[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
You stake out your position and argue your points and see who is standing when the dust settles. Then go have a beer or some nice Bogel vino (good choice, BTW).[/quote]

I disagree. I think there is a place for strong language and, absent the time and practice at being an Obama speech writer, sometimes strong words deliver the message. There is a reason “whitey” is afraid of gangsta rap–it’s raw and angry and emotional. If you are going to post bullshit like this topic, you are baiting reasonable minds and have to expect some strong responses.

As for the Bogle, it was probably G’s wife’s turn to pick the wine….