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May 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM #200028May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM #199907luchabeeParticipant
Concho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM #199948luchabeeParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM #199974luchabeeParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM #199999luchabeeParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM #200033luchabeeParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
May 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM #199912drunkleParticipantconsumerism totally makes sense if you’re a consumer:
half a dozen kids
2 pets for each kid
3 recreational/sport vehicles for each family member
3 vacations per year
daily outings to consumer destinations and hobbiesyou obviously NEED a land yacht in order to HAVE all these very important things… of course, mini vans work too, but they’re so uncool. as are station wagons. hybrid suv’s are coming out, but what’s their towing capacity? don’t forget all the lumber and concrete that has to be hauled inside your leather interior 10 speaker in dash dvd “utility” vehicle.
then again, if you can’t afford to TIP, then you can’t afford to eat out… how many of these proud former suv owners bought with their heloc’s.
May 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM #199953drunkleParticipantconsumerism totally makes sense if you’re a consumer:
half a dozen kids
2 pets for each kid
3 recreational/sport vehicles for each family member
3 vacations per year
daily outings to consumer destinations and hobbiesyou obviously NEED a land yacht in order to HAVE all these very important things… of course, mini vans work too, but they’re so uncool. as are station wagons. hybrid suv’s are coming out, but what’s their towing capacity? don’t forget all the lumber and concrete that has to be hauled inside your leather interior 10 speaker in dash dvd “utility” vehicle.
then again, if you can’t afford to TIP, then you can’t afford to eat out… how many of these proud former suv owners bought with their heloc’s.
May 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM #199981drunkleParticipantconsumerism totally makes sense if you’re a consumer:
half a dozen kids
2 pets for each kid
3 recreational/sport vehicles for each family member
3 vacations per year
daily outings to consumer destinations and hobbiesyou obviously NEED a land yacht in order to HAVE all these very important things… of course, mini vans work too, but they’re so uncool. as are station wagons. hybrid suv’s are coming out, but what’s their towing capacity? don’t forget all the lumber and concrete that has to be hauled inside your leather interior 10 speaker in dash dvd “utility” vehicle.
then again, if you can’t afford to TIP, then you can’t afford to eat out… how many of these proud former suv owners bought with their heloc’s.
May 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM #200004drunkleParticipantconsumerism totally makes sense if you’re a consumer:
half a dozen kids
2 pets for each kid
3 recreational/sport vehicles for each family member
3 vacations per year
daily outings to consumer destinations and hobbiesyou obviously NEED a land yacht in order to HAVE all these very important things… of course, mini vans work too, but they’re so uncool. as are station wagons. hybrid suv’s are coming out, but what’s their towing capacity? don’t forget all the lumber and concrete that has to be hauled inside your leather interior 10 speaker in dash dvd “utility” vehicle.
then again, if you can’t afford to TIP, then you can’t afford to eat out… how many of these proud former suv owners bought with their heloc’s.
May 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM #200038drunkleParticipantconsumerism totally makes sense if you’re a consumer:
half a dozen kids
2 pets for each kid
3 recreational/sport vehicles for each family member
3 vacations per year
daily outings to consumer destinations and hobbiesyou obviously NEED a land yacht in order to HAVE all these very important things… of course, mini vans work too, but they’re so uncool. as are station wagons. hybrid suv’s are coming out, but what’s their towing capacity? don’t forget all the lumber and concrete that has to be hauled inside your leather interior 10 speaker in dash dvd “utility” vehicle.
then again, if you can’t afford to TIP, then you can’t afford to eat out… how many of these proud former suv owners bought with their heloc’s.
May 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM #199922NotCrankyParticipantI know we are talking mostly about cars here but what about those other energy hogs…houses? Maybe if we limited them to a 100 sqft per person that would do the trick. No increased traffic fatalities either. You could heat it just by lighting you own emissions. How green is that?
May 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM #199963NotCrankyParticipantI know we are talking mostly about cars here but what about those other energy hogs…houses? Maybe if we limited them to a 100 sqft per person that would do the trick. No increased traffic fatalities either. You could heat it just by lighting you own emissions. How green is that?
May 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM #199991NotCrankyParticipantI know we are talking mostly about cars here but what about those other energy hogs…houses? Maybe if we limited them to a 100 sqft per person that would do the trick. No increased traffic fatalities either. You could heat it just by lighting you own emissions. How green is that?
May 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM #200014NotCrankyParticipantI know we are talking mostly about cars here but what about those other energy hogs…houses? Maybe if we limited them to a 100 sqft per person that would do the trick. No increased traffic fatalities either. You could heat it just by lighting you own emissions. How green is that?
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