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June 11, 2009 at 10:23 AM #15865June 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM #413791(former)FormerSanDieganParticipant
To some extent it depends how large this loan is relative to your other assets. If you have a net worth of 2x or 3x this loan amount AND the maximum payment on this loan at 8.375% is less than 25 -30% of your income, then the risk of keeping the ARM is small.
Otherwise, figure out what the ARM rate would reset to such that your savings from going to a fixed rate is paid for over 5 years.
I’m gonna make a quickly stab at this:
Suppose it costs 4000 to refi (2850 in points, another 1150 in appraisal, title and other fees)
Your fixed rate payment would be : 1005.
TO pay for the 4000 over 4 years, you would need to save about $83 per month. That corrwesponds to an ARM rate at about 5.625%.
To come out ahead on a refinance over the next 4 years the ARM would have to average more than 5.625%. That’s 1.5% above today’s level, which is likely.
I would take the fixed rate.
June 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM #414031(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantTo some extent it depends how large this loan is relative to your other assets. If you have a net worth of 2x or 3x this loan amount AND the maximum payment on this loan at 8.375% is less than 25 -30% of your income, then the risk of keeping the ARM is small.
Otherwise, figure out what the ARM rate would reset to such that your savings from going to a fixed rate is paid for over 5 years.
I’m gonna make a quickly stab at this:
Suppose it costs 4000 to refi (2850 in points, another 1150 in appraisal, title and other fees)
Your fixed rate payment would be : 1005.
TO pay for the 4000 over 4 years, you would need to save about $83 per month. That corrwesponds to an ARM rate at about 5.625%.
To come out ahead on a refinance over the next 4 years the ARM would have to average more than 5.625%. That’s 1.5% above today’s level, which is likely.
I would take the fixed rate.
June 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM #414281(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantTo some extent it depends how large this loan is relative to your other assets. If you have a net worth of 2x or 3x this loan amount AND the maximum payment on this loan at 8.375% is less than 25 -30% of your income, then the risk of keeping the ARM is small.
Otherwise, figure out what the ARM rate would reset to such that your savings from going to a fixed rate is paid for over 5 years.
I’m gonna make a quickly stab at this:
Suppose it costs 4000 to refi (2850 in points, another 1150 in appraisal, title and other fees)
Your fixed rate payment would be : 1005.
TO pay for the 4000 over 4 years, you would need to save about $83 per month. That corrwesponds to an ARM rate at about 5.625%.
To come out ahead on a refinance over the next 4 years the ARM would have to average more than 5.625%. That’s 1.5% above today’s level, which is likely.
I would take the fixed rate.
June 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM #414350(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantTo some extent it depends how large this loan is relative to your other assets. If you have a net worth of 2x or 3x this loan amount AND the maximum payment on this loan at 8.375% is less than 25 -30% of your income, then the risk of keeping the ARM is small.
Otherwise, figure out what the ARM rate would reset to such that your savings from going to a fixed rate is paid for over 5 years.
I’m gonna make a quickly stab at this:
Suppose it costs 4000 to refi (2850 in points, another 1150 in appraisal, title and other fees)
Your fixed rate payment would be : 1005.
TO pay for the 4000 over 4 years, you would need to save about $83 per month. That corrwesponds to an ARM rate at about 5.625%.
To come out ahead on a refinance over the next 4 years the ARM would have to average more than 5.625%. That’s 1.5% above today’s level, which is likely.
I would take the fixed rate.
June 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM #414504(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantTo some extent it depends how large this loan is relative to your other assets. If you have a net worth of 2x or 3x this loan amount AND the maximum payment on this loan at 8.375% is less than 25 -30% of your income, then the risk of keeping the ARM is small.
Otherwise, figure out what the ARM rate would reset to such that your savings from going to a fixed rate is paid for over 5 years.
I’m gonna make a quickly stab at this:
Suppose it costs 4000 to refi (2850 in points, another 1150 in appraisal, title and other fees)
Your fixed rate payment would be : 1005.
TO pay for the 4000 over 4 years, you would need to save about $83 per month. That corrwesponds to an ARM rate at about 5.625%.
To come out ahead on a refinance over the next 4 years the ARM would have to average more than 5.625%. That’s 1.5% above today’s level, which is likely.
I would take the fixed rate.
June 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM #413806temeculaguyParticipantThe fixed rate may help you sleep better in the coming years. Nobody knows exactly what will happen but the risk of inflation and/or higher rates is real. I can’t say when or how high, but there are a lot of possibilities and even more variables. There are no variables with a fixed rate. After reading Former’s analysis, I agree, go fixed, betting that rates average below 5.625% over 4 years doesn’t sound like a safe bet. It may feel like that now but looking back over my lifetime, sub 6% were rare periods and rarely sustained, probably equal to the amount of time it was double digits.
June 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM #414046temeculaguyParticipantThe fixed rate may help you sleep better in the coming years. Nobody knows exactly what will happen but the risk of inflation and/or higher rates is real. I can’t say when or how high, but there are a lot of possibilities and even more variables. There are no variables with a fixed rate. After reading Former’s analysis, I agree, go fixed, betting that rates average below 5.625% over 4 years doesn’t sound like a safe bet. It may feel like that now but looking back over my lifetime, sub 6% were rare periods and rarely sustained, probably equal to the amount of time it was double digits.
June 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM #414296temeculaguyParticipantThe fixed rate may help you sleep better in the coming years. Nobody knows exactly what will happen but the risk of inflation and/or higher rates is real. I can’t say when or how high, but there are a lot of possibilities and even more variables. There are no variables with a fixed rate. After reading Former’s analysis, I agree, go fixed, betting that rates average below 5.625% over 4 years doesn’t sound like a safe bet. It may feel like that now but looking back over my lifetime, sub 6% were rare periods and rarely sustained, probably equal to the amount of time it was double digits.
June 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM #414365temeculaguyParticipantThe fixed rate may help you sleep better in the coming years. Nobody knows exactly what will happen but the risk of inflation and/or higher rates is real. I can’t say when or how high, but there are a lot of possibilities and even more variables. There are no variables with a fixed rate. After reading Former’s analysis, I agree, go fixed, betting that rates average below 5.625% over 4 years doesn’t sound like a safe bet. It may feel like that now but looking back over my lifetime, sub 6% were rare periods and rarely sustained, probably equal to the amount of time it was double digits.
June 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM #414518temeculaguyParticipantThe fixed rate may help you sleep better in the coming years. Nobody knows exactly what will happen but the risk of inflation and/or higher rates is real. I can’t say when or how high, but there are a lot of possibilities and even more variables. There are no variables with a fixed rate. After reading Former’s analysis, I agree, go fixed, betting that rates average below 5.625% over 4 years doesn’t sound like a safe bet. It may feel like that now but looking back over my lifetime, sub 6% were rare periods and rarely sustained, probably equal to the amount of time it was double digits.
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