Idiot SUV owners have trouble selling

[sd_matt]

Here’s a pretty good blog about energy and technology development.

http://nextbigfuture.com/

Look on the left and scroll down and you will see categories, nanotech, fusion solar ect.

[meadandale]

you don’t need to hug trees to know that big cars pollute more and oil is running out. If you are so conscious about other environmental contributions, then why not take it one step further.

You know, you environmentalist types would have more credibility if you didn’t speak in half truths all the time.

Yes, big cars pollute more. However oil is NOT running out. There is plenty of oil in the ground that we refuse to drill for. We’d rather fight wars in the desert than drill off the coast.

However, I do agree that it would be nice if we had a coherent and forward thinking energy policy in this country that weaned us off of unrenewable energy sources.

However, for all of you Bush Bashers/Haters who desperately want a Democrat in office let me ask you: what exactly did Billary do about energy policy during their 8 years in office and why do you expect that another 4 or 8 years will be any different?

Hell, even Mr Global Warming himself did next to nothing during his 8 years as Vice President about energy policy.

But I digress.

Unfortunately, I can’t afford payments on two cars and as I stated above, I actually NEED a truck for…you know…truck stuff. However, if you are so concerned about the pending global cataclysm feel free to buy me a hybrid.

In the meantime, I’ll drive less and telecommute more.

[meadandale]

you don’t need to hug trees to know that big cars pollute more and oil is running out. If you are so conscious about other environmental contributions, then why not take it one step further.

You know, you environmentalist types would have more credibility if you didn’t speak in half truths all the time.

Yes, big cars pollute more. However oil is NOT running out. There is plenty of oil in the ground that we refuse to drill for. We’d rather fight wars in the desert than drill off the coast.

However, I do agree that it would be nice if we had a coherent and forward thinking energy policy in this country that weaned us off of unrenewable energy sources.

However, for all of you Bush Bashers/Haters who desperately want a Democrat in office let me ask you: what exactly did Billary do about energy policy during their 8 years in office and why do you expect that another 4 or 8 years will be any different?

Hell, even Mr Global Warming himself did next to nothing during his 8 years as Vice President about energy policy.

But I digress.

Unfortunately, I can’t afford payments on two cars and as I stated above, I actually NEED a truck for…you know…truck stuff. However, if you are so concerned about the pending global cataclysm feel free to buy me a hybrid.

In the meantime, I’ll drive less and telecommute more.

[meadandale]

you don’t need to hug trees to know that big cars pollute more and oil is running out. If you are so conscious about other environmental contributions, then why not take it one step further.

You know, you environmentalist types would have more credibility if you didn’t speak in half truths all the time.

Yes, big cars pollute more. However oil is NOT running out. There is plenty of oil in the ground that we refuse to drill for. We’d rather fight wars in the desert than drill off the coast.

However, I do agree that it would be nice if we had a coherent and forward thinking energy policy in this country that weaned us off of unrenewable energy sources.

However, for all of you Bush Bashers/Haters who desperately want a Democrat in office let me ask you: what exactly did Billary do about energy policy during their 8 years in office and why do you expect that another 4 or 8 years will be any different?

Hell, even Mr Global Warming himself did next to nothing during his 8 years as Vice President about energy policy.

But I digress.

Unfortunately, I can’t afford payments on two cars and as I stated above, I actually NEED a truck for…you know…truck stuff. However, if you are so concerned about the pending global cataclysm feel free to buy me a hybrid.

In the meantime, I’ll drive less and telecommute more.

[meadandale]

you don’t need to hug trees to know that big cars pollute more and oil is running out. If you are so conscious about other environmental contributions, then why not take it one step further.

You know, you environmentalist types would have more credibility if you didn’t speak in half truths all the time.

Yes, big cars pollute more. However oil is NOT running out. There is plenty of oil in the ground that we refuse to drill for. We’d rather fight wars in the desert than drill off the coast.

However, I do agree that it would be nice if we had a coherent and forward thinking energy policy in this country that weaned us off of unrenewable energy sources.

However, for all of you Bush Bashers/Haters who desperately want a Democrat in office let me ask you: what exactly did Billary do about energy policy during their 8 years in office and why do you expect that another 4 or 8 years will be any different?

Hell, even Mr Global Warming himself did next to nothing during his 8 years as Vice President about energy policy.

But I digress.

Unfortunately, I can’t afford payments on two cars and as I stated above, I actually NEED a truck for…you know…truck stuff. However, if you are so concerned about the pending global cataclysm feel free to buy me a hybrid.

In the meantime, I’ll drive less and telecommute more.

[meadandale]

you don’t need to hug trees to know that big cars pollute more and oil is running out. If you are so conscious about other environmental contributions, then why not take it one step further.

You know, you environmentalist types would have more credibility if you didn’t speak in half truths all the time.

Yes, big cars pollute more. However oil is NOT running out. There is plenty of oil in the ground that we refuse to drill for. We’d rather fight wars in the desert than drill off the coast.

However, I do agree that it would be nice if we had a coherent and forward thinking energy policy in this country that weaned us off of unrenewable energy sources.

However, for all of you Bush Bashers/Haters who desperately want a Democrat in office let me ask you: what exactly did Billary do about energy policy during their 8 years in office and why do you expect that another 4 or 8 years will be any different?

Hell, even Mr Global Warming himself did next to nothing during his 8 years as Vice President about energy policy.

But I digress.

Unfortunately, I can’t afford payments on two cars and as I stated above, I actually NEED a truck for…you know…truck stuff. However, if you are so concerned about the pending global cataclysm feel free to buy me a hybrid.

In the meantime, I’ll drive less and telecommute more.

[Coronita]

I can understand people using a large vehicle if they need it for work, but there are no excuses for using one for recreation. It is selfish, and I'm glad to see social

 

um this isn't entirely correct. A bigger vehicle these days aren't always less efficient than a smaller vehicle.

There is a trend going on right now. SUV mileage is going up because people have started buying less of them. Meanwhile middle segment of cars are actually going through "horsepower wars" and MPG of these cars have actually fallen. You can find plenty of crossovers that do 20-30mpg. Meanwhile, if you look about what's going on among BMW/Merc/Acura/Audi/Lexus/Infiniti. It's all about horsepower. Common average use cars like 335i,G37,IS350 are pushing towards the 270-300hp range. Most people don't "need" this. They are burning more gas than your Acura CUV,Ford Edge's, or BMW X5 six banger. You want to regulate them too?

BTW toyota makes hybrids, not because they really care about the environment by itself. They do it so they can sell more cars that have more V8's and aren't as environmentally friendly. Car manufacturers have to abide to CAFE emission rules, and there's some metric that says X percentage of cars have to produce Y emissions or below, and on average vehicles from a manufacturer meet some criteria. Toyota needs to sell these prius to enable them to produce more lexuses, camry, avalons, 4runners,sequoias, and tacomas/tundras, that guz gas with the 300+ hp v8's. So while your intentions might be good to "save the environment by buying a prius", behind the scene you are actually also enabling toyota to produce more less-eco-friendly vehicles for others to buy.

Honda on the other hand doens't have an V8 offering in any of their cars. Honda arguably is more green than other cars. BUT they are getting killed in the american car markets, because they're cars are felt as no longer competitive offerings.

 

American consumers demand higher performance these in recent times. They haven't till now considered mileage as a purchasing decision until now. The price of fas is simply responding to demand. This is a free economy, when the price of gas reaches to $5+, it will sort out who really can operate 300hp machines of any kind and who cant.

 

 

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—– Sour grapes for everyone

!

[Coronita]

I can understand people using a large vehicle if they need it for work, but there are no excuses for using one for recreation. It is selfish, and I'm glad to see social

 

um this isn't entirely correct. A bigger vehicle these days aren't always less efficient than a smaller vehicle.

There is a trend going on right now. SUV mileage is going up because people have started buying less of them. Meanwhile middle segment of cars are actually going through "horsepower wars" and MPG of these cars have actually fallen. You can find plenty of crossovers that do 20-30mpg. Meanwhile, if you look about what's going on among BMW/Merc/Acura/Audi/Lexus/Infiniti. It's all about horsepower. Common average use cars like 335i,G37,IS350 are pushing towards the 270-300hp range. Most people don't "need" this. They are burning more gas than your Acura CUV,Ford Edge's, or BMW X5 six banger. You want to regulate them too?

BTW toyota makes hybrids, not because they really care about the environment by itself. They do it so they can sell more cars that have more V8's and aren't as environmentally friendly. Car manufacturers have to abide to CAFE emission rules, and there's some metric that says X percentage of cars have to produce Y emissions or below, and on average vehicles from a manufacturer meet some criteria. Toyota needs to sell these prius to enable them to produce more lexuses, camry, avalons, 4runners,sequoias, and tacomas/tundras, that guz gas with the 300+ hp v8's. So while your intentions might be good to "save the environment by buying a prius", behind the scene you are actually also enabling toyota to produce more less-eco-friendly vehicles for others to buy.

Honda on the other hand doens't have an V8 offering in any of their cars. Honda arguably is more green than other cars. BUT they are getting killed in the american car markets, because they're cars are felt as no longer competitive offerings.

 

American consumers demand higher performance these in recent times. They haven't till now considered mileage as a purchasing decision until now. The price of fas is simply responding to demand. This is a free economy, when the price of gas reaches to $5+, it will sort out who really can operate 300hp machines of any kind and who cant.

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone

!

[Coronita]

I can understand people using a large vehicle if they need it for work, but there are no excuses for using one for recreation. It is selfish, and I'm glad to see social

 

um this isn't entirely correct. A bigger vehicle these days aren't always less efficient than a smaller vehicle.

There is a trend going on right now. SUV mileage is going up because people have started buying less of them. Meanwhile middle segment of cars are actually going through "horsepower wars" and MPG of these cars have actually fallen. You can find plenty of crossovers that do 20-30mpg. Meanwhile, if you look about what's going on among BMW/Merc/Acura/Audi/Lexus/Infiniti. It's all about horsepower. Common average use cars like 335i,G37,IS350 are pushing towards the 270-300hp range. Most people don't "need" this. They are burning more gas than your Acura CUV,Ford Edge's, or BMW X5 six banger. You want to regulate them too?

BTW toyota makes hybrids, not because they really care about the environment by itself. They do it so they can sell more cars that have more V8's and aren't as environmentally friendly. Car manufacturers have to abide to CAFE emission rules, and there's some metric that says X percentage of cars have to produce Y emissions or below, and on average vehicles from a manufacturer meet some criteria. Toyota needs to sell these prius to enable them to produce more lexuses, camry, avalons, 4runners,sequoias, and tacomas/tundras, that guz gas with the 300+ hp v8's. So while your intentions might be good to "save the environment by buying a prius", behind the scene you are actually also enabling toyota to produce more less-eco-friendly vehicles for others to buy.

Honda on the other hand doens't have an V8 offering in any of their cars. Honda arguably is more green than other cars. BUT they are getting killed in the american car markets, because they're cars are felt as no longer competitive offerings.

 

American consumers demand higher performance these in recent times. They haven't till now considered mileage as a purchasing decision until now. The price of fas is simply responding to demand. This is a free economy, when the price of gas reaches to $5+, it will sort out who really can operate 300hp machines of any kind and who cant.

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone

!

[Coronita]

I can understand people using a large vehicle if they need it for work, but there are no excuses for using one for recreation. It is selfish, and I'm glad to see social

 

um this isn't entirely correct. A bigger vehicle these days aren't always less efficient than a smaller vehicle.

There is a trend going on right now. SUV mileage is going up because people have started buying less of them. Meanwhile middle segment of cars are actually going through "horsepower wars" and MPG of these cars have actually fallen. You can find plenty of crossovers that do 20-30mpg. Meanwhile, if you look about what's going on among BMW/Merc/Acura/Audi/Lexus/Infiniti. It's all about horsepower. Common average use cars like 335i,G37,IS350 are pushing towards the 270-300hp range. Most people don't "need" this. They are burning more gas than your Acura CUV,Ford Edge's, or BMW X5 six banger. You want to regulate them too?

BTW toyota makes hybrids, not because they really care about the environment by itself. They do it so they can sell more cars that have more V8's and aren't as environmentally friendly. Car manufacturers have to abide to CAFE emission rules, and there's some metric that says X percentage of cars have to produce Y emissions or below, and on average vehicles from a manufacturer meet some criteria. Toyota needs to sell these prius to enable them to produce more lexuses, camry, avalons, 4runners,sequoias, and tacomas/tundras, that guz gas with the 300+ hp v8's. So while your intentions might be good to "save the environment by buying a prius", behind the scene you are actually also enabling toyota to produce more less-eco-friendly vehicles for others to buy.

Honda on the other hand doens't have an V8 offering in any of their cars. Honda arguably is more green than other cars. BUT they are getting killed in the american car markets, because they're cars are felt as no longer competitive offerings.

 

American consumers demand higher performance these in recent times. They haven't till now considered mileage as a purchasing decision until now. The price of fas is simply responding to demand. This is a free economy, when the price of gas reaches to $5+, it will sort out who really can operate 300hp machines of any kind and who cant.

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone

!

[Coronita]

I can understand people using a large vehicle if they need it for work, but there are no excuses for using one for recreation. It is selfish, and I'm glad to see social

 

um this isn't entirely correct. A bigger vehicle these days aren't always less efficient than a smaller vehicle.

There is a trend going on right now. SUV mileage is going up because people have started buying less of them. Meanwhile middle segment of cars are actually going through "horsepower wars" and MPG of these cars have actually fallen. You can find plenty of crossovers that do 20-30mpg. Meanwhile, if you look about what's going on among BMW/Merc/Acura/Audi/Lexus/Infiniti. It's all about horsepower. Common average use cars like 335i,G37,IS350 are pushing towards the 270-300hp range. Most people don't "need" this. They are burning more gas than your Acura CUV,Ford Edge's, or BMW X5 six banger. You want to regulate them too?

BTW toyota makes hybrids, not because they really care about the environment by itself. They do it so they can sell more cars that have more V8's and aren't as environmentally friendly. Car manufacturers have to abide to CAFE emission rules, and there's some metric that says X percentage of cars have to produce Y emissions or below, and on average vehicles from a manufacturer meet some criteria. Toyota needs to sell these prius to enable them to produce more lexuses, camry, avalons, 4runners,sequoias, and tacomas/tundras, that guz gas with the 300+ hp v8's. So while your intentions might be good to "save the environment by buying a prius", behind the scene you are actually also enabling toyota to produce more less-eco-friendly vehicles for others to buy.

Honda on the other hand doens't have an V8 offering in any of their cars. Honda arguably is more green than other cars. BUT they are getting killed in the american car markets, because they're cars are felt as no longer competitive offerings.

 

American consumers demand higher performance these in recent times. They haven't till now considered mileage as a purchasing decision until now. The price of fas is simply responding to demand. This is a free economy, when the price of gas reaches to $5+, it will sort out who really can operate 300hp machines of any kind and who cant.

 

 

[img_assist|nid=5962|title=selfportrait|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=100|height=80]

—– Sour grapes for everyone

!

[blahblahblah]

Gotta agree with you on those points, meadandale.

That said, having more energy-efficient vehicles would be a great benefit to us. We could reduce the amount of money we send to undemocratic countries like Saudi Arabia and developing new technologies would be good for jobs here as well as for exporting products abroad. It would hopefully be good for the environment if we do it right. It really is a no-brainer. Hybrids, electrics, electric flywheel vehicles, there are all kinds of good ideas out there. What is missing is the political will from either party to do anything other than keeping the status quo going.

With regards to Gore, has anyone noticed that all of the proposals to fix the global warming issue are just new taxes and trading schemes? They’re just going to shift fossil fuel consumption from the poor to the rich without doing ANYTHING to reduce the total amount of fuel being burned. It’s almost like they’re trying to starve the third world because they’re worried about overpopulation. If they were really serious, the way to go about reducing fossil fuel use would be to develop smaller villages connected by railways with locally grown food sources and incentives to telecommute or walk or ride a bike to work.

So if you really want to save the environment, start telecommuting or if your job won’t let you, quit it and find one that will! It can really improve your overall quality of life, you’ll be amazed…

[blahblahblah]

Gotta agree with you on those points, meadandale.

That said, having more energy-efficient vehicles would be a great benefit to us. We could reduce the amount of money we send to undemocratic countries like Saudi Arabia and developing new technologies would be good for jobs here as well as for exporting products abroad. It would hopefully be good for the environment if we do it right. It really is a no-brainer. Hybrids, electrics, electric flywheel vehicles, there are all kinds of good ideas out there. What is missing is the political will from either party to do anything other than keeping the status quo going.

With regards to Gore, has anyone noticed that all of the proposals to fix the global warming issue are just new taxes and trading schemes? They’re just going to shift fossil fuel consumption from the poor to the rich without doing ANYTHING to reduce the total amount of fuel being burned. It’s almost like they’re trying to starve the third world because they’re worried about overpopulation. If they were really serious, the way to go about reducing fossil fuel use would be to develop smaller villages connected by railways with locally grown food sources and incentives to telecommute or walk or ride a bike to work.

So if you really want to save the environment, start telecommuting or if your job won’t let you, quit it and find one that will! It can really improve your overall quality of life, you’ll be amazed…

[blahblahblah]

Gotta agree with you on those points, meadandale.

That said, having more energy-efficient vehicles would be a great benefit to us. We could reduce the amount of money we send to undemocratic countries like Saudi Arabia and developing new technologies would be good for jobs here as well as for exporting products abroad. It would hopefully be good for the environment if we do it right. It really is a no-brainer. Hybrids, electrics, electric flywheel vehicles, there are all kinds of good ideas out there. What is missing is the political will from either party to do anything other than keeping the status quo going.

With regards to Gore, has anyone noticed that all of the proposals to fix the global warming issue are just new taxes and trading schemes? They’re just going to shift fossil fuel consumption from the poor to the rich without doing ANYTHING to reduce the total amount of fuel being burned. It’s almost like they’re trying to starve the third world because they’re worried about overpopulation. If they were really serious, the way to go about reducing fossil fuel use would be to develop smaller villages connected by railways with locally grown food sources and incentives to telecommute or walk or ride a bike to work.

So if you really want to save the environment, start telecommuting or if your job won’t let you, quit it and find one that will! It can really improve your overall quality of life, you’ll be amazed…

[blahblahblah]

Gotta agree with you on those points, meadandale.

That said, having more energy-efficient vehicles would be a great benefit to us. We could reduce the amount of money we send to undemocratic countries like Saudi Arabia and developing new technologies would be good for jobs here as well as for exporting products abroad. It would hopefully be good for the environment if we do it right. It really is a no-brainer. Hybrids, electrics, electric flywheel vehicles, there are all kinds of good ideas out there. What is missing is the political will from either party to do anything other than keeping the status quo going.

With regards to Gore, has anyone noticed that all of the proposals to fix the global warming issue are just new taxes and trading schemes? They’re just going to shift fossil fuel consumption from the poor to the rich without doing ANYTHING to reduce the total amount of fuel being burned. It’s almost like they’re trying to starve the third world because they’re worried about overpopulation. If they were really serious, the way to go about reducing fossil fuel use would be to develop smaller villages connected by railways with locally grown food sources and incentives to telecommute or walk or ride a bike to work.

So if you really want to save the environment, start telecommuting or if your job won’t let you, quit it and find one that will! It can really improve your overall quality of life, you’ll be amazed…

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