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April 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM #12543April 24, 2008 at 1:09 AM #193498gdcoxParticipant
Graham
The main reason for this is the very sudden withdrawal over a month or two of the majority of mortgage products, the sharp tightening of criteria and the fact that £ Libor ( the banks’ main source of marginal funding until now) has been going up even as official interest rates fall. Essentially all UK lending is ARM, though teaser two year initial fixes were the norm. We have our own version of the reset drama in the US because those who kept hopping provider to use two year teasers very suddenly find there is nowhere to hop to next. Chains are collapsing because first time buyers , sub-prime and those who want high loan to value are disappearing form the base of buyer chains . Finally, there has been no over-building of single homes , but there has been of apartment blocks in city centres which are is very serious trouble Mind you the market for multi-million pound flats in London is as strong as ever. All those wheat barons from the prairies !!
The impact of the very sudden constriction on supply of mortgages was this news this morning……….
‘Persimmon, Britain’s biggest housebuilder by market capitalisation, on Thursday said it had suspended construction work on new sites and said it expected a 24 per cent fall in sales revenues this year.’
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f61aedb6-11cd-11dd-9b49-0000779fd2ac.htmlApril 24, 2008 at 1:09 AM #193527gdcoxParticipantGraham
The main reason for this is the very sudden withdrawal over a month or two of the majority of mortgage products, the sharp tightening of criteria and the fact that £ Libor ( the banks’ main source of marginal funding until now) has been going up even as official interest rates fall. Essentially all UK lending is ARM, though teaser two year initial fixes were the norm. We have our own version of the reset drama in the US because those who kept hopping provider to use two year teasers very suddenly find there is nowhere to hop to next. Chains are collapsing because first time buyers , sub-prime and those who want high loan to value are disappearing form the base of buyer chains . Finally, there has been no over-building of single homes , but there has been of apartment blocks in city centres which are is very serious trouble Mind you the market for multi-million pound flats in London is as strong as ever. All those wheat barons from the prairies !!
The impact of the very sudden constriction on supply of mortgages was this news this morning……….
‘Persimmon, Britain’s biggest housebuilder by market capitalisation, on Thursday said it had suspended construction work on new sites and said it expected a 24 per cent fall in sales revenues this year.’
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f61aedb6-11cd-11dd-9b49-0000779fd2ac.htmlApril 24, 2008 at 1:09 AM #193554gdcoxParticipantGraham
The main reason for this is the very sudden withdrawal over a month or two of the majority of mortgage products, the sharp tightening of criteria and the fact that £ Libor ( the banks’ main source of marginal funding until now) has been going up even as official interest rates fall. Essentially all UK lending is ARM, though teaser two year initial fixes were the norm. We have our own version of the reset drama in the US because those who kept hopping provider to use two year teasers very suddenly find there is nowhere to hop to next. Chains are collapsing because first time buyers , sub-prime and those who want high loan to value are disappearing form the base of buyer chains . Finally, there has been no over-building of single homes , but there has been of apartment blocks in city centres which are is very serious trouble Mind you the market for multi-million pound flats in London is as strong as ever. All those wheat barons from the prairies !!
The impact of the very sudden constriction on supply of mortgages was this news this morning……….
‘Persimmon, Britain’s biggest housebuilder by market capitalisation, on Thursday said it had suspended construction work on new sites and said it expected a 24 per cent fall in sales revenues this year.’
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f61aedb6-11cd-11dd-9b49-0000779fd2ac.htmlApril 24, 2008 at 1:09 AM #193569gdcoxParticipantGraham
The main reason for this is the very sudden withdrawal over a month or two of the majority of mortgage products, the sharp tightening of criteria and the fact that £ Libor ( the banks’ main source of marginal funding until now) has been going up even as official interest rates fall. Essentially all UK lending is ARM, though teaser two year initial fixes were the norm. We have our own version of the reset drama in the US because those who kept hopping provider to use two year teasers very suddenly find there is nowhere to hop to next. Chains are collapsing because first time buyers , sub-prime and those who want high loan to value are disappearing form the base of buyer chains . Finally, there has been no over-building of single homes , but there has been of apartment blocks in city centres which are is very serious trouble Mind you the market for multi-million pound flats in London is as strong as ever. All those wheat barons from the prairies !!
The impact of the very sudden constriction on supply of mortgages was this news this morning……….
‘Persimmon, Britain’s biggest housebuilder by market capitalisation, on Thursday said it had suspended construction work on new sites and said it expected a 24 per cent fall in sales revenues this year.’
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f61aedb6-11cd-11dd-9b49-0000779fd2ac.htmlApril 24, 2008 at 1:09 AM #193615gdcoxParticipantGraham
The main reason for this is the very sudden withdrawal over a month or two of the majority of mortgage products, the sharp tightening of criteria and the fact that £ Libor ( the banks’ main source of marginal funding until now) has been going up even as official interest rates fall. Essentially all UK lending is ARM, though teaser two year initial fixes were the norm. We have our own version of the reset drama in the US because those who kept hopping provider to use two year teasers very suddenly find there is nowhere to hop to next. Chains are collapsing because first time buyers , sub-prime and those who want high loan to value are disappearing form the base of buyer chains . Finally, there has been no over-building of single homes , but there has been of apartment blocks in city centres which are is very serious trouble Mind you the market for multi-million pound flats in London is as strong as ever. All those wheat barons from the prairies !!
The impact of the very sudden constriction on supply of mortgages was this news this morning……….
‘Persimmon, Britain’s biggest housebuilder by market capitalisation, on Thursday said it had suspended construction work on new sites and said it expected a 24 per cent fall in sales revenues this year.’
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f61aedb6-11cd-11dd-9b49-0000779fd2ac.htmlApril 24, 2008 at 8:15 AM #19360334f3f3fParticipantThis all comes as no surprise. I remember that lovely product called an endowment mortgage. Any forecasts for banks getting into difficulty, and is Commercial RE having (likely to have) problems of the same scale?
I understand that Northern Rock is using a charity in Jersey (which came as a bit of a surprise to the charity), to funnel the top layer of business into a holding company called Granite, who would reciprocate by providing funds to write more business. It’s said that it the conveyor belt stops, Northern Rock won’t be able to honor it’s bailout loan. Moreover, many Northern Rock customers are rather peeved that all the crap as left onshore, while the best business was moved offshore presumably out of reach.
April 24, 2008 at 8:15 AM #19363234f3f3fParticipantThis all comes as no surprise. I remember that lovely product called an endowment mortgage. Any forecasts for banks getting into difficulty, and is Commercial RE having (likely to have) problems of the same scale?
I understand that Northern Rock is using a charity in Jersey (which came as a bit of a surprise to the charity), to funnel the top layer of business into a holding company called Granite, who would reciprocate by providing funds to write more business. It’s said that it the conveyor belt stops, Northern Rock won’t be able to honor it’s bailout loan. Moreover, many Northern Rock customers are rather peeved that all the crap as left onshore, while the best business was moved offshore presumably out of reach.
April 24, 2008 at 8:15 AM #19366034f3f3fParticipantThis all comes as no surprise. I remember that lovely product called an endowment mortgage. Any forecasts for banks getting into difficulty, and is Commercial RE having (likely to have) problems of the same scale?
I understand that Northern Rock is using a charity in Jersey (which came as a bit of a surprise to the charity), to funnel the top layer of business into a holding company called Granite, who would reciprocate by providing funds to write more business. It’s said that it the conveyor belt stops, Northern Rock won’t be able to honor it’s bailout loan. Moreover, many Northern Rock customers are rather peeved that all the crap as left onshore, while the best business was moved offshore presumably out of reach.
April 24, 2008 at 8:15 AM #19367534f3f3fParticipantThis all comes as no surprise. I remember that lovely product called an endowment mortgage. Any forecasts for banks getting into difficulty, and is Commercial RE having (likely to have) problems of the same scale?
I understand that Northern Rock is using a charity in Jersey (which came as a bit of a surprise to the charity), to funnel the top layer of business into a holding company called Granite, who would reciprocate by providing funds to write more business. It’s said that it the conveyor belt stops, Northern Rock won’t be able to honor it’s bailout loan. Moreover, many Northern Rock customers are rather peeved that all the crap as left onshore, while the best business was moved offshore presumably out of reach.
April 24, 2008 at 8:15 AM #19372034f3f3fParticipantThis all comes as no surprise. I remember that lovely product called an endowment mortgage. Any forecasts for banks getting into difficulty, and is Commercial RE having (likely to have) problems of the same scale?
I understand that Northern Rock is using a charity in Jersey (which came as a bit of a surprise to the charity), to funnel the top layer of business into a holding company called Granite, who would reciprocate by providing funds to write more business. It’s said that it the conveyor belt stops, Northern Rock won’t be able to honor it’s bailout loan. Moreover, many Northern Rock customers are rather peeved that all the crap as left onshore, while the best business was moved offshore presumably out of reach.
April 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM #193663gdcoxParticipantGraham
I don’t have the details on that . However, NR is just a government department now with happy depositors being paid high rates of interest. Mortgage customers are being shown the door in effect.Commercial real estate has been the first sector to go in the UK. It is about 15% off across the board ( over 6 months) and more can be expected as rental growth stops and probably reverses.
April 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM #193693gdcoxParticipantGraham
I don’t have the details on that . However, NR is just a government department now with happy depositors being paid high rates of interest. Mortgage customers are being shown the door in effect.Commercial real estate has been the first sector to go in the UK. It is about 15% off across the board ( over 6 months) and more can be expected as rental growth stops and probably reverses.
April 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM #193722gdcoxParticipantGraham
I don’t have the details on that . However, NR is just a government department now with happy depositors being paid high rates of interest. Mortgage customers are being shown the door in effect.Commercial real estate has been the first sector to go in the UK. It is about 15% off across the board ( over 6 months) and more can be expected as rental growth stops and probably reverses.
April 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM #193735gdcoxParticipantGraham
I don’t have the details on that . However, NR is just a government department now with happy depositors being paid high rates of interest. Mortgage customers are being shown the door in effect.Commercial real estate has been the first sector to go in the UK. It is about 15% off across the board ( over 6 months) and more can be expected as rental growth stops and probably reverses.
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