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July 9, 2009 at 9:39 PM #428615July 9, 2009 at 11:51 PM #427924
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Participant[quote=SD Realtor]The thing that concerns me about Del Sur, at least the newer communities there are the MR fees. Not cheap at all. It is just harder for me to reconcile that overhead to be honest. FLU I would advise your relative to try to get into either some of the short sales or get a new place because the standard resellers dont get it. The problem is that the builders have squeezed the releases into such small numbers that they have done a great job
creating demand out of nothing.[/quote]At this time it does not appear that the newer homes or short sales are going for much lower than resales.
July 9, 2009 at 11:51 PM #428151Participant[quote=SD Realtor]The thing that concerns me about Del Sur, at least the newer communities there are the MR fees. Not cheap at all. It is just harder for me to reconcile that overhead to be honest. FLU I would advise your relative to try to get into either some of the short sales or get a new place because the standard resellers dont get it. The problem is that the builders have squeezed the releases into such small numbers that they have done a great job
creating demand out of nothing.[/quote]At this time it does not appear that the newer homes or short sales are going for much lower than resales.
July 9, 2009 at 11:51 PM #428441Participant[quote=SD Realtor]The thing that concerns me about Del Sur, at least the newer communities there are the MR fees. Not cheap at all. It is just harder for me to reconcile that overhead to be honest. FLU I would advise your relative to try to get into either some of the short sales or get a new place because the standard resellers dont get it. The problem is that the builders have squeezed the releases into such small numbers that they have done a great job
creating demand out of nothing.[/quote]At this time it does not appear that the newer homes or short sales are going for much lower than resales.
July 9, 2009 at 11:51 PM #428513Participant[quote=SD Realtor]The thing that concerns me about Del Sur, at least the newer communities there are the MR fees. Not cheap at all. It is just harder for me to reconcile that overhead to be honest. FLU I would advise your relative to try to get into either some of the short sales or get a new place because the standard resellers dont get it. The problem is that the builders have squeezed the releases into such small numbers that they have done a great job
creating demand out of nothing.[/quote]At this time it does not appear that the newer homes or short sales are going for much lower than resales.
July 9, 2009 at 11:51 PM #428674Participant[quote=SD Realtor]The thing that concerns me about Del Sur, at least the newer communities there are the MR fees. Not cheap at all. It is just harder for me to reconcile that overhead to be honest. FLU I would advise your relative to try to get into either some of the short sales or get a new place because the standard resellers dont get it. The problem is that the builders have squeezed the releases into such small numbers that they have done a great job
creating demand out of nothing.[/quote]At this time it does not appear that the newer homes or short sales are going for much lower than resales.
July 10, 2009 at 7:14 AM #427973ocrenter
Participantmello roos:
older 4S (south of camino del norte), the rate was 0.5% based on home prices from 2002, so you could have homes with just $2500/year for a 3,000 sqft home.
newer 4S (north of samino del norte), the rate jumped to 0.75% based on home prices from 2006, so you might have homes with $6000/year for that 3,000 sqft home.
Del Sur, rate of course is pegged at 0.9% based on home prices from 2007, so now we are in the $7500/year range for that same 3,000 sqft home.
as for HOA, 4S homes are very uniform, we are looking at $100-150 in general. Del Sur we are looking at $250/month.
So older 4S may not have pool access, but the difference could mean a saving of up to $6800/year in mello roos/HOA cost.
A well done vinyl pool with spa can cost a homeowner ~$30k. that’s 4 and a half years of that Del Sur surcharge.
July 10, 2009 at 7:14 AM #428200Participantmello roos:
older 4S (south of camino del norte), the rate was 0.5% based on home prices from 2002, so you could have homes with just $2500/year for a 3,000 sqft home.
newer 4S (north of samino del norte), the rate jumped to 0.75% based on home prices from 2006, so you might have homes with $6000/year for that 3,000 sqft home.
Del Sur, rate of course is pegged at 0.9% based on home prices from 2007, so now we are in the $7500/year range for that same 3,000 sqft home.
as for HOA, 4S homes are very uniform, we are looking at $100-150 in general. Del Sur we are looking at $250/month.
So older 4S may not have pool access, but the difference could mean a saving of up to $6800/year in mello roos/HOA cost.
A well done vinyl pool with spa can cost a homeowner ~$30k. that’s 4 and a half years of that Del Sur surcharge.
July 10, 2009 at 7:14 AM #428491Participantmello roos:
older 4S (south of camino del norte), the rate was 0.5% based on home prices from 2002, so you could have homes with just $2500/year for a 3,000 sqft home.
newer 4S (north of samino del norte), the rate jumped to 0.75% based on home prices from 2006, so you might have homes with $6000/year for that 3,000 sqft home.
Del Sur, rate of course is pegged at 0.9% based on home prices from 2007, so now we are in the $7500/year range for that same 3,000 sqft home.
as for HOA, 4S homes are very uniform, we are looking at $100-150 in general. Del Sur we are looking at $250/month.
So older 4S may not have pool access, but the difference could mean a saving of up to $6800/year in mello roos/HOA cost.
A well done vinyl pool with spa can cost a homeowner ~$30k. that’s 4 and a half years of that Del Sur surcharge.
July 10, 2009 at 7:14 AM #428562Participantmello roos:
older 4S (south of camino del norte), the rate was 0.5% based on home prices from 2002, so you could have homes with just $2500/year for a 3,000 sqft home.
newer 4S (north of samino del norte), the rate jumped to 0.75% based on home prices from 2006, so you might have homes with $6000/year for that 3,000 sqft home.
Del Sur, rate of course is pegged at 0.9% based on home prices from 2007, so now we are in the $7500/year range for that same 3,000 sqft home.
as for HOA, 4S homes are very uniform, we are looking at $100-150 in general. Del Sur we are looking at $250/month.
So older 4S may not have pool access, but the difference could mean a saving of up to $6800/year in mello roos/HOA cost.
A well done vinyl pool with spa can cost a homeowner ~$30k. that’s 4 and a half years of that Del Sur surcharge.
July 10, 2009 at 7:14 AM #428724Participantmello roos:
older 4S (south of camino del norte), the rate was 0.5% based on home prices from 2002, so you could have homes with just $2500/year for a 3,000 sqft home.
newer 4S (north of samino del norte), the rate jumped to 0.75% based on home prices from 2006, so you might have homes with $6000/year for that 3,000 sqft home.
Del Sur, rate of course is pegged at 0.9% based on home prices from 2007, so now we are in the $7500/year range for that same 3,000 sqft home.
as for HOA, 4S homes are very uniform, we are looking at $100-150 in general. Del Sur we are looking at $250/month.
So older 4S may not have pool access, but the difference could mean a saving of up to $6800/year in mello roos/HOA cost.
A well done vinyl pool with spa can cost a homeowner ~$30k. that’s 4 and a half years of that Del Sur surcharge.
July 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM #428058freshman
ParticipantThat’s true. The surcharges from DS are more than you can install those facilities in a house in 4S.
The areas around DS and 4S are draught tolerent, you don’t see any big trees or big grassland on hill or canyon like Scripps. Scripps has wildfire often. DS has tankless water heater and solar panel but these prices are included in the housing price and property tax. Usually it is cheaper to hire outside vendors to do the jobs than the builders install them for you. It is just a matter of installing them by the builders or yourself.
Recycle water goes to 4S front yard and included in HOA and it saves water too. On enviro friendly, DS and 4S are the same.I like DS to promote the eco friendly idea. But how many people are willing to pay for the costs ? like hybrid car, people find out they need to save 10 years on gas in order to compensate the extra cost to buy hybrid car than regular one. Leaders of the G8 leading industrial countries have agreed to try to limit global warming to just 2C (3.6F) above pre-industrial levels by 2050 ! 40 years from now…. china and India resist. Also, many lux cars parks around DS, not hybrid. The air around DS is fresher than 4S ?
More empty lands around DS for future developement. If it is golf course, surely DS price goes up. But if they build future houses, commercial or industry, will DS price go down?
Kensington at Del Sur just reduces the new house price from 700K to 650K early this week, PPSF is almost same in 4S.
July 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM #428285ParticipantThat’s true. The surcharges from DS are more than you can install those facilities in a house in 4S.
The areas around DS and 4S are draught tolerent, you don’t see any big trees or big grassland on hill or canyon like Scripps. Scripps has wildfire often. DS has tankless water heater and solar panel but these prices are included in the housing price and property tax. Usually it is cheaper to hire outside vendors to do the jobs than the builders install them for you. It is just a matter of installing them by the builders or yourself.
Recycle water goes to 4S front yard and included in HOA and it saves water too. On enviro friendly, DS and 4S are the same.I like DS to promote the eco friendly idea. But how many people are willing to pay for the costs ? like hybrid car, people find out they need to save 10 years on gas in order to compensate the extra cost to buy hybrid car than regular one. Leaders of the G8 leading industrial countries have agreed to try to limit global warming to just 2C (3.6F) above pre-industrial levels by 2050 ! 40 years from now…. china and India resist. Also, many lux cars parks around DS, not hybrid. The air around DS is fresher than 4S ?
More empty lands around DS for future developement. If it is golf course, surely DS price goes up. But if they build future houses, commercial or industry, will DS price go down?
Kensington at Del Sur just reduces the new house price from 700K to 650K early this week, PPSF is almost same in 4S.
July 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM #428576ParticipantThat’s true. The surcharges from DS are more than you can install those facilities in a house in 4S.
The areas around DS and 4S are draught tolerent, you don’t see any big trees or big grassland on hill or canyon like Scripps. Scripps has wildfire often. DS has tankless water heater and solar panel but these prices are included in the housing price and property tax. Usually it is cheaper to hire outside vendors to do the jobs than the builders install them for you. It is just a matter of installing them by the builders or yourself.
Recycle water goes to 4S front yard and included in HOA and it saves water too. On enviro friendly, DS and 4S are the same.I like DS to promote the eco friendly idea. But how many people are willing to pay for the costs ? like hybrid car, people find out they need to save 10 years on gas in order to compensate the extra cost to buy hybrid car than regular one. Leaders of the G8 leading industrial countries have agreed to try to limit global warming to just 2C (3.6F) above pre-industrial levels by 2050 ! 40 years from now…. china and India resist. Also, many lux cars parks around DS, not hybrid. The air around DS is fresher than 4S ?
More empty lands around DS for future developement. If it is golf course, surely DS price goes up. But if they build future houses, commercial or industry, will DS price go down?
Kensington at Del Sur just reduces the new house price from 700K to 650K early this week, PPSF is almost same in 4S.
July 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM #428647ParticipantThat’s true. The surcharges from DS are more than you can install those facilities in a house in 4S.
The areas around DS and 4S are draught tolerent, you don’t see any big trees or big grassland on hill or canyon like Scripps. Scripps has wildfire often. DS has tankless water heater and solar panel but these prices are included in the housing price and property tax. Usually it is cheaper to hire outside vendors to do the jobs than the builders install them for you. It is just a matter of installing them by the builders or yourself.
Recycle water goes to 4S front yard and included in HOA and it saves water too. On enviro friendly, DS and 4S are the same.I like DS to promote the eco friendly idea. But how many people are willing to pay for the costs ? like hybrid car, people find out they need to save 10 years on gas in order to compensate the extra cost to buy hybrid car than regular one. Leaders of the G8 leading industrial countries have agreed to try to limit global warming to just 2C (3.6F) above pre-industrial levels by 2050 ! 40 years from now…. china and India resist. Also, many lux cars parks around DS, not hybrid. The air around DS is fresher than 4S ?
More empty lands around DS for future developement. If it is golf course, surely DS price goes up. But if they build future houses, commercial or industry, will DS price go down?
Kensington at Del Sur just reduces the new house price from 700K to 650K early this week, PPSF is almost same in 4S.
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