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January 16, 2019 at 12:43 PM #811638January 16, 2019 at 4:34 PM #811640CoronitaParticipant
[quote=mom2dmd][quote=flu][quote=NeetaT]Democrats: High taxes / High fees / Big government
Republicans: Low taxes / Low fees / Small government
There’s your answer![/quote]
and you conveniently keep ignoring my comment… aren’t your 2018 taxes much more than 2017 because of the SALT deduction cap , which was instituted by the GOP? Why do you coveniently lie to yourself and deny this?[/quote]
You seem to be the one in denial or confused. The SALT cap should motivate taxpayers in high-tax blue states to reign in taxation and spending by their state and local governments to the extent taxpayers don’t agree with state and local government policies. Short-term: higher total taxation. Long-term: lower total taxation and/or greater accountability/transparency of state and local governments.[/quote]
The easiest way to test if someone argues strictly based on the financial merits of a tax change or argue only based on political affliction associated with the tax change is simply to substitute the political party that introduced the tax change to see if the person had the same reaction.
I am pretty confident that neetaT and you are in the same category , the latter category… If the democrats I introduced this SALT cap, neither of you gloss over it, neither of you would be redirecting to the idea that this is strictly a blue states problem that should be solved by your proposed unlikely solution that you know well wont happen, and that this SALT cap is a good thing. Both of you would be screaming off the top of your head that “look at all those democrats increasing taxes again”. The only reason you are redirecting is because this is the largest tax increase for many of you and it came from the Republicans.
This is why many of you don’t mind getting screwed. because rather than view this as a more tax versus less regardless of party, many of you still argue red versus blue even when it’s against your best interest, lol.
But hey enjoy your higher tax bill to support the red cause in red States. ha ha ha
January 16, 2019 at 5:20 PM #811641AnonymousGuestAs a California resident, the legislation is theoretically (but not in actuality) against my financial interest yet I agree with it. I have no political affiliation. I understand and appreciate federalism. The federal government (Peter) was tired of being robbed to pay for state and local governments (Paul) via SALT deductions from federal taxes.
January 16, 2019 at 5:26 PM #811643spdrunParticipantThe real robbery is BY the Federal govno-mint, not OF it … we’ve wasted trillions on a homicide spree by our military since 9/11/01. Same goes for funding for “anti terror” security theater.
That money could have been spent on infrastructure, healthcare, the environment, and education, but instead was pissed away for welfare for upper-level military, law enforcement, and their pet contractors.
Doesn’t it burn you that we could have had first-rate versions of the services above, but instead, we made a few hundred thousand corpses (if not millions) in places that aren’t worth a dime of US money? All this while leaving the true culprits behind 9/11 (the Saudis) untouched.
Federalism is overrated; California would be better off on its own without having to pay for the military adventurism and moral panics of the rest of the USA.
January 16, 2019 at 6:58 PM #811644AnonymousGuestFederalism is underappreciated these days. Just look at people calling the Senate racist and seeking to abolish the electoral college. I completely agree with all of the other points. I was at Ground Zero on 911. Both parties (perhaps uniparty???) at all levels of government have squandered our money to benefit a select few.
January 17, 2019 at 1:50 AM #811646FlyerInHiGuest[quote=spdrun]
Federalism is overrated; California would be better off on its own without having to pay for the military adventurism and moral panics of the rest of the USA.[/quote]California would definitely be richer. The California dollar would be stronger.
With federalism, we Californians are taxed proportionately much more than our federal representation. Taxation without representation! I call for CalExit!
California is already richer than the UK and France even though we have a much smaller population.
January 17, 2019 at 2:11 AM #811645FlyerInHiGuest[quote=mom2dmd]As a California resident, the legislation is theoretically (but not in actuality) against my financial interest yet I agree with it. I have no political affiliation. I understand and appreciate federalism. The federal government (Peter) was tired of being robbed to pay for state and local governments (Paul) via SALT deductions from federal taxes.[/quote]
I think you need to retake the political science class and learn the difference between a federal government and a unitary government.
Your two recent posts are contradictory. First you want the federal government to collect more taxes from high income states (more centralization in Washington DC). But then you argue in favor of federalism where power is divided between the central government and the states (less centralization in DC).
Btw, the electoral college is undemocratic. It’s not direct suffrage and not one man one vote. The Senate is also undemocratic and anachronistic. Alaska has 2 senators and Washington DC with about the same population has none. How is that fair?
Btw, Alaska has a smaller population than the City of San Diego, not including the rest of the county.January 19, 2019 at 10:08 PM #811653moneymakerParticipantOk so I finally figured out why DMV registration was so high, son got a parking ticket, didn’t pay it so it got tacked onto the vehicle registration. Says he will reimburse me, just had to read the fine print on the renewal notice.
January 20, 2019 at 1:45 PM #811662spdrunParticipantThat’s actually a lot fairer of a system than in NJ, where the copscum will actually arrest people for unpaid parking tickets. Civil collection at time of registration seems a lot simpler and less disruptive/violent.
January 29, 2019 at 9:53 AM #811685NeetaTParticipantThe average DMV fee in CA is comparable to the DMV fee in Clark County NV. Clark County NV effective property tax rate is .77 % of assessed value. I lived in Clark County NV and felt like I was paying no tax at all compared to the total taxes imposed by CA. I will move back to NV as soon as my wife’s job ends.
DMV fees: Comparable to Clark County, NV.
Sales tax: Comparable to Clark County, NV.
Property tax far less in Clark County, NV. than CA.
No income tax in Clark County, NV.
A $750,000.00 home in CA is a $300,000.00 home in Clark County, NV.I am retired, so Clark County, NV is a great option for me. If you have to work and need a high paying job then maybe this would not be a good option. I like golf and the outdoors, so it is a great option and seeing that I lived there before, I am comfortable about returning.
January 30, 2019 at 10:19 AM #811690FlyerInHiGuestCheck the cost of auto insurance in Clark County, NV.
You need to go further East. Californians ruined Nevada already, haha.If you live in CA because of your wife’s job, then that means that all things considered, California is still superior. Otherwise, you would have made the rational choice to move already. Simple economics.
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