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Democracy came alive with Obamacare. I’m not clear what you mean by “purely a democracy”, but if left to my interpretation I take it to mean powerful lobbyist are fundamental to American democracy. Indeed they are!
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Pure democracy is often refereed to as a system where 2 wolves and a sheep vote on which one is for dinner. Pure democracy doesn’t protect minority rights. It lets the majority decide without any checks or balances. I.e. The ban on same sex marriage in CA wouldn’t have been able to be constitutionally challenged.

I don’t see what bearing this has on what the vast majority of Americans, who is their infinite wisdom seem to want, or how either constitutional democracy or animals eating each other is helpful in this debate. Issues regarding same sex marriage and mass murder exist in completely different realms, and a comparison is therefore inappropriate. There is no allowance for constitutional pontificating.

Suppose for a moment the the majority opinion on gun control is to put a massive tax on guns. Make them too expensive for the common man and basically have the effect of banning them. That type of law would be challenged to the supreme court on the basis that it violates the second amendment. In this case the minority who believes in the ability to own guns might win because that right is protected by the 2nd amendment of the constitution.

Yes, we know that and it is part of the problem. Merely stating it doesn’t somehow magically forgive it.

You say this isn’t about the 2nd amendment yet make proposals about laws that attempt to further restrict gun ownership through various means. Hoping to find a clever way of greatly restricting gun ownership without violating the principals of the 2nd amendment.

Tell me what is there to violate? An anachronistic right that is irrelevant to contemporary society, or the sanctity of life? It would be a Knave of Hearts Trial. If the founding fathers were alive to ask, there is little room for doubt as to how they would reply. You either speak for humanity, or your speak for the pro-gun industry. Choose at your peril.
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