Skyranch in Santee

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Submitted by sunny88 on March 1, 2009 - 12:43am

The homes at Skyranch in Santee are very "reasonably" priced compared to other new homes in San Diego and there is no Mello Roos. I would like to see if anybody in this forum has bought a home in this development or if anybody has an opinion if they are a good value. Also, will home prices in Santee go up faster than other parts of SD?

Submitted by justsayin1964 on March 4, 2010 - 2:40pm.

I hope you are not referring to me- I have nothing to do with that Sky ranch owner (realtor/salesman/pitch person)
I'd vouch for Santee but I am not begging anyone to move there. I like that its a small community and hope it never turns into CV.

Submitted by sdrealtor on March 4, 2010 - 3:45pm.

It is fascinating how vocally supportive almost patriotic they are of their community.

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on March 4, 2010 - 3:59pm.

I was just trying to give everyone my opinion as an owner up here in Sky Ranch. I had to do a lot of research before we bought, so I'm just sharing what I found out about Santee in the process. Everyone else must make their own informed decision. I'm just trying to help.

Opinions are a dime a dozen, right?!

LOL on the 10-15 mintues to La Jolla! I didn't realize it was an inside joke. No way could you make it to La Jolla in 10-15 minutes unless you were driving super fast. Here is an analysis, not based on opinion:

According to Google maps it's 20.5 miles, just about all Freeway except on leaving Sky Ranch and entering La Jolla Shores.

At 60 mph, on avg, that's about 30 minutes

At 70 mph, on avg, that's about 18 minutes

At 80 mph, on avg, that's about 15 minutes

At 100 mph, on avg, with Radar, that's about 12 minutes!!!!

If you're daring, you could drive 200 mph and get there in about 6 minutes.
:-p

So, for anyone saying you can't get there in 10-15 minutes, it all depends on how fast you drive. No traffic and all green lights, mostly 52 freeway, and at 100 mph, on avg, yes you could! 12 minutes to be exact.

Submitted by flu on March 4, 2010 - 5:07pm.

justsayin1964 wrote:
I hope you are not referring to me- I have nothing to do with that Sky ranch owner (realtor/salesman/pitch person)
I'd vouch for Santee but I am not begging anyone to move there. I like that its a small community and hope it never turns into CV.

No no, not any of you folks on this thread....Long timers have an inside joke on Santee. Not so much the area as so much about some claims for supporting it... Even how little time it takes to get to La Jolla.

A trip down memory lane....Sorry, back in my more youthful years, I tended to be much more of an ass. Now I'm just three quarters of an ass.

http://piggington.com/overpriced_homes_i...

Quote:

As a matter of fact I live in Santee, and grew up here. Your perceptions are somewhat delusional. As everywhere there are drugs in Santee. However, Santee boasts one of the lowest crimerates in San diego county. We also have above average schools..

"No point in living 30-40 miles from the nice parts of San Diego. I betcha the commute on the 52 from Santee is an absolute nightmare. "

NOPE, not really, there is traffic but it keeps moving.

The commute to downtown is like 20 minutes. La Jolla is 10 minutes. You don't live here and you don't have a clue to what you are talking about.

It's desert hot, 2 months out of the year. It sucks! (You have to have air conditioning, and a pool.)

No place is perfect. For the money, it is in my opinion the best buy in the county. Good schools, safe neighborhoods, nice homes, short commute.)

Wink wink...

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on March 4, 2010 - 8:07pm.

flu, thanks for the link to the old thread...

That was classic! And very entertaining...

Nothing like 3 years later talking about the same stuff!

Submitted by UCGal on March 5, 2010 - 9:07am.

Too funny about the old thread.

Reading these claims of 10-15 minutes to the beach crack me up. I live in UC - which is a heck of a lot closer to La Jolla shores... It takes us at least 10 minutes. Google Maps estimates 12 minutes. 2 miles by crow = 5 miles by car and there are pesky stop lights/stop signs, speed limits, narrow streets by the shores parking lot. Unless you live, literally, on the free entrance - it's going to take you 25-30 minutes from Santee.

I've heard people call University City "La Jolla Adjacent" - always cracked me up. Never thought I'd here someone imply Santee was La Jolla Adjacent.

I don't have any problem with Santee as a community. Like I said - an extended family member is actively looking at homes there because they are more affordable, but still a decent commute.

But the odds of Las Colinas being moved are about the same odds as Miramar shutting down (the negative issue of my neighborhood.) They're both there to stay. They've been there too long to expect otherwise.

Submitted by sdrealtor on March 5, 2010 - 9:11am.

Ahhhhh the memory did not fail me, it was 10 minutes. Now if I could just find my keys and get outta here.

Submitted by PKMAN on March 26, 2010 - 9:26pm.

Been living in Santee for about a year now and really like it. We looked at houses in MM and RB in late 2008 but found them to be expensive ($550K+) and kind of old. For about $100K less, we were able to buy a brand new single family house (2,100sqft) in Santee, 1.1% tax, no MR and only $108 HOA.

Both my wife and I work in the Serra Mesa area, so Santee is very convenient. MM would've been a bit closer but MM Blvd is much more congested than Mission Gorge Rd. RB is further.

Santee is not the best community in SD (to me that'd be Coronado) but for my affordability, distant to work and the fact that it's a brand new house, I'm very happy to live here.

Submitted by AN on March 26, 2010 - 10:26pm.

PKMAN, do you mind telling me how big is your lot?

Submitted by kcal09 on March 26, 2010 - 10:47pm.

PKMAN wrote:
Been living in Santee for about a year now and really like it. We looked at houses in MM and RB in late 2008 but found them to be expensive ($550K+) and kind of old. For about $100K less, we were able to buy a brand new single family house (2,100sqft) in Santee, 1.1% tax, no MR and only $108 HOA.

Both my wife and I work in the Serra Mesa area, so Santee is very convenient. MM would've been a bit closer but MM Blvd is much more congested than Mission Gorge Rd. RB is further.

Santee is not the best community in SD (to me that'd be Coronado) but for my affordability, distant to work and the fact that it's a brand new house, I'm very happy to live here.

Why is Coronado better than any other place?

Submitted by PKMAN on March 27, 2010 - 12:47pm.

AN wrote:
PKMAN, do you mind telling me how big is your lot?

It's pretty small, only about 40'x80'. But the upside of it is that we don't need to hire landscaping people to maintain it. I bought a $200 electric lawn mower and it does the job just fine. Because it's a new home, it comes with automatic sprinkler system with expansion capability.

Our dog doesn't like to play in the back yard (too small) but our community has a big grass area for him to run around freely, just a short walk away.

Riverwalk is a great community with friendly neighbors. My wife worked out at YMCA just across the street, before she started working. Next to YMCA is Rio Secco (K-8) so if we have a kid it'd be super convenient.

Submitted by PKMAN on March 27, 2010 - 12:54pm.

kcal09 wrote:
Why is Coronado better than any other place?

I just like it. If I was to live there (somewhere central), I don't think I'd want to go anywhere else on weekend, or drive. I'd just walk to shops, restaurants, beach and other places. The cool ocean breeze makes even the hottest summer days very comfortable.

One thing about Santee is that it's damn hot. Because it situated in a valley, temperature here is hotter than MM, RB or most other middle-class residential communities. Another good thing about buying a new home is that it comes with energy-efficient windows (dual-pane insulated) and A/C. It makes living in Santee during the summer much more comfortable and cost-effective.

Submitted by flu on April 30, 2010 - 7:05pm.

SkyRanchOwner wrote:
I wanted to respond to some of your comments...

.......

As far as the Las Colinas Women's Dentention Center/Jail. That was a concern of ours too, yet it is a women's only facility. Plus, there are current lawsuits filed by the City of Santee and the Developers of Riverwalk to have the jail relocated. There has been recent talk of the proposal to expand and update the facility, yet the Santee community is pushing to have it relocated. This is a facility that is left over from the 60's. Here is a link for more info:
http://nojailexpansion.com/

Also read here:
http://www.ci.santee.ca.us/Modules/ShowD...

As another note, there is a small Farmer's market held off of Mission Gorge near Magnolia where you can get fresh fruit, vegetables and other items:
http://mysandiego411.com/farmersmarket/s...

The issue of buying a new home is big to me because all the plumbing, electrical, framing, etc. is brand new. There are no issues with having to remodel, fix plumbing or electrical problems, etc. I walk in, paint, plant my furniture, and have time to do other things.

We figured out of all the areas, the pricing here seems the most reasonable without having to have a major commute like living in San Marcos or Chula Vista. Lennar has discounting the prices to match the current market, so you are less likely to have much depreciation. Check trulia's real estate statistics on your own. Also, Sky Ranch is a unique community. Once it builds and sells out, it will be hard to find a house for sale.
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Santee...

I've gone through many of the thoughts being discussed here, and we decided to buy. We have been even more pleased after our purchase here in Sky Ranch.

I guess this didn't go the way planned...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/...

Jail land to be acquired by eminent domain
Legal action OK’d for expanded Las Colinas facility

By Michele Clock, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, April 30, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

SANTEE — An effort to replace the region’s only all-female jail — an endeavor that has drawn three lawsuits — has become even more complicated.

County supervisors this week voted 4-1, with Dianne Jacob dissenting, to use eminent domain to take control of about 15 acres in Santee needed for the new Las Colinas Detention Facility. Although the county currently owns the land, it is trying to seize the development rights on the acreage from Minneapolis-based developer Ryan Cos., which is developing a mixed-use project on more than 100 acres in the area.

County officials said they have tried to negotiate with Ryan. Now they plan to proceed with the new legal action in San Diego Superior Court in the coming weeks.

The county wants to have a new, 1,216-bed jail operating in late 2014 or early 2015. The 45-acre facility would replace the current 16-acre grounds, which date to the 1960s.

“The county must acquire Ryan’s development rights so the project can proceed,” April Heinze, the county’s director of general services, told the supervisors at a meeting Tuesday.

Ryan officials declined to comment, but an attorney representing the company argued at the meeting that the county had not met the legal requirements necessary to move ahead with eminent domain.

Replacement of Las Colinas is at the top of the county’s infrastructure to-do list. Officials have said the new jail is badly needed to relieve overcrowding, and numerous county grand juries have called for its replacement.

“I think I’ve been called at least three or four times to the grand jury to talk about this,” Supervisor Ron Roberts said at Tuesday’s meeting. “I would like to see this move.”

Not everyone wants to see a new jail. Residents and Santee city officials have fought strenuously against the expansion in recent years, arguing that the East County suburb is no longer an appropriate location for a jail considering the city’s growth and development. They have said a new facility would undermine the city’s economic progress and lower property values.

Both the city of Santee and Ryan Cos. filed lawsuits last year alleging that the county violated state environmental law by not adequately analyzing the project’s effects before approving the plans in 2009. The cases have been consolidated and are working their way through San Diego Superior Court, said Deborah McCarthy, chief deputy county counsel.

Santee is also appealing a decision on a separate case in which it challenged the county’s handling of a $100 million state grant to replace the jail. That grant and county funds are expected to cover the cost of the new facility.

Submitted by bearishgurl on May 1, 2010 - 4:23pm.

UCGal wrote:
Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It's already in Santee - and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas - they're going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I'm not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn't be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/...

(I noticed Flu's post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the "location, location, location" test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee's surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar's purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC - 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an "HOA."

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as "economic obsolescence."

Submitted by kcal09 on May 1, 2010 - 10:39pm.

bearishgurl wrote:
UCGal wrote:
Your kidding about them moving Las Colinas, right?

NO neighborhood wants a prison in their backyard. It's already in Santee - and it seems extremely unlikely that it will be moved to someone elses backyard. NIMBYism will prevent it. Where are they going to move it? It has to be central enough to get to the 3 courthouses in the county (downtown San Diego, El Cajon, North County). Santee fits that bill.

I think the people of Santee need to be comfortable with Las Colinas - they're going to coexist as long as we need a womens detention center.

Santee is nice enough. I'm not a Santee basher. Las Colinas wouldn't be a deciding factor if I were looking there. One of my extended family is looking at REOs out there.

You are correct, UCGal, IMO the law is on the side of the County here.

See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/...

(I noticed Flu's post of last night [above] referring to the same article in this link after I posted.)

Santee has historically been one of the absolute CHEAPEST places to buy raw land in the entire county, due to a variety of factors (heat, air pollution, lack of zoning, etc). In short, it fails the "location, location, location" test.

No doubt Lennar purchased the land to develop Sky Ranch dirt cheap (esp. since they had to cut off the top of one of Santee's surrounding mtns (which sock it in with air pollution). There are absolutely no sales comparables in Santee to support Lennar's purported asking prices here. They have obviously over-developed for the area. The $3,300+ a month that SkyRanchOwner posted is an ASTRONOMICAL monthly cash outlay to live in SANTEE!! SkyRanchOwner may have a large house, but IMHO a $600K+ purchase price will buy a VERY well-located property with LAND (1/4 AC - 1 AC) in SD County. Well-located LAND is generally MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY lot in a *NEW* subdivision. With a $323 mo. HOA fee, SkyRanchOwner could purchase A LOT of home improvement products EACH MONTH to fix up a large cosmetic fixer on LAND and she/he would be giving back to THEMSELVES every month in the form of sweat equity instead of an "HOA."

No offense to any Piggs here but even though many businesses have moved into Santee in the last 20 years, its topographical, geographical and zoning issues render it as having what we refer to in RE parlance as "economic obsolescence."

I think you are too critical towards Santee. It has turned around in the last few years with many new businesses and updated infrastructure. Granted, "La Jolla" of the east county may be a few more years away but compared to other cities in the east county Santee is more attractive.

Skyranch owners have all been quite happy (just go back and read some of their comments).

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 2, 2010 - 10:24pm.

Well, that is a tough one.

Yet, we can all show the San Diego County Board of Supervisors how we feel about it...

VOTE THEM OUT!!! (Except Diane Jacob)

They've been holding those offices way too long anyway. Time for some change.

FYI: "Ryan officials declined to comment, but an attorney representing the company argued at the meeting that the county had not met the legal requirements necessary to move ahead with eminent domain."

I don't know about you, but I'm getting tired of how the government, specifically this Board of Supervisors, seems like it can just push everyone around despite the popular or majority vote.

Sounds like this fight isn't over...

Here is are some links on fighting eminent domain:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/...

http://www.californiaeminentdomainreport...

Let's make this a PR nightmare for the San Diego County Board of Supervisors!!

This is an obvious abuse of eminent domain for all to see.

On a side note, either way, homes are still selling up here! For those of you that haven't come up to Sky Ranch, it's worth a drive through. Everyone I know that lives up here has been extremely happy, and as far as prices, they have come way down from 3 years ago. It's about supply and demand, and if there is enough demand for new homes in a unique community, the prices will hold! This is the nicest new development in East County, so I think that will keep the demand high.

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 2, 2010 - 10:42pm.

More on Eminent Domain abuse and fighting back:

http://www.independent.org/events/transc...

http://www.eminentdomainlaw.net/

http://www.calpropertyrights.com/

Abuse of Power—How the Government Misuses Eminent Domain
Steven Greenhut
Seven Locks Press 2004
http://prfamerica.org/bookreviews/BookRe...
A quote from Aristotle, “We make war that we may live in peace” introduces the last chapter. Greenhut notes that the first reaction to abuse is despair, but despair should not be allowed to last long. The key to success is to not feel overwhelmed by the powerful forces. Four main approaches that have yielded success are identified.
The first — community organizing,
the second — adopting a legal strategy,
the third — political,
the fourth revolves around the media!

Some of the success stories are reviewed in detail, including:
“Illinois Stops One Stop Shopping,”
“California Dreaming,”
“The Constitution State Rediscovers the Constitution,”
“Colorado Supremes Slap Down Wal-Mart,”
“The Way From San Jose,”
“Atlantic City Officials Gambled and Lost.”

Much is to be learned from these anecdotes. Greenhut concludes with the “Organizing ABCs” — Build Broad Coalitions, Go On the Offensive, and Be Positive, Not Just Reactive, Know What You Want to Do, Don’t Lose Sight of Principle, Keep It Simple.

Submitted by flu on May 2, 2010 - 11:27pm.

SkyRanchOwner wrote:
More on Eminent Domain abuse and fighting back:

http://www.independent.org/events/transc...

http://www.eminentdomainlaw.net/

http://www.calpropertyrights.com/

Abuse of Power—How the Government Misuses Eminent Domain
Steven Greenhut
Seven Locks Press 2004
http://prfamerica.org/bookreviews/BookRe...
A quote from Aristotle, “We make war that we may live in peace” introduces the last chapter. Greenhut notes that the first reaction to abuse is despair, but despair should not be allowed to last long. The key to success is to not feel overwhelmed by the powerful forces. Four main approaches that have yielded success are identified.
The first — community organizing,
the second — adopting a legal strategy,
the third — political,
the fourth revolves around the media!

Some of the success stories are reviewed in detail, including:
“Illinois Stops One Stop Shopping,”
“California Dreaming,”
“The Constitution State Rediscovers the Constitution,”
“Colorado Supremes Slap Down Wal-Mart,”
“The Way From San Jose,”
“Atlantic City Officials Gambled and Lost.”

Much is to be learned from these anecdotes. Greenhut concludes with the “Organizing ABCs” — Build Broad Coalitions, Go On the Offensive, and Be Positive, Not Just Reactive, Know What You Want to Do, Don’t Lose Sight of Principle, Keep It Simple.

No offense, but I think you're going to be swimming upstream....If in doubt, just ask the folks that bought a home near Palomar Airport.

http://piggington.com/impact_of_palomar_...

Anytime you move into a place where there are such "landmarks", I think the expectation should be that don't expect things to change. There's a reason why things those landmarks are there, and why property prices are what they are because of it. If it's really bothersome, don't live there just because it's cheap(er). And if price is all that matters, well then accept that those landmarks are just going to stay there.

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 3, 2010 - 12:04am.

flu wrote:
SkyRanchOwner wrote:
More on Eminent Domain abuse and fighting back:

http://www.independent.org/events/transc...

http://www.eminentdomainlaw.net/

http://www.calpropertyrights.com/

Abuse of Power—How the Government Misuses Eminent Domain
Steven Greenhut
Seven Locks Press 2004
http://prfamerica.org/bookreviews/BookRe...
A quote from Aristotle, “We make war that we may live in peace” introduces the last chapter. Greenhut notes that the first reaction to abuse is despair, but despair should not be allowed to last long. The key to success is to not feel overwhelmed by the powerful forces. Four main approaches that have yielded success are identified.
The first — community organizing,
the second — adopting a legal strategy,
the third — political,
the fourth revolves around the media!

Some of the success stories are reviewed in detail, including:
“Illinois Stops One Stop Shopping,”
“California Dreaming,”
“The Constitution State Rediscovers the Constitution,”
“Colorado Supremes Slap Down Wal-Mart,”
“The Way From San Jose,”
“Atlantic City Officials Gambled and Lost.”

Much is to be learned from these anecdotes. Greenhut concludes with the “Organizing ABCs” — Build Broad Coalitions, Go On the Offensive, and Be Positive, Not Just Reactive, Know What You Want to Do, Don’t Lose Sight of Principle, Keep It Simple.

No offense, but I think you're going to be swimming upstream....If in doubt, just ask the folks that bought a home near Palomar Airport.

http://piggington.com/impact_of_palomar_...

Anytime you move into a place where there are such "landmarks", I think the expectation should be that don't expect things to change. There's a reason why things those landmarks are there, and why property prices are what they are because of it. If it's really bothersome, don't live there just because it's cheap(er). And if price is all that matters, well then accept that those landmarks are just going to stay there.

Good point flu, but really, the Board of Supervisors needs to listen to the people of Santee. This is an old building/comlex left over from the 60s. There are many places to put this jail, and there has been a lot of redevelopment in Santee to support not plopping the new expansion jail in the middle of it all.

The City of Santee doesn't want it, and I know there are many NIMBY antagonists out there who will say then why did you move there.

I still would move to Sky Ranch even with the jail there, yet the way the City of San Diego is handling this is probably not the most professional way, in my opinion. I mean, you have numerous law suits against you on building/expanding this jail, numerous people in opposition, so you just say, wham, eminent domain. How do you like them apples, city of Santee?

The main problem is that the City of San Diego is probably going to loose the funding for the expansion unless they start moving forward soon. So, they think by eminent domain, they can fast track the process and get by the lawsuits stopping them.

If you haven't been out to Santee recently and seen all the new development, you probably wouldn't understand why everyone is so passionate about not expanding the jail here.

Submitted by bearishgurl on May 3, 2010 - 1:32pm.

SkyRanchOwner wrote:
. . . Good point flu, but really, the Board of Supervisors needs to listen to the people of Santee. This is an old building/comlex left over from the 60s. There are many places to put this jail, and there has been a lot of redevelopment in Santee to support not plopping the new expansion jail in the middle of it all.

Skyranchowner, the County has owned this land for nearly 50 years. Not only is Las Colinas situated there, but Edgemoor long-term care facility is also there, as well as other County offices. The County has a *fleet* of attorneys well versed in land-use matters in its employ and at their disposal (not hourly) to pursue eminent domain. They have nothing but time on their hands and will litigate into oblivion, all the way through the appeal process.

Every single business that has moved into Santee in recent years was AWARE that the County owned a HUGE parcel in the middle of Santee BEFORE they moved in.

County is only attempting to get eminent domain rights against the developer's use of the fringes of the land they already own (most likely for easements for jail bus parking, truck loading ramps and the like).

I am a retired County employee, not necessarily always on the side of the County and can tell you that yes, this particular group of supervisors has been on board for 16 to 18 years. Every 4 years, each one comes up for re-election in their respective districts (Slater-Price's and Horn's districts have been "gerrymandered" in recent years) and they either run unopposed or "win" another term. I can personally recall two expensive and persistent campaigning attempts by one of the County's unions for Dianne Jacob's running mates. Alas, they did not work.

Skyranchowner, the PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. Things are what they are. You must accept what Santee actually is below you as it is in your constant view :)

Submitted by UCGal on May 3, 2010 - 2:33pm.

SkyRanchOwner wrote:
. . . Good point flu, but really, the Board of Supervisors needs to listen to the people of Santee. This is an old building/comlex left over from the 60s. There are many places to put this jail, and there has been a lot of redevelopment in Santee to support not plopping the new expansion jail in the middle of it all.

Technically - only the 2nd district supervisor has to listen to the people of Santee. She did, and that's why Jacobs was the dissenting vote.

But - if you want to campaign against the other 4, feel free. I'm not a fan of any of them.

Submitted by bearishgurl on May 3, 2010 - 3:39pm.

UCGal wrote:
Technically - only the 2nd district supervisor has to listen to the people of Santee. She did, and that's why Jacobs was the dissenting vote . . .
I meant to say, Jacob's "opponents," not "running mates" - LOL!

UC Gal, you are correct, Jacob can be counted on to look out for her constituency. The other 4 are only obligated to be loyal to *their own* constituency.

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 29, 2010 - 10:39am.

New Sky Ranch Home Pricing:

http://www.lennar.com/New-Homes/Californ...

New Phase Releases ready in July.

CrestView:
Residence 1 B Homesite 0023 $524,990
Estimated Availability July 2010
5583 Dracena Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2 Homesite 0024 $538,990
Estimated Availability July 2010
5577 Dracena Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2 Homesite 0040 $558,990
Estimated Availability July 2010
5580 Dracena Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2 A Homesite 0035 $531,990
Available Now
5525 Claret Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2 A Homesite 0022 $541,990
Estimated Availability July 2010
5589 Dracena Street, Santee, CA, 92071

EaglePointe:
Residence 1 Homesite 0217 $739,990
Estimated Availability July 2010
7279 Ocotillo Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2X Homesite 0211 $725,990
Available Now
7267 Ocotillo Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2X Homesite 0213 $730,990
Available Now
7270 Ocotillo Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2X Homesite 0214 $745,990
Estimated Availability July 2010
7297 Ocotillo Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Residence 2X Homesite 0216 $755,990
Estimated Availability July 2010
7285 Ocotillo Street, Santee, CA, 92071

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 29, 2010 - 10:50am.

Extension of 52 in Final Push:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/photos/201...

Should be quick and easy to get on the 52 once it is finished!

Then, as we say in Santee, it will be just 10-15 minutes to the beach! :-)

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 29, 2010 - 11:04am.

Santee Overview:

http://www.santeelakes.com/pdfs/SANTEE%2...

This is a good overview of Santee, except that it is a year old and still includes Fanita Ranch.

Also, it's interesting to see where the home prices were at the time this was made, probably before May 2009.

Submitted by santeeman on May 29, 2010 - 5:58pm.

The person who said that was refering to how long it took to get from one side of 52 to the other, and not in traffic.

Anyway, Skyranch is beautiful but my realstate agent steered me away from anything in that area because of the airport. He says that it's not avery good for resale value. When some drunk comes down the only access road, they will be rethinking that development.

There are no schools nearby either. We have some really good schools in Santee, I wouldn't pay for any private school in the area. The test scores in Santee schools are as good or better.

Submitted by kcal09 on May 29, 2010 - 6:41pm.

I think that the homes in "Skyranch" are still way overpriced despite the nice views from the mountain. Paying over $800k in Santee after landscaping and upgrades is just crazy...

Submitted by santeeman on May 29, 2010 - 9:37pm.

It is a lot to pay in Santee. There are not many in the 800k to over a million range. There are a lot more homes in Lakeside in that price range, than in Santee. Though Santee is much more upscale in appearance, with much more to offer. With a far better commute.

I think that the City of Santee is trying to change that. In the local papers, I've read that they were trying to get more move up housing in the area. The majority of new homes in Santee are for Mc Mansions, priced @ around 500k or higher. They don't seem to be adding anything for the first time buyer.

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 29, 2010 - 10:30pm.

The airport isn't that bad at all. The planes are mainly small Cessna, single prop airplanes with some small corporate jets. Most people enjoy watching the planes. I haven't heard a single person/family up here complain about the airport. It's nothing like a Lindbergh! Far, Far from it. Just come up for the day, hang out at the park, and you'll see or should I say, hear, or not hear. I think the views will outweigh any small little plane noise.

On someone driving drunk down the road, yes it could happen, but very unlikely. I doubt one drunk, driving down the road will affect 371 townhomes/home owners. You can find drunks driving around anywhere. Plus, the speed limit is very low, so even if they were drunk, they would be unlikely to make it over the curb. In addition, there are 2 main speedbumps on that road that are so heavy duty that even a drunk would slow down for them.

Hope this helps anyone with those concerns.

Submitted by SkyRanchOwner on May 30, 2010 - 11:53pm.

Since we were on the topic of the County Board of Supervisors, I found these discussions worth listening to:

What is the Role of County Supervisors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5nhSzivg...

Who will Callenge S.D. County Supervisors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC16WR4ZX...

Supervisors Use of Discretionary Fund Challenged:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg3e0CPAG...

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