Assuming that you’ll even be Assuming that you’ll even be able to find out that it’s Gulf of Mexico seafood.
CardiffBaseball
May 18, 2010 @
9:41 PM
Heck I don’t eat any seafood Heck I don’t eat any seafood so I’ll abstain.. Well an occasional piece of sushi or two, but that’s usually the stuff from Henry’s.
Actually if it’s free like a corporate event buffet, I’ll grab some shrimp. I just opt for things I really like when paying or eating out.
NewtoSanDiego
May 18, 2010 @
9:48 PM
I’m sick of liberals I’m sick of liberals over-hyping this.
Our only way to energy independence is DRILL BABY DRILL
The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Oil is also a naturally occuring substance, dare I say…..organic
Ricechex
May 18, 2010 @
10:56 PM
Brian, thanks for posting Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.
SD Realtor
May 19, 2010 @
8:30 AM
Brian I guess you broke your Brian I guess you broke your promise to FLU about your polls.
briansd1
May 19, 2010 @
10:31 AM
SD Realtor wrote:Brian I [quote=SD Realtor]Brian I guess you broke your promise to FLU about your polls.[/quote]
As Aceatia said, those are reader surveys. not polls.
flu probably voted yes, he will eat the seafood.
NotCranky
May 19, 2010 @
9:10 AM
Ricechex wrote:Brian, thanks [quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
It’s too sad and frustrating to talk about? Maybe a little guilt too? Don’t want to make ourselves obvious hypocrites by complaining about it? We are afraid of what not drilling could mean? All these things run through my mind. It is hard to talk about.
Ricechex
May 19, 2010 @
7:38 PM
Russell wrote:Ricechex [quote=Russell][quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
It’s too sad and frustrating to talk about? Maybe a little guilt too? Don’t want to make ourselves obvious hypocrites by complaining about it? We are afraid of what not drilling could mean? All these things run through my mind. It is hard to talk about.[/quote]
Rustico…you are spot on. Tapped into the existential angst about this matter. (I don’t even eat seafood). It is so much about being kind to others (plants, animals, sea life, all living things that also need this planet for survival), yet man/women seem to always trump this for their own special interests. It certainly creates an intra-psychic conflict, and then guilt as a result. Or denial. Take your pick…denial is easier, but not very genuine. Alleviating guilt by throwing up some solar panels, recycling, etc…is like throwing sand in the wind.
I have been environmentally very conservative since I was a child (thanks Dad), but not enough people are…and it is all relative (remember Brian’s other poll about being an environmentalist)…what does that really mean? If I drive my car, am I REALLY an environmentalist? Unpleasant things to consider.
The geyser (MSM is calling it a “spill”–does that tell ya something?) is spewing out an unknown amount of oil EVERY day, and no one knows how to stop it. It is very frightening on so many levels. Our addiction to oil knows no end….the very fact that we were drilling in offshore waters, beginning at 5000 FT below sea level, and an estimated 18,000 FT beyond that, shows the depth of the problem. This is FOR REAL. Oil is RUNNING OUT.
Technology is not going to save us…it is another denial. Perhaps, wishful thinking would be a better term?
Those of us in our 40’s already know how overpopulation and excessive use of resources is killing us. I remember that you spoke about some rivers that used to be alive and plentiful, but your son, he has no such awareness, simply because of his youth. What will he see in 10 years?
meadandale
May 19, 2010 @
8:16 PM
Oil is actually organic…and Oil is actually organic…and natural.
There have been natural seepages of oil off of the coast of Santa Barbara for at least hundreds of years–the native americans used the tar for sealing their canoes.
Is the natural seepage a disaster? Man made?
How would you feel if this oil in the gulf started coming up naturally due to an earthquake or some other geological shift?
Who would you have to blame? God? What would your response be then?
Have you started driving less? Eating less? Buying less stuff? Have you done anything relevant since this spill occurred other than wring your hands and spout invectives about the oil companies (who’s products you use every day)?
afx114
May 19, 2010 @
8:46 PM
Let it be known that arsenic Let it be known that arsenic and mercury are also perfectly natural. I’d love to see NewtoSanDiego, meadendale, and El Rushbo volunteer to swim in a naturally organic and therefore perfectly safe soup of crude oil, arsenic, and mercury.
blahblahblah
May 20, 2010 @
7:50 AM
meadandale wrote:Oil is [quote=meadandale]Oil is actually organic…and natural.
There have been natural seepages of oil off of the coast of Santa Barbara for at least hundreds of years–the native americans used the tar for sealing their canoes.
Is the natural seepage a disaster? Man made?
How would you feel if this oil in the gulf started coming up naturally due to an earthquake or some other geological shift?
Who would you have to blame? God? What would your response be then?
Have you started driving less? Eating less? Buying less stuff? Have you done anything relevant since this spill occurred other than wring your hands and spout invectives about the oil companies (who’s products you use every day)?[/quote]
I agree with you that people spend a lot of time complaining about the evil oil companies while driving 25 miles each way to work alone in their cars, eating food grown with oil-based fertilizers and pesticides, and flying thousands of miles per year on airlines. It’s pretty sad how disconnected we become from the reality of our existence. That gusher is basically all of our fault.
I don’t agree that the gusher is comparable to a natural oil seep, though. The volume of oil is much greater. Usually if oil is near the surface, it is dispersed across a relatively wide area and is not under much pressure. It just sort of leaks or bubbles slowly out. Also, these sort of locations (like the La Brea tar pits or the Santa Barbara coast area) have been this way for tens of thousands of years and the organisms around them have adapted. The gulf gusher is under very high pressure and is spewing a tremendous volume of oil into an area that is not accustomed to it. It is hard to imagine any natural event that could have punched a hole thousands of feet in the sea floor like a drill can, so it’s unlikely that this would have ever happened without our help.
I do think they’ll get it under control, despite what the doom&gloomers say. Remember the Exxon Valdez? It was going to ruin Alaska forever! And what do you know, everything was basically back to normal a decade later. Same for Mt. St. Helens, the news said the area would never recover and now all of the wildlife has returned. Nature is pretty incredible. Also, this isn’t the first big oil spill in the gulf, there was a really bad Mexican one in the late 70s.
NotCranky
May 20, 2010 @
11:16 AM
Ricechex wrote:Russell [quote=Ricechex][quote=Russell][quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
It’s too sad and frustrating to talk about? Maybe a little guilt too? Don’t want to make ourselves obvious hypocrites by complaining about it? We are afraid of what not drilling could mean? All these things run through my mind. It is hard to talk about.[/quote]
Rustico…you are spot on. Tapped into the existential angst about this matter. (I don’t even eat seafood). It is so much about being kind to others (plants, animals, sea life, all living things that also need this planet for survival), yet man/women seem to always trump this for their own special interests. It certainly creates an intra-psychic conflict, and then guilt as a result. Or denial. Take your pick…denial is easier, but not very genuine. Alleviating guilt by throwing up some solar panels, recycling, etc…is like throwing sand in the wind.
I have been environmentally very conservative since I was a child (thanks Dad), but not enough people are…and it is all relative (remember Brian’s other poll about being an environmentalist)…what does that really mean? If I drive my car, am I REALLY an environmentalist? Unpleasant things to consider.
The geyser (MSM is calling it a “spill”–does that tell ya something?) is spewing out an unknown amount of oil EVERY day, and no one knows how to stop it. It is very frightening on so many levels. Our addiction to oil knows no end….the very fact that we were drilling in offshore waters, beginning at 5000 FT below sea level, and an estimated 18,000 FT beyond that, shows the depth of the problem. This is FOR REAL. Oil is RUNNING OUT.
Technology is not going to save us…it is another denial. Perhaps, wishful thinking would be a better term?
Those of us in our 40’s already know how overpopulation and excessive use of resources is killing us. I remember that you spoke about some rivers that used to be alive and plentiful, but your son, he has no such awareness, simply because of his youth. What will he see in 10 years?[/quote]
I don’t know how to respond. I am stuck in the middle. I always liked the St. Francis world view. On the other hand the way we are, on average, is somewhat acceptable knowing that nature will create a correction of some sort. This is comforting since I am not going to break the record for low impact on the world…
Don’t all kinds of plagues and infestations have their way of giving out eventually? Same will be true with us.
I still think it is a good idea to appreciate peace and natural beauty, be in touch with it, and protect it for each other, as much as we can get ourselves to do. Who knows, maybe one day it will be a cooperative effort on the largest of scales?
Ricechex wrote:Brian, thanks [quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
I agree, it’s nothing less than an environmental disaster.
Perhaps we don’t talk about it much here in CA because the geyser is in the Gulf of Mexico? If the geyser were off the coast of Santa Barbara, we’d see some major public demonstrations here.
Interesting how Arnold The Governator issued a scathing rebuke of the oil industry saying that they don’t care about anything but profits.
blahblahblah
May 19, 2010 @
1:44 PM
The total amount of oil is The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Wow. Just wow. Do you spend much time at the bottom of the ocean? How about in the middle? Me neither. Same for most fish. This would be like saying after Katrina, “Hey what’s the big deal, that’s only a miniscule amount of the surface area of the US!”
Great talking point though. Keep saying that one, I’m sure everyone will think you’re smart. For added effect, throw some numbers in there, like that the oil spill is only 0.0000000000003 percent of the volume of the ocean or whatever it might be. Make sure to pronounce every digit, like “zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero…” You’ll be the life of the party.
eavesdropper
May 20, 2010 @
5:45 AM
CONCHO wrote:The total amount [quote=CONCHO]The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Wow. Just wow. Do you spend much time at the bottom of the ocean? How about in the middle? Me neither. Same for most fish. This would be like saying after Katrina, “Hey what’s the big deal, that’s only a miniscule amount of the surface area of the US!”
Great talking point though. Keep saying that one, I’m sure everyone will think you’re smart. For added effect, throw some numbers in there, like that the oil spill is only 0.0000000000003 percent of the volume of the ocean or whatever it might be. Make sure to pronounce every digit, like “zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero…” You’ll be the life of the party.[/quote]
Concho, for a dazzling display of his skilled use of scientific statistics with regard to the Gulf oil spill, check out NewToSanDiego’s May 4 (late evening) posts on the “Why do you hate the Prius” thread. It’s awe-inspiring……
Reliable rumor has it that NewToSanDiego is on this year’s National Academy of Science nomination short list, based on his groundbreaking “drop in the bucket…literally” theory, although naysayers (i.e., jealous granola eating, hemp weaving/smoking, prius-loving liberal swine intellectual elitists) claim that Glenn Beck authored the initial peer-reviewed literature in this area of research.
eavesdropper
May 19, 2010 @
11:32 PM
NewtoSanDiego wrote:I’m sick [quote=NewtoSanDiego]I’m sick of liberals over-hyping this.
Our only way to energy independence is DRILL BABY DRILL
The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Oil is also a naturally occuring substance, dare I say…..organic[/quote]
Newt, hate to say it but the only thing that stand on its own in this latest piece of drivel from your undersized cerebrum is the first sentence. Not that it’s necessarily true, but it is your opinion, and something to which most of us here feel you are entitled.
However, everything after the first line clearly demonstrates your intellectual and educational deficiencies.
Line 2: “Energy independence” implies the availability of infinite supplies of oil. That’s a new one on me, and on the vast majority of the world’s scientists and petroleum engineers.
Line 3: You’re still using this line, and I still fail to comprehend what the ratio of oil spilled to ocean volume has to do with this situation. If you’re going to sit at the big people’s table, try to move past the “Berenstain Bears Big Book of Facts” into, say, the study of basic chemistry for starters.
Line 4: Your kind really like spouting out lines like this one. It makes you feel superior to all of those “intellectual elitists” who don’t have any common sense. Listen, Newt: Feces are a naturally-occurring substance…and I will dare say, “organic”. It doesn’t mean that I want copious amounts of them spread over the beaches I take my kids to, and in the seafood I buy at the market.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say in Line 4. That anything occurring in nature is healthy? Benign? Good for everyone? If that’s “common sense”, you can keep it to yourself. Every occurrence in nature is the result of a chemical reaction. Yeah, Newt, the chemicals on the periodic table. The contents of nuclear weapons are found in nature. The problem isn’t with the naturally-occurring substances. It’s when man decides that there’s a need for, and assigns a high value to something that isn’t easily found in nature. Then decides that he wants to get more of this “naturally-occurring substance” using much cheaper methodology. That’s when a naturally-occurring substance becomes incompatible with life on this planet.
Next time you want to feel intellectually superior, Newt, sit back and watch Sarah Palin’s V.P. election campaign interviews.
sdduuuude
May 19, 2010 @
9:56 AM
Why not – in the South, they Why not – in the South, they fry everything in oil anyway.
gandalf
May 19, 2010 @
9:24 PM
The oil spill is a terrible, The oil spill is a terrible, unfortunate disaster. It’s just an awful event. Additionally, it will divert BP revenues away from next-generation energy work and capital investments. That’s a hidden cost to all of this.
BTW, some serious right-wing douchebags on this site. Local GOP pays out dollars per blog post for these butt munchers to spew right-wing bullshit on the ‘Internets’.
Stay classy, GOP.
Keep spewing crap.
Like the oil spill.
Coronita
May 19, 2010 @
9:31 PM
The irony to this was I use The irony to this was I use to tell folks be careful about buying seafood from 99 ranch that is from China, because there has been plenty of articles written in the chinese newspapers about some of those imported seafood have been soaked in mercury baths/etc, and instead buy stuff from U.S./Canada region.
Ironic now that seafood from china these days probably would be safer than ocean catch from the gulf :(.
davelj
May 19, 2010 @
10:31 PM
I’m in New Orleans once a I’m in New Orleans once a month. I’ll be there next week. I’ll report back on how the seafood was as I’ll be eating it regardless of the spill.
May 18, 2010 @ 9:15 PM
Assuming that you’ll even be
Assuming that you’ll even be able to find out that it’s Gulf of Mexico seafood.
May 18, 2010 @ 9:41 PM
Heck I don’t eat any seafood
Heck I don’t eat any seafood so I’ll abstain.. Well an occasional piece of sushi or two, but that’s usually the stuff from Henry’s.
Actually if it’s free like a corporate event buffet, I’ll grab some shrimp. I just opt for things I really like when paying or eating out.
May 18, 2010 @ 9:48 PM
I’m sick of liberals
I’m sick of liberals over-hyping this.
Our only way to energy independence is DRILL BABY DRILL
The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Oil is also a naturally occuring substance, dare I say…..organic
May 18, 2010 @ 10:56 PM
Brian, thanks for posting
Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.
May 19, 2010 @ 8:30 AM
Brian I guess you broke your
Brian I guess you broke your promise to FLU about your polls.
May 19, 2010 @ 10:31 AM
SD Realtor wrote:Brian I
[quote=SD Realtor]Brian I guess you broke your promise to FLU about your polls.[/quote]
As Aceatia said, those are reader surveys. not polls.
flu probably voted yes, he will eat the seafood.
May 19, 2010 @ 9:10 AM
Ricechex wrote:Brian, thanks
[quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
It’s too sad and frustrating to talk about? Maybe a little guilt too? Don’t want to make ourselves obvious hypocrites by complaining about it? We are afraid of what not drilling could mean? All these things run through my mind. It is hard to talk about.
May 19, 2010 @ 7:38 PM
Russell wrote:Ricechex
[quote=Russell][quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
It’s too sad and frustrating to talk about? Maybe a little guilt too? Don’t want to make ourselves obvious hypocrites by complaining about it? We are afraid of what not drilling could mean? All these things run through my mind. It is hard to talk about.[/quote]
Rustico…you are spot on. Tapped into the existential angst about this matter. (I don’t even eat seafood). It is so much about being kind to others (plants, animals, sea life, all living things that also need this planet for survival), yet man/women seem to always trump this for their own special interests. It certainly creates an intra-psychic conflict, and then guilt as a result. Or denial. Take your pick…denial is easier, but not very genuine. Alleviating guilt by throwing up some solar panels, recycling, etc…is like throwing sand in the wind.
I have been environmentally very conservative since I was a child (thanks Dad), but not enough people are…and it is all relative (remember Brian’s other poll about being an environmentalist)…what does that really mean? If I drive my car, am I REALLY an environmentalist? Unpleasant things to consider.
The geyser (MSM is calling it a “spill”–does that tell ya something?) is spewing out an unknown amount of oil EVERY day, and no one knows how to stop it. It is very frightening on so many levels. Our addiction to oil knows no end….the very fact that we were drilling in offshore waters, beginning at 5000 FT below sea level, and an estimated 18,000 FT beyond that, shows the depth of the problem. This is FOR REAL. Oil is RUNNING OUT.
Technology is not going to save us…it is another denial. Perhaps, wishful thinking would be a better term?
Those of us in our 40’s already know how overpopulation and excessive use of resources is killing us. I remember that you spoke about some rivers that used to be alive and plentiful, but your son, he has no such awareness, simply because of his youth. What will he see in 10 years?
May 19, 2010 @ 8:16 PM
Oil is actually organic…and
Oil is actually organic…and natural.
There have been natural seepages of oil off of the coast of Santa Barbara for at least hundreds of years–the native americans used the tar for sealing their canoes.
Is the natural seepage a disaster? Man made?
How would you feel if this oil in the gulf started coming up naturally due to an earthquake or some other geological shift?
Who would you have to blame? God? What would your response be then?
Have you started driving less? Eating less? Buying less stuff? Have you done anything relevant since this spill occurred other than wring your hands and spout invectives about the oil companies (who’s products you use every day)?
May 19, 2010 @ 8:46 PM
Let it be known that arsenic
Let it be known that arsenic and mercury are also perfectly natural. I’d love to see NewtoSanDiego, meadendale, and El Rushbo volunteer to swim in a naturally organic and therefore perfectly safe soup of crude oil, arsenic, and mercury.
May 20, 2010 @ 7:50 AM
meadandale wrote:Oil is
[quote=meadandale]Oil is actually organic…and natural.
There have been natural seepages of oil off of the coast of Santa Barbara for at least hundreds of years–the native americans used the tar for sealing their canoes.
Is the natural seepage a disaster? Man made?
How would you feel if this oil in the gulf started coming up naturally due to an earthquake or some other geological shift?
Who would you have to blame? God? What would your response be then?
Have you started driving less? Eating less? Buying less stuff? Have you done anything relevant since this spill occurred other than wring your hands and spout invectives about the oil companies (who’s products you use every day)?[/quote]
I agree with you that people spend a lot of time complaining about the evil oil companies while driving 25 miles each way to work alone in their cars, eating food grown with oil-based fertilizers and pesticides, and flying thousands of miles per year on airlines. It’s pretty sad how disconnected we become from the reality of our existence. That gusher is basically all of our fault.
I don’t agree that the gusher is comparable to a natural oil seep, though. The volume of oil is much greater. Usually if oil is near the surface, it is dispersed across a relatively wide area and is not under much pressure. It just sort of leaks or bubbles slowly out. Also, these sort of locations (like the La Brea tar pits or the Santa Barbara coast area) have been this way for tens of thousands of years and the organisms around them have adapted. The gulf gusher is under very high pressure and is spewing a tremendous volume of oil into an area that is not accustomed to it. It is hard to imagine any natural event that could have punched a hole thousands of feet in the sea floor like a drill can, so it’s unlikely that this would have ever happened without our help.
I do think they’ll get it under control, despite what the doom&gloomers say. Remember the Exxon Valdez? It was going to ruin Alaska forever! And what do you know, everything was basically back to normal a decade later. Same for Mt. St. Helens, the news said the area would never recover and now all of the wildlife has returned. Nature is pretty incredible. Also, this isn’t the first big oil spill in the gulf, there was a really bad Mexican one in the late 70s.
May 20, 2010 @ 11:16 AM
Ricechex wrote:Russell
[quote=Ricechex][quote=Russell][quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
It’s too sad and frustrating to talk about? Maybe a little guilt too? Don’t want to make ourselves obvious hypocrites by complaining about it? We are afraid of what not drilling could mean? All these things run through my mind. It is hard to talk about.[/quote]
Rustico…you are spot on. Tapped into the existential angst about this matter. (I don’t even eat seafood). It is so much about being kind to others (plants, animals, sea life, all living things that also need this planet for survival), yet man/women seem to always trump this for their own special interests. It certainly creates an intra-psychic conflict, and then guilt as a result. Or denial. Take your pick…denial is easier, but not very genuine. Alleviating guilt by throwing up some solar panels, recycling, etc…is like throwing sand in the wind.
I have been environmentally very conservative since I was a child (thanks Dad), but not enough people are…and it is all relative (remember Brian’s other poll about being an environmentalist)…what does that really mean? If I drive my car, am I REALLY an environmentalist? Unpleasant things to consider.
The geyser (MSM is calling it a “spill”–does that tell ya something?) is spewing out an unknown amount of oil EVERY day, and no one knows how to stop it. It is very frightening on so many levels. Our addiction to oil knows no end….the very fact that we were drilling in offshore waters, beginning at 5000 FT below sea level, and an estimated 18,000 FT beyond that, shows the depth of the problem. This is FOR REAL. Oil is RUNNING OUT.
Technology is not going to save us…it is another denial. Perhaps, wishful thinking would be a better term?
Those of us in our 40’s already know how overpopulation and excessive use of resources is killing us. I remember that you spoke about some rivers that used to be alive and plentiful, but your son, he has no such awareness, simply because of his youth. What will he see in 10 years?[/quote]
I don’t know how to respond. I am stuck in the middle. I always liked the St. Francis world view. On the other hand the way we are, on average, is somewhat acceptable knowing that nature will create a correction of some sort. This is comforting since I am not going to break the record for low impact on the world…
Don’t all kinds of plagues and infestations have their way of giving out eventually? Same will be true with us.
I still think it is a good idea to appreciate peace and natural beauty, be in touch with it, and protect it for each other, as much as we can get ourselves to do. Who knows, maybe one day it will be a cooperative effort on the largest of scales?
I bet you watched this movie with your Dad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZZFO9F8FWU
May 22, 2010 @ 7:40 AM
I don’t know about the sea
I don’t know about the sea food but…
Fisherman getting sick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CsxaJ4nBw8&feature=player_embedded
May 19, 2010 @ 1:07 PM
Ricechex wrote:Brian, thanks
[quote=Ricechex]Brian, thanks for posting this poll. It is dreadful what is going on with the oil geyser. Horrific. Oddly, I don’t find that many people are talking about it. Denial maybe? Demographics…it is in the gulf and far from CA? I don’t know but I do know this is really serious.[/quote]
I agree, it’s nothing less than an environmental disaster.
Perhaps we don’t talk about it much here in CA because the geyser is in the Gulf of Mexico? If the geyser were off the coast of Santa Barbara, we’d see some major public demonstrations here.
Interesting how Arnold The Governator issued a scathing rebuke of the oil industry saying that they don’t care about anything but profits.
May 19, 2010 @ 1:44 PM
The total amount of oil is
The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Wow. Just wow. Do you spend much time at the bottom of the ocean? How about in the middle? Me neither. Same for most fish. This would be like saying after Katrina, “Hey what’s the big deal, that’s only a miniscule amount of the surface area of the US!”
Great talking point though. Keep saying that one, I’m sure everyone will think you’re smart. For added effect, throw some numbers in there, like that the oil spill is only 0.0000000000003 percent of the volume of the ocean or whatever it might be. Make sure to pronounce every digit, like “zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero…” You’ll be the life of the party.
May 20, 2010 @ 5:45 AM
CONCHO wrote:The total amount
[quote=CONCHO]The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Wow. Just wow. Do you spend much time at the bottom of the ocean? How about in the middle? Me neither. Same for most fish. This would be like saying after Katrina, “Hey what’s the big deal, that’s only a miniscule amount of the surface area of the US!”
Great talking point though. Keep saying that one, I’m sure everyone will think you’re smart. For added effect, throw some numbers in there, like that the oil spill is only 0.0000000000003 percent of the volume of the ocean or whatever it might be. Make sure to pronounce every digit, like “zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero…” You’ll be the life of the party.[/quote]
Concho, for a dazzling display of his skilled use of scientific statistics with regard to the Gulf oil spill, check out NewToSanDiego’s May 4 (late evening) posts on the “Why do you hate the Prius” thread. It’s awe-inspiring……
Reliable rumor has it that NewToSanDiego is on this year’s National Academy of Science nomination short list, based on his groundbreaking “drop in the bucket…literally” theory, although naysayers (i.e., jealous granola eating, hemp weaving/smoking, prius-loving liberal swine intellectual elitists) claim that Glenn Beck authored the initial peer-reviewed literature in this area of research.
May 19, 2010 @ 11:32 PM
NewtoSanDiego wrote:I’m sick
[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I’m sick of liberals over-hyping this.
Our only way to energy independence is DRILL BABY DRILL
The total amount of oil is miniscule compared to the overall volume of the ocean!
Oil is also a naturally occuring substance, dare I say…..organic[/quote]
Newt, hate to say it but the only thing that stand on its own in this latest piece of drivel from your undersized cerebrum is the first sentence. Not that it’s necessarily true, but it is your opinion, and something to which most of us here feel you are entitled.
However, everything after the first line clearly demonstrates your intellectual and educational deficiencies.
Line 2: “Energy independence” implies the availability of infinite supplies of oil. That’s a new one on me, and on the vast majority of the world’s scientists and petroleum engineers.
Line 3: You’re still using this line, and I still fail to comprehend what the ratio of oil spilled to ocean volume has to do with this situation. If you’re going to sit at the big people’s table, try to move past the “Berenstain Bears Big Book of Facts” into, say, the study of basic chemistry for starters.
Line 4: Your kind really like spouting out lines like this one. It makes you feel superior to all of those “intellectual elitists” who don’t have any common sense. Listen, Newt: Feces are a naturally-occurring substance…and I will dare say, “organic”. It doesn’t mean that I want copious amounts of them spread over the beaches I take my kids to, and in the seafood I buy at the market.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say in Line 4. That anything occurring in nature is healthy? Benign? Good for everyone? If that’s “common sense”, you can keep it to yourself. Every occurrence in nature is the result of a chemical reaction. Yeah, Newt, the chemicals on the periodic table. The contents of nuclear weapons are found in nature. The problem isn’t with the naturally-occurring substances. It’s when man decides that there’s a need for, and assigns a high value to something that isn’t easily found in nature. Then decides that he wants to get more of this “naturally-occurring substance” using much cheaper methodology. That’s when a naturally-occurring substance becomes incompatible with life on this planet.
Next time you want to feel intellectually superior, Newt, sit back and watch Sarah Palin’s V.P. election campaign interviews.
May 19, 2010 @ 9:56 AM
Why not – in the South, they
Why not – in the South, they fry everything in oil anyway.
May 19, 2010 @ 9:24 PM
The oil spill is a terrible,
The oil spill is a terrible, unfortunate disaster. It’s just an awful event. Additionally, it will divert BP revenues away from next-generation energy work and capital investments. That’s a hidden cost to all of this.
BTW, some serious right-wing douchebags on this site. Local GOP pays out dollars per blog post for these butt munchers to spew right-wing bullshit on the ‘Internets’.
Stay classy, GOP.
Keep spewing crap.
Like the oil spill.
May 19, 2010 @ 9:31 PM
The irony to this was I use
The irony to this was I use to tell folks be careful about buying seafood from 99 ranch that is from China, because there has been plenty of articles written in the chinese newspapers about some of those imported seafood have been soaked in mercury baths/etc, and instead buy stuff from U.S./Canada region.
Ironic now that seafood from china these days probably would be safer than ocean catch from the gulf :(.
May 19, 2010 @ 10:31 PM
I’m in New Orleans once a
I’m in New Orleans once a month. I’ll be there next week. I’ll report back on how the seafood was as I’ll be eating it regardless of the spill.