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March 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM #20587March 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM #760712spdrunParticipant
All I can say is that I’d rather cut off my sack with a rusty Cossack dagger than be subjected to HOA board rules in a detached house (different story for a condo in an apartment building, of course).
March 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM #760713allParticipantWe added a room to our house in 4S recently. The CC&R says the work must be completed within 6 months, but there is no ‘or else’. It took few days over 6 months (I spent the first 2 months waiting for the approval from the county and the last two months waiting for painters, the actual construction took 4 weeks) and there was no penalty. The HOA did note that I was late, but they took no action (I expected some of the deposit not to be returned).
I believe the county gave us 2 years to finish.
A friend had some construction done in San Marcos. He went about a week over the limit and he had to pay $500/day in penalties (and he did pay).
March 19, 2013 at 9:52 PM #760719sdduuuudeParticipantThe city rule is that you have to be less than 180 days between inspections.
HOA rules may override this, but if there is no HOA, that is the only requirement I know of to enforce speed.
It means that it could go on for years. Even if there are only 5 or 6 inspections, you can always call for one, fail, and wait 180 days for the next one.
March 19, 2013 at 11:46 PM #760720CA renterParticipant[quote=spdrun]All I can say is that I’d rather cut off my sack with a rusty Cossack dagger than be subjected to HOA board rules in a detached house (different story for a condo in an apartment building, of course).[/quote]
+1
Not that I don’t have empathy for Happs’ situation (been there, done that, and have had to put up with much, much worse), it’s just that HOAs tend to be far too intrusive, IMHO.
March 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM #760744(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant[quote=spdrun]All I can say is that I’d rather cut off my sack with a rusty Cossack dagger than be subjected to HOA board rules in a detached house (different story for a condo in an apartment building, of course).[/quote]
I have to agree 100%.
Also, the suggestions by the OP sound pretty naive. It’s as if the author assumes that construction time lines are predictable, on-time, and controlled by the owner. That’s hilarious.
March 20, 2013 at 12:04 PM #760750The-ShovelerParticipantHOA for SFH’s was a really stupid Idea in the first place.
Alas it is almost impossible to find new housing without HOA’s.
March 20, 2013 at 12:09 PM #760751spdrunParticipantWhat exactly is the advantage of a new house, as opposed to an older one in an established neighborhood? Apart from the “lookit me, meeeeeesa want” factor, of course?
As a New Yorker, I’m USED to 50-100+ year old stuff; some of it is even more desirable than new construction.
March 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM #760757The-ShovelerParticipantIn California, the new homes are generally built to much high standards than the tract homes built from the 60’s to the 90’s.
Also there is generally much better work done on the lot preps then there were in the 60’s and 70’s.
Some old custom built and such are still a find however.
March 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM #760764bearishgurlParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]In California, the new homes are generally built to much high standards than the tract homes built from the 60’s to the 90’s.
Also there is generally much better work done on the lot preps then there were in the 60’s and 70’s.
Some old custom built and such are still a find however.[/quote]
Perhaps, Shoveler, but bear in mind that the tracts built in the 00’s often have 12 or more SFR units to an AC as opposed to the ’60’s to ’90’s tracts of 3-10 SFR units to an AC.
The time spent “precision grading” a group of subdivided parcels is proportional to how many separate pads and thus “elevations” (for homes) will be built on it. In the ’00’s, this was frequently “zero lot lines” or six feet apart for a new home costing the same as their ’60’s to ’90’s counterpart (with a 7500 sf lot).
March 21, 2013 at 9:29 PM #760813HappsParticipantOne of the reasons why I live in an HOA is to have stricter quality of life rules and better maintenance of a neighborhood that what a city council can offer me. It’s past 9:00pm now and the remodeling crew is still working with spotlights shining in the garage and construction tools scattered all about. Construction hours end at 5:00pm, but these violations continue as the remodeling is in its eight month on a 2,000sq/ft tract house.
March 21, 2013 at 9:39 PM #760814spdrunParticipantHave you lifted a pinky to actually TALK to the owners and/or the crew foreman? Often if you actually communicate to people that they’re being asshats, there’s no need for cops or an HOA.
HOAs in detached SFR developments are just substitutes for handling your problems face-to-face, as would happen in any non-HOA area.
March 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM #760820HappsParticipantThe recorded owner who I have never seen lives out of state and I am 95% sure he hasn’t ever been on-site to look at or oversee the remodel. The crew foreman keeps giving neighbors bogus answers or empty promises on the completion date. I remember in December he said the house would be finished by Christmas, then the first week of February he said two weeks, then on March 1 he said two weeks, etc. I’ve mentioned the prolonged remodel time and hours violations to the board, but they seem to look the other way and don’t want to take any action. Hence, my suggestion of a rule on time limits for remodels. I don’t want other owners to follow suit and spend 8 or more months on a remodel that should take three months max, giving lots of people grief along the way. A neighborhood shouldn’t be a perpetual construction zone. I’m not an HOA gestapo type person. A weed or two in front yard doesn’t ruin my day nor does a car parked on the street overnight. Hearing construction noise, workers working past 5:00pm, working on Sundays and Holidays in violation of the CC&R’s, for 8 months does.
March 21, 2013 at 11:14 PM #760822CA renterParticipantOTOH, if they don’t work longer hours, past the “allowable” construction times, then it might take them even longer to complete the job…possibly adding weeks or months to the job. It might be a good idea to choose one complaint or the other: either construction during the evening/weekends, or having the total duration of the project go on for too long. These are opposing complaints, and “fixing” one will likely make the other worse.
March 22, 2013 at 9:35 AM #760829allParticipant[quote=Happs]One of the reasons why I live in an HOA is to have stricter quality of life rules and better maintenance of a neighborhood that what a city council can offer me. It’s past 9:00pm now and the remodeling crew is still working with spotlights shining in the garage and construction tools scattered all about. Construction hours end at 5:00pm, but these violations continue as the remodeling is in its eight month on a 2,000sq/ft tract house.[/quote]
It is against the code to operate construction equipment between 7pm and 7am.
http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/pds/docs/NO-408.pdf
What city are you in?
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