Right or wrong about their arguments, that sounds like a nice way of saying Rich was the one under the steamroller.
Actually, I would say it was more of a tie from a ‘debating’ standpoint. The previous Take 5 interview was more of a steamroller job (being steamrollered). Experience always helps, and Rich is new at this.
The point about internal population growth was the only one that Rich did not directly address. Saying that babies do not buy houses, does not address the issue that eventually they do. What is really important is the internal population growth rate, not whether there is a ‘baby’ involved. There will need to be at least two babies to eventually offset the death of the parents in the population.