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February 10, 2011 at 2:23 PM #665080February 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM #665573AnonymousGuest
The inflation numbers have to be bogus. He claims that inflation has been well above 5%, averaging around 7-8%, or so, since 1988.
This would mean that most prices today would be about five times what they were in ’88.
At that rate, a typical midsize car (Accord/Camry) that cost $15K in ’88 would cost about $75K today.
The componding nature of inflation exposes his bias, as well as some of his reasoning:
Getting more into the hedonics area, I’ll get personal. I use two personal computer systems purchased about 10 years apart for roughly the same price in nominal terms, about $800. While the most recent computer has greater memory and is faster than my old system, both systems generally perform the same tasks for me. Based on the BLS’s adjustments to computer prices, in terms of quality/hedonics, my old system should have been replaceable for about $85.00 in current dollars, which was not doable. I do have a nicer picture screen, with the new system, but I also unexpectedly had to buy a new printer, because the new system was not able to function with my antique work-horse printer. The new computer also was not able to use certain key programs that had not been rewritten to the standards of the new [sic?] system. How does one compare and value such systems in the CPI? While some quality adjustment in the case of computers seems appropriate, I argue it has been heavily overdone from the practical standpoint of the average consumer.
Apparently the guy has never heard of eBay, and feels he should never have to replace his rotary phone.
February 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM #665237AnonymousGuestThe inflation numbers have to be bogus. He claims that inflation has been well above 5%, averaging around 7-8%, or so, since 1988.
This would mean that most prices today would be about five times what they were in ’88.
At that rate, a typical midsize car (Accord/Camry) that cost $15K in ’88 would cost about $75K today.
The componding nature of inflation exposes his bias, as well as some of his reasoning:
Getting more into the hedonics area, I’ll get personal. I use two personal computer systems purchased about 10 years apart for roughly the same price in nominal terms, about $800. While the most recent computer has greater memory and is faster than my old system, both systems generally perform the same tasks for me. Based on the BLS’s adjustments to computer prices, in terms of quality/hedonics, my old system should have been replaceable for about $85.00 in current dollars, which was not doable. I do have a nicer picture screen, with the new system, but I also unexpectedly had to buy a new printer, because the new system was not able to function with my antique work-horse printer. The new computer also was not able to use certain key programs that had not been rewritten to the standards of the new [sic?] system. How does one compare and value such systems in the CPI? While some quality adjustment in the case of computers seems appropriate, I argue it has been heavily overdone from the practical standpoint of the average consumer.
Apparently the guy has never heard of eBay, and feels he should never have to replace his rotary phone.
February 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM #665100AnonymousGuestThe inflation numbers have to be bogus. He claims that inflation has been well above 5%, averaging around 7-8%, or so, since 1988.
This would mean that most prices today would be about five times what they were in ’88.
At that rate, a typical midsize car (Accord/Camry) that cost $15K in ’88 would cost about $75K today.
The componding nature of inflation exposes his bias, as well as some of his reasoning:
Getting more into the hedonics area, I’ll get personal. I use two personal computer systems purchased about 10 years apart for roughly the same price in nominal terms, about $800. While the most recent computer has greater memory and is faster than my old system, both systems generally perform the same tasks for me. Based on the BLS’s adjustments to computer prices, in terms of quality/hedonics, my old system should have been replaceable for about $85.00 in current dollars, which was not doable. I do have a nicer picture screen, with the new system, but I also unexpectedly had to buy a new printer, because the new system was not able to function with my antique work-horse printer. The new computer also was not able to use certain key programs that had not been rewritten to the standards of the new [sic?] system. How does one compare and value such systems in the CPI? While some quality adjustment in the case of computers seems appropriate, I argue it has been heavily overdone from the practical standpoint of the average consumer.
Apparently the guy has never heard of eBay, and feels he should never have to replace his rotary phone.
February 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM #664434AnonymousGuestThe inflation numbers have to be bogus. He claims that inflation has been well above 5%, averaging around 7-8%, or so, since 1988.
This would mean that most prices today would be about five times what they were in ’88.
At that rate, a typical midsize car (Accord/Camry) that cost $15K in ’88 would cost about $75K today.
The componding nature of inflation exposes his bias, as well as some of his reasoning:
Getting more into the hedonics area, I’ll get personal. I use two personal computer systems purchased about 10 years apart for roughly the same price in nominal terms, about $800. While the most recent computer has greater memory and is faster than my old system, both systems generally perform the same tasks for me. Based on the BLS’s adjustments to computer prices, in terms of quality/hedonics, my old system should have been replaceable for about $85.00 in current dollars, which was not doable. I do have a nicer picture screen, with the new system, but I also unexpectedly had to buy a new printer, because the new system was not able to function with my antique work-horse printer. The new computer also was not able to use certain key programs that had not been rewritten to the standards of the new [sic?] system. How does one compare and value such systems in the CPI? While some quality adjustment in the case of computers seems appropriate, I argue it has been heavily overdone from the practical standpoint of the average consumer.
Apparently the guy has never heard of eBay, and feels he should never have to replace his rotary phone.
February 10, 2011 at 2:45 PM #664496AnonymousGuestThe inflation numbers have to be bogus. He claims that inflation has been well above 5%, averaging around 7-8%, or so, since 1988.
This would mean that most prices today would be about five times what they were in ’88.
At that rate, a typical midsize car (Accord/Camry) that cost $15K in ’88 would cost about $75K today.
The componding nature of inflation exposes his bias, as well as some of his reasoning:
Getting more into the hedonics area, I’ll get personal. I use two personal computer systems purchased about 10 years apart for roughly the same price in nominal terms, about $800. While the most recent computer has greater memory and is faster than my old system, both systems generally perform the same tasks for me. Based on the BLS’s adjustments to computer prices, in terms of quality/hedonics, my old system should have been replaceable for about $85.00 in current dollars, which was not doable. I do have a nicer picture screen, with the new system, but I also unexpectedly had to buy a new printer, because the new system was not able to function with my antique work-horse printer. The new computer also was not able to use certain key programs that had not been rewritten to the standards of the new [sic?] system. How does one compare and value such systems in the CPI? While some quality adjustment in the case of computers seems appropriate, I argue it has been heavily overdone from the practical standpoint of the average consumer.
Apparently the guy has never heard of eBay, and feels he should never have to replace his rotary phone.
February 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM #665578Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=permabear]Have you read this? http://www.shadowstats.com/article/special-comment%5B/quote%5D
No… does it address the specific issue I raised above?
February 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM #664439Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=permabear]Have you read this? http://www.shadowstats.com/article/special-comment%5B/quote%5D
No… does it address the specific issue I raised above?
February 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM #665105Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=permabear]Have you read this? http://www.shadowstats.com/article/special-comment%5B/quote%5D
No… does it address the specific issue I raised above?
February 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM #664501Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=permabear]Have you read this? http://www.shadowstats.com/article/special-comment%5B/quote%5D
No… does it address the specific issue I raised above?
February 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM #665242Rich ToscanoKeymaster[quote=permabear]Have you read this? http://www.shadowstats.com/article/special-comment%5B/quote%5D
No… does it address the specific issue I raised above?
February 10, 2011 at 6:14 PM #665608moneymakerParticipantIf inflation is 6% in China and we import just about everything we buy @ the store from China then what is the “real” rate of inflation. Sure you can use “shrinkage” or lower the quality of a product to keep the price the same, but how long can that mentality be maintained?
February 10, 2011 at 6:14 PM #665135moneymakerParticipantIf inflation is 6% in China and we import just about everything we buy @ the store from China then what is the “real” rate of inflation. Sure you can use “shrinkage” or lower the quality of a product to keep the price the same, but how long can that mentality be maintained?
February 10, 2011 at 6:14 PM #664531moneymakerParticipantIf inflation is 6% in China and we import just about everything we buy @ the store from China then what is the “real” rate of inflation. Sure you can use “shrinkage” or lower the quality of a product to keep the price the same, but how long can that mentality be maintained?
February 10, 2011 at 6:14 PM #665271moneymakerParticipantIf inflation is 6% in China and we import just about everything we buy @ the store from China then what is the “real” rate of inflation. Sure you can use “shrinkage” or lower the quality of a product to keep the price the same, but how long can that mentality be maintained?
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