Cabal, well, at least you admit that Bel Etage and Savenna needed to install security cameras because of vandalism and unauthorized access. It’s up to individual home buyers to decide their level of tolerance for intrusion and crime.
I have been looking carefully at Bel Etage/Savenna/Salviati homes because as you pointed out, they are quality homes with large lot sizes. One other problem with these neighborhoods is poor visibility while accessing Camino del Sur from Coyote Bush and Four Gee Rd, especially when it’s foggy. They need a stoplight but apparently it’s too expensive.