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January 6, 2010 at 4:29 PM #16877January 6, 2010 at 5:03 PM #499624sd_mattParticipant
Natural gas injected into diesels is an old idea. You save money because the natural gas is cheaper per btu. In addition it burns cleaner and extends the life of the engine.
The problem with it is a low power density. You need a big fuel tank.
This article seems to claim that you can mix these two fuels and surpass the second law of thermodynamics.
January 6, 2010 at 5:03 PM #500516sd_mattParticipantNatural gas injected into diesels is an old idea. You save money because the natural gas is cheaper per btu. In addition it burns cleaner and extends the life of the engine.
The problem with it is a low power density. You need a big fuel tank.
This article seems to claim that you can mix these two fuels and surpass the second law of thermodynamics.
January 6, 2010 at 5:03 PM #500264sd_mattParticipantNatural gas injected into diesels is an old idea. You save money because the natural gas is cheaper per btu. In addition it burns cleaner and extends the life of the engine.
The problem with it is a low power density. You need a big fuel tank.
This article seems to claim that you can mix these two fuels and surpass the second law of thermodynamics.
January 6, 2010 at 5:03 PM #500171sd_mattParticipantNatural gas injected into diesels is an old idea. You save money because the natural gas is cheaper per btu. In addition it burns cleaner and extends the life of the engine.
The problem with it is a low power density. You need a big fuel tank.
This article seems to claim that you can mix these two fuels and surpass the second law of thermodynamics.
January 6, 2010 at 5:03 PM #499777sd_mattParticipantNatural gas injected into diesels is an old idea. You save money because the natural gas is cheaper per btu. In addition it burns cleaner and extends the life of the engine.
The problem with it is a low power density. You need a big fuel tank.
This article seems to claim that you can mix these two fuels and surpass the second law of thermodynamics.
January 6, 2010 at 5:29 PM #499782Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantUnfortunately I think the diesel plug-in concept will only take hold after a year or more of 4 + dollar gas.
I would love to buy a 20K electric plug-in that I could drive 40 freeway miles on just the batteries.I would probably only add liquid fuel maybe once every six months at that point, add a few solar panels on the roof not to mention without the most troubled part of the car (the transmission) the maintenance bills would go down as well I would think.
Talk about disruptive tech though, I guess gas stations could still sell a lot of coffee in the morning , but they would need to improve on that as well.
January 6, 2010 at 5:29 PM #500521Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantUnfortunately I think the diesel plug-in concept will only take hold after a year or more of 4 + dollar gas.
I would love to buy a 20K electric plug-in that I could drive 40 freeway miles on just the batteries.I would probably only add liquid fuel maybe once every six months at that point, add a few solar panels on the roof not to mention without the most troubled part of the car (the transmission) the maintenance bills would go down as well I would think.
Talk about disruptive tech though, I guess gas stations could still sell a lot of coffee in the morning , but they would need to improve on that as well.
January 6, 2010 at 5:29 PM #499629Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantUnfortunately I think the diesel plug-in concept will only take hold after a year or more of 4 + dollar gas.
I would love to buy a 20K electric plug-in that I could drive 40 freeway miles on just the batteries.I would probably only add liquid fuel maybe once every six months at that point, add a few solar panels on the roof not to mention without the most troubled part of the car (the transmission) the maintenance bills would go down as well I would think.
Talk about disruptive tech though, I guess gas stations could still sell a lot of coffee in the morning , but they would need to improve on that as well.
January 6, 2010 at 5:29 PM #500269Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantUnfortunately I think the diesel plug-in concept will only take hold after a year or more of 4 + dollar gas.
I would love to buy a 20K electric plug-in that I could drive 40 freeway miles on just the batteries.I would probably only add liquid fuel maybe once every six months at that point, add a few solar panels on the roof not to mention without the most troubled part of the car (the transmission) the maintenance bills would go down as well I would think.
Talk about disruptive tech though, I guess gas stations could still sell a lot of coffee in the morning , but they would need to improve on that as well.
January 6, 2010 at 5:29 PM #500176Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantUnfortunately I think the diesel plug-in concept will only take hold after a year or more of 4 + dollar gas.
I would love to buy a 20K electric plug-in that I could drive 40 freeway miles on just the batteries.I would probably only add liquid fuel maybe once every six months at that point, add a few solar panels on the roof not to mention without the most troubled part of the car (the transmission) the maintenance bills would go down as well I would think.
Talk about disruptive tech though, I guess gas stations could still sell a lot of coffee in the morning , but they would need to improve on that as well.
January 6, 2010 at 8:26 PM #500331EugeneParticipantI don’t think it’s possible to make Hummer H3 go 60 miles per gallon through drivetrain mods, no matter how many turbines or supercapacitors you put in. Aerodynamics simply isn’t there.
For many modern cars, 50 mpg highway is the limit. For SUVs, it’s less.
But you can achieve a lot more if you couple drivetrain mods with some sensible exterior mods:
January 6, 2010 at 8:26 PM #499841EugeneParticipantI don’t think it’s possible to make Hummer H3 go 60 miles per gallon through drivetrain mods, no matter how many turbines or supercapacitors you put in. Aerodynamics simply isn’t there.
For many modern cars, 50 mpg highway is the limit. For SUVs, it’s less.
But you can achieve a lot more if you couple drivetrain mods with some sensible exterior mods:
January 6, 2010 at 8:26 PM #500580EugeneParticipantI don’t think it’s possible to make Hummer H3 go 60 miles per gallon through drivetrain mods, no matter how many turbines or supercapacitors you put in. Aerodynamics simply isn’t there.
For many modern cars, 50 mpg highway is the limit. For SUVs, it’s less.
But you can achieve a lot more if you couple drivetrain mods with some sensible exterior mods:
January 6, 2010 at 8:26 PM #500236EugeneParticipantI don’t think it’s possible to make Hummer H3 go 60 miles per gallon through drivetrain mods, no matter how many turbines or supercapacitors you put in. Aerodynamics simply isn’t there.
For many modern cars, 50 mpg highway is the limit. For SUVs, it’s less.
But you can achieve a lot more if you couple drivetrain mods with some sensible exterior mods:
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