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April 2, 2007 at 11:20 AM #8730April 2, 2007 at 11:28 AM #48937hipmattParticipant
Here is his most recent TV appearance if you want to know a bit more about Peter..
http://www.europac.net/Schiff-CNBC-3-30-07_lg.aspApril 2, 2007 at 1:59 PM #48947Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantChris Johnston
Matt, he has been calling for a housing drop for 5 or 6 years. He may eventually be right, but his timing has been awful. Guys like Rich have been much more timely, even if a bit early.
April 2, 2007 at 4:57 PM #48970hipmattParticipantChris..
Can you really blame anyone who thought the correction was gonna start earlier? It was common sense to believe things weren’t gonna last as long as they did or get as high as they did. I sure expected things to stop long before 06/07. Who really thought that it would be common place for an average family to take out a 100% loan for $400k or more. I mean, the events that have taken place in the last 3 years have been mind blowing as far as ignoring common sense goes.If anything I feel it is more impressive to call a correction before it happens even if it is a bit early, then to jump on the bandwagon after the obvious.
An when you say he “may eventually be right” .. sounds to me like you don’t expect a housing drop?
In any case, I appreciate him voicing valid concerns in the midst of a media that wants to pretend that everything is all good.
April 2, 2007 at 5:57 PM #48979BoratParticipantThere’s an old saying, something like, “The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent”. Anyway, the market was probably overvalued here in SD back in 2001, so just because they called it a few years early they were still right. No one could have predicted that people would be getting 100%+ NINJA loans. Total insanity…
April 2, 2007 at 6:51 PM #48987kewpParticipantSigh.
I hope the powers that be are wise enough to allow this mess to correct itself, rather than try and postpone it with the dollar printing press again.
Somehow, I doubt that.
April 2, 2007 at 7:52 PM #48991Happy renterParticipantkewp
Yes, I wish the mess will be corrected by itself with price adjustment also!Fed will be very likely to lower interest rate if the housing market crashes. However, the Fed can only lower 1/4 or 1/2 the most at a time. Also, it can only change the Fed rate during to the meeting schedule.
Hopefully, the market will crash hard and fast to correct itself. Even the Fed lowers the rate, it won’t stop the correction.
April 2, 2007 at 8:14 PM #48993blahblahblahParticipantThere will be a lot of pressure on the government by both the lenders and the lendees for a bail-out. Everyone, from the dumbest FBers to the high-paid executives of mortgage companies wants to keep their winnings to themselves but transfer their losses to somebody else. “Privatize profit, publicize risk.”
April 2, 2007 at 8:48 PM #48994PerryChaseParticipant“Privatize Profits, Nationalize Risks.” Interesting way of looking at things. That’s exactly what’s been happening during the Bush years.
April 2, 2007 at 8:54 PM #48995kewpParticipantI don’t think there is enough money available to finance any meaningful sort of bail-out. Even with borrowing from China and running the printing presses full time.
Re: interest rates
I assume this will be a good thing for potential future homeowners. Assuming they are making money and have good credit, low interest rates plus a burst housing bubble is a winning combination.
The trillion dollar question, though, is how dependent our economy is on the RE bubble.
April 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM #48996AnonymousGuestAin’t gonna happen; this mess is going to be too large, when combined with Social Stupidity and MediWelfare.
Yep, the wimpy politicians will try to foist this upon the citizenry, but there’s only so much room on the cart, and there ain’t enough room for all of the dead bodies that will come about from the upcoming housing/mortgage collapse.
April 2, 2007 at 9:38 PM #48999citydwellerParticipantBorat,
What are NINJA loans?
April 2, 2007 at 9:59 PM #49001BoratParticipantNINJA stands for “No Income, No Job or Assets”. It’s mortage biz talk. And yes, they really give those loans out, or at least they used to when the bubble was in full swing. AKA “liar loans” or “toxic waste”
April 3, 2007 at 9:18 AM #49046(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantI think Chris J’s point is that this guy will eventually be correct, but doesn’t really deserve credit since he made the call before the most recent doubling in prices.
Reminds me of Alan Greenspan’s famous quip “irrational exubberance” uttered sometime in 1996. He may have eventually been correct. But guess what ? Prices never dropped back down to the level they were at the point he made that speech.
April 3, 2007 at 10:16 AM #49054DaCounselorParticipant“Can you really blame anyone who thought the correction was gonna start earlier?”
____________________________It’s not about blame – it’s about the timing of the call. If, as Chris suggests, this guy was calling for a end to the RE run-up in the early 00’s and someone who was ready, willing and able to buy sat out because they believed in this guy’s call….oh boy. They missed out on what may end up being a once in a lifetime explosion in value. Following this guy’s call cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars. What a disaster. Timing is not everything, but it’s damn important. Being off by 5-6 yrs and hundreds of thousands of dollars is a major, major error no matter how you slice it.
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