Coronavirus Endgame

[sdduuuude]

I meant I hope he lets things open county-by-county cuz I don’t want to wait around for all the other counties to get their act together.

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[quote=sdduuuude]I meant I hope he lets things open county-by-county cuz I don’t want to wait around for all the other counties to get their act together.[/quote]

I’m not sure county by county will work since it is common for folks to travel inter-county to go to work. I guess a county having issues could restrict folks from entering or leaving the county.

State by state would work better as folks don’t go between states as often.

[outtamojo]

Sounds like there will be civil unrest soon.

[sdduuuude]

How about in cities where less than 1 in a million school-aged people have died, we send them back to school.

The latest – in San Diego county, 2 people under the age of 50 have died. Zero under 20. Zero. None.

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[quote=sdduuuude]How about in cities where less than 1 in a million school-aged people have died, we send them back to school.

The latest – in San Diego county, 2 people under the age of 50 have died. Zero under 20. Zero. None.[/quote]

It’s not that younger folk have a very big chance of dying.

It’s that they can transmit it to higher risk folk.

And some of the stories in that area aren’t pretty. Delirium is being reported in survivors.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/15/us/coronavirus-icu-delirium/index.html

[spdrun]

On the plus side, 15% of pregnant women coming to the maternity ward in one NYC hospital were COVID positive for active infection. They didn’t test for antibodies/previous infection, so the true figure for infections is likely higher than 15%, assuming pregnant women represent a population sample.

Of that 15%, only about 1 out of 15 had overt symptoms. This is more evidence that this thing isn’t particularly horrible for most people — it’s super-contagious rather than being very lethal. Best case scenario, 50% or more of NYC has already been exposed, and we’re looking at a much smaller death rate than previously predicted. 10000 / 4 million means an 0.25% death rate, not 3% as some models predicted. 50% immune in a population will also slow the growth of new cases dramatically, since 50% of people are no longer viable viral hosts.

The delirium thing seems like a general consequence of being on a vent and sedated for a long time, not of some form of viral encephalitis, but who knows?

[sdduuuude]

[quote=spdrun]On the plus side, 15% of pregnant women coming to the maternity ward in one NYC hospital were COVID positive for active infection. They didn’t test for antibodies/previous infection, so the true figure for infections is likely higher than 15%, assuming pregnant women represent a population sample.

Of that 15%, only about 1 out of 15 had overt symptoms. This is more evidence that this thing isn’t particularly horrible for most people — it’s super-contagious rather than being very lethal. Best case scenario, 50% or more of NYC has already been exposed, and we’re looking at a much smaller death rate than previously predicted. 10000 / 4 million means an 0.25% death rate, not 3% as some models predicted. 50% immune in a population will also slow the growth of new cases dramatically, since 50% of people are no longer viable viral hosts.

The delirium thing seems like a general consequence of being on a vent and sedated for a long time, not of some form of viral encephalitis, but who knows?[/quote]

Ya, that’s pretty interesting.

Seems like a nice random sample of 1000 people in San Diego County could tell us alot.

This doesn’t say how many there are, but these are available in SD now.
https://www.scripps.org/news_items/6938-scripps-health-launches-rapid-covid-19-testing-at-hospitals

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[quote=spdrun]
The delirium thing seems like a general consequence of being on a vent and sedated for a long time, not of some form of viral encephalitis, but who knows?[/quote]

Yeah I have no idea either. Something to keep an eye on though.

We’re all trying to figure out the size of this tiger…is it the size of a dinosaur or a house cat? It is not clear.

[spdrun]

Probably more like a rat or mouse. A pest that’s relatively unlikely to kill you but multiplies very quickly.

[scaredyclassic]

It is kind of a tough call. How much is a human life worth? Are the elderly Nonworking worth less?

How much suffering will society tolerate if the hospitals get overwhelmed.

A life really isnt worth much, dollar wise. In litigation, you get more for suffering, ongoing care than a nice quick death.

People are really kinda cheap. You cant buy em but if you kill one and it didn’t earn much, it’s not all that expensive. A nice house in SD is worth more

[sdduuuude]

[quote=spdrun]Probably more like a rat or mouse. A pest that’s relatively unlikely to kill you but multiplies very quickly.[/quote]

Well done.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=scaredyclassic]It is kind of a tough call. How much is a human life worth? Are the elderly Nonworking worth less?

How much suffering will society tolerate if the hospitals get overwhelmed.

A life really isnt worth much, dollar wise. In litigation, you get more for suffering, ongoing care than a nice quick death.

People are really kinda cheap. You cant buy em but if you kill one and it didn’t earn much, it’s not all that expensive. A nice house in SD is worth more[/quote]

I’m not suggesting we kill all the old people. Just keep them in isolation so the whole county doesn’t get put out, economically, to protect them.

San Diego has a total of about 2100 cases.
That many died in NY in the last three days.

There are seniors in high school who are deeply depressed. For them, a worse medical condition that if they contracted the virus.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=sdduuuude][quote=scaredyclassic]It is kind of a tough call. How much is a human life worth? Are the elderly Nonworking worth less?

How much suffering will society tolerate if the hospitals get overwhelmed.

A life really isnt worth much, dollar wise. In litigation, you get more for suffering, ongoing care than a nice quick death.

People are really kinda cheap. You cant buy em but if you kill one and it didn’t earn much, it’s not all that expensive. A nice house in SD is worth more[/quote]

I’m not suggesting we kill all the old people. Just keep them in isolation so the whole county doesn’t get put out, economically, to protect them.

San Diego has a total of about 2100 cases.
That many died in NY in the last three days.

There are seniors in high school who are deeply depressed. For them, a worse medical condition that if they contracted the virus.[/quote]

I agree sduude. But our culture is about overdoing everything. In search for perfection, we achieve failure instead. Trump said at one of his briefings that we spent $8 trillion in the Middle East. My question is: For what? Just to hunt down a few suspected terrorists?

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[quote=FlyerInHi]
Trump said at one of his briefings that we spent $8 trillion in the Middle East. My question is: For what? Just to hunt down a few suspected terrorists?[/quote]

We have strategic military bases there that the general public seems to ignore. The news passes them over for some reason.

[FlyerInHi]

It comes back to: what’s a life worth?
Would be tolerate 10000 death in San Diego with hospitals overwhelmed for 1 week for $ billions in economic activity, and freedom of movement for the rest of the population?

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