Reagan/Goldwater Republicans” tolerate the existence of the Federal Reserve?
Again, pardon my extreme cynicism, but I did warn you.
February 27, 2008 at 11:25 PM #161825Deal HunterParticipantBecause when you look closely enough there is NO difference between Republicans and Democrats.
The rhetoric of privitization is hallmark Republican, but the mechanism of privitization can be easily worked into a Democratic agenda. Same goes for elimination or limitation of mortgage interest deduction. Can you see a Democratic congress or president twisting mortgage interest reform as a way to “take from the rich and give to the poor?” Yep, piece of cake.
And other anomalies like, “Wall Street loves Clinton (both Bill and Hill).” Or, why do “free-market, Reagan/Goldwater Republicans” tolerate the existence of the Federal Reserve?
Again, pardon my extreme cynicism, but I did warn you.
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