OT: someone talk me out of this....

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Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 4:40pm

So. In the course of replacing my old miata and audi, I was contempting a new miata, frs, or 4C, or lately the miata RF.

Well it turns out, a miata is available. In the exact configuration I want...And it's $4500 off, allowing me to drive it off the lot for $27k and change.....

...And I'm getting cold feet. I hate abandoning my old cars. I feel like it's getting a divorce, abandoning something that has been loyal and a true friend for a long time, simply because it is now old....I feel, sleazy....

Someone tell me this is a bad decision.

Submitted by no_such_reality on February 16, 2017 - 4:43pm.

It's a bad decision.

What's the address I send my life coaching invoice too?

Submitted by zk on February 16, 2017 - 5:34pm.

You have the money. You want it. It's a bargain.

I guess you could keep the old one forever. Is that your plan, if you don't buy the new one now? Keeping the old one forever? That could work. You like working on them. But if that's not your plan, why not get a new one now?

Submitted by La Jolla Renter on February 16, 2017 - 6:12pm.

omg... agree with zk. Buy it.

(can't believe there aren't 10 post already trying to shame you into buying a used Prius and donate the rest to world peace)

What would you buy if you could convince yourself to part with 100k?

Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 6:16pm.

another dealer is offering $5000 +500 off, so I'm asking the first dealer to match, since it's the configuration I would want. We'll see. Hopefully, they will say no, and I can walk before the weekend. If they say yes, I'm running out of excuses...

I don't care. If they say no, my wallet doesn't have a big hole.

Submitted by svelte on February 16, 2017 - 6:15pm.

what I usually do is overlap my cars...I keep the old one long after I buy the new one. That way if I end up hating the new one (doesn't happen often), I can always sell it and go back to old faithful.

Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 6:27pm.

La Jolla Renter wrote:
omg... agree with zk. Buy it.

(can't believe there aren't 10 post already trying to shame you into buying a used Prius and donate the rest to world peace)

What would you buy if you could convince yourself to part with 100k?

$100k. Nothing. I don't think I could bring myself to buying a $100k car, unless my net worth was like around $10-20million, such that my viewpoint of a $100k car was like a $20k car.

Go big, or a go cheap.

Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 6:31pm.

Boom, dealership said no... I'm done... Well that was easy!
Walking out over $1000.... FLU style.....

Go cheap or go home....

Submitted by Rich Toscano on February 16, 2017 - 6:58pm.

Well what's done is done... I was rooting for you to get the new Miata, selfishly (meaning, not based on any financial analysis, but just because I think they are so cool and I want a pigg to buy one).

But while disappointed in that respect, I think you made the right choice in waiting for the fat pitch. You have a functional car(s) so you have the luxury of patience, might as well use that to your advantage.

For myself, my Miata just turned 14 years old and I have no plans to replace it in the foreseeable future. But man, the new model makes it tempting.

Submitted by bobby on February 16, 2017 - 7:10pm.

flu wrote:
La Jolla Renter wrote:
omg... agree with zk. Buy it.

(can't believe there aren't 10 post already trying to shame you into buying a used Prius and donate the rest to world peace)

What would you buy if you could convince yourself to part with 100k?

$100k. Nothing. I don't think I could bring myself to buying a $100k car, unless my net worth was like around $10-20million, such that my viewpoint of a $100k car was like a $20k car.

Go big, or a go cheap.


trust me, you will buy a $100K car way sooner than 10M networth.

agree with the others, buy the miata.

Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 7:10pm.

Rich Toscano wrote:
Well what's done is done... I was rooting for you to get the new Miata, selfishly (meaning, not based on any financial analysis, but just because I think they are so cool and I want a pigg to buy one).

But while disappointed in that respect, I think you made the right choice in waiting for the fat pitch. You have a functional car(s) so you have the luxury of patience, might as well use that to your advantage.

For myself, my Miata just turned 14 years old and I have no plans to replace it in the foreseeable future. But man, the new model makes it tempting.

Well, they are $4500 off!!!!

Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 7:16pm.

bobby wrote:
flu wrote:
La Jolla Renter wrote:
omg... agree with zk. Buy it.

(can't believe there aren't 10 post already trying to shame you into buying a used Prius and donate the rest to world peace)

What would you buy if you could convince yourself to part with 100k?

$100k. Nothing. I don't think I could bring myself to buying a $100k car, unless my net worth was like around $10-20million, such that my viewpoint of a $100k car was like a $20k car.

Go big, or a go cheap.


trust me, you will buy a $100K car way sooner than 10M networth.

agree with the others, buy the miata.

Truthfully, I'm the kinda of guy that would be as happy driving a $100k car on one day and a $5k crapmobile the other day. The closest analogy I can think of is one of my friends who shops at Tiffany's one day, and Walmart the other. Oh well, we have our own little quirks.

The problem is that $100k is really pushing the envelope these days. You can load up an M3/M4 and that would be $100k. It doesn't feel like it's a $100k car.
You use to be able to get a 911s below $100k just a few years ago. Now a 911s starts around $105k.... Car prices have gotten a little out of hand.

I really like the 911s when I drove it and almost pulled the trigger on that... Darn short sales property that came on the market...Though, that was a good decision.

You know what car I really like? My colleague's McLaren....

Submitted by Rich Toscano on February 16, 2017 - 7:14pm.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU
;)

Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 7:16pm.

Rich Toscano wrote:
I CAN'T HEAR YOU
;)

$4500 OFF..
$4500 OFF..
$4500 OFF..
$4500 OFF..

That's $25.4K before tax....Or maybe you can try for the additional $1000, and if two of us are asking for it, he'll say what the hell.

Submitted by Rich Toscano on February 16, 2017 - 7:22pm.

Maybe get a bulk discount?

Submitted by flu on February 16, 2017 - 7:24pm.

Rich Toscano wrote:
Maybe get a bulk discount?

Buy one get one free.

Submitted by flyer on February 16, 2017 - 9:30pm.

Continue to consider it, flu. Smart move putting real estate first, but, since you can afford both, get what you want. Life is short--enjoy it.

Submitted by Hobie on February 17, 2017 - 6:39am.

Buy now. Just a few years away from kid in college and needing $ as 'everyone' is going to Cancun for spring break ;) Hard to justify that as a 529 expense!

Submitted by Ribbles on February 17, 2017 - 7:33am.

Do it :-)

Ask yourself which is more important - years of driving enjoyment now, or a few extra bucks in retirement when you probably won't really need it and may not be able to enjoy it. If I could get away with buying that Miata now as a second car, I would. As it is, a "toy" car is many years away for me. Next up in a couple years - new daily driver in the form of the next gen STI on their new global platform. Need to be able to haul little people. It's fun listening to them giggle in the twisties.

Submitted by no_such_reality on February 17, 2017 - 9:33am.

Hobie wrote:
Buy now. Just a few years away from kid in college and needing $ as 'everyone' is going to Cancun for spring break ;) Hard to justify that as a 529 expense!

Easy, semester abroad. My undergrad offered many. Amsterdam and Bangkok were popular. Paris andd Berlin too. Then Costa Rica.

And if those didn't float your boat, an option for any city and free form community member experience self directed study...

Submitted by flu on February 17, 2017 - 10:06am.

OK. I emailed the sales guy back and asked for a $500 off instead of $1000, meeting in the middle.

If it doesn't pan out, I go on vacation next week and if it's sold during prez week so be it.

I'll let fate decide. Maybe leaving an extra $27k in the market is good or bad.....We will see

Meanwhile, got a marketing email...

Such a nice car....A little out of my price range, by a factor of 10...lol.

http://configurator.mclaren.com/model/co...

Submitted by no_such_reality on February 17, 2017 - 10:07am.

flu wrote:
OK. I emailed the sales guy back and asked for a $500 off instead of $1000, meeting in the middle.

If it doesn't pan out, I go on vacation next week and if it's sold during prez week so be it.

I'll let fate decide. Maybe leaving an extra $27k in the market is good or bad.....We will see

Meanwhile, got a marketing email...

Such a nice car....

http://configurator.mclaren.com/model/coupe570s

You just caved. Should have let him think about it until Monday. He would've called.

Submitted by flu on February 17, 2017 - 11:28am.

no_such_reality wrote:
flu wrote:
OK. I emailed the sales guy back and asked for a $500 off instead of $1000, meeting in the middle.

If it doesn't pan out, I go on vacation next week and if it's sold during prez week so be it.

I'll let fate decide. Maybe leaving an extra $27k in the market is good or bad.....We will see

Meanwhile, got a marketing email...

Such a nice car....

http://configurator.mclaren.com/model/coupe570s

You just caved. Should have let him think about it until Monday. He would've called.

I'm not going to deal with this next week because I'm on vacation, so the way I look at it is, close by tomorrow or not at all. There's a high chance these will be gone over the long weekend, and if they aren't I'll disappear and reappear, because it means these cars aren't moving. I think the sales guy is going to try to use the long weekend to move these cars out. And if he can't, then he'll call me back.

They have 12 on the lot, I doubt they will be able to sell all 12. The only problem is there is only 1 that is "stripped". The other ones have a $3400 bremo/BBS wheel package that I don't want since I plan on running my own wheels/tires/brakes. But if it comes down to that, I'll ask for a greater discount off of that. Just won't be able to get the color I originally wanted. So I would rather spend a little more on the stripped car, and save the rest toward my own aftermarket upgrades, versus getting all this from the factory.

Submitted by bobby on February 17, 2017 - 2:25pm.

flu wrote:

Truthfully, I'm the kinda of guy that would be as happy driving a $100k car on one day and a $5k crapmobile the other day. The closest analogy I can think of is one of my friends who shops at Tiffany's one day, and Walmart the other. Oh well, we have our own little quirks.

The problem is that $100k is really pushing the envelope these days. You can load up an M3/M4 and that would be $100k. It doesn't feel like it's a $100k car.
You use to be able to get a 911s below $100k just a few years ago. Now a 911s starts around $105k.... Car prices have gotten a little out of hand.

I really like the 911s when I drove it and almost pulled the trigger on that... Darn short sales property that came on the market...Though, that was a good decision.

You know what car I really like? My colleague's McLaren....

this is my set up. Regular car for weekdays and an exotic for weekends. Pretty thrilling when sliding your behinds onto the CF/alcantara seat Saturday mornings.

$100K gets you an used F430 or Gallardo. In the long term, this will likely cost you a little less than an M3/4 (as long as you only drive on weekends).

Submitted by flu on February 17, 2017 - 3:32pm.

It is done... I go tomorrow to sign papers....Unless someone from now until then can beat me to buying that car (since it's not official until the paper is signed)......

I need to be saved from being irresponsible....Some have tried but failed miserably...

Rich, between now and tomorrow, please go there and make a better off and steal this deal from me. I know you really want an ND. I mean, you probably have an NB, and the ND has more horsepower and less weight than the NB. Plus, it gets 34mpg on the freeway.

Besides, since this car has 0% US parts content, there's a chance with any sort protective trade tariff, the cost of this car will go up significantly in a few years. :)

Submitted by La Jolla Renter on February 17, 2017 - 3:35pm.

My chronic lead foot prevents me from the sports car temptation. Back when I had a fast car I would hit 100+ at least 3 to 4 times a week.

So I drive a $50k truck. About 7k miles per year.

The best part about driving a big truck is that you don't have to tolerate drivers that speed up when you politely and timely turn on your blinker to change lanes. You just keep going.

Submitted by flu on February 17, 2017 - 3:42pm.

La Jolla Renter wrote:
My chronic lead foot prevents me from the sports car temptation. Back when I had a fast car I would hit 100+ at least 3 to 4 times a week.

So I drive a $50k truck. About 7k miles per year.

The best part about driving a big truck is that you don't have to tolerate drivers that speed up when you politely and timely turn on your blinker to change lanes. You just keep going.

Lol....

Submitted by ucodegen on February 18, 2017 - 1:24am.

La Jolla Renter wrote:

The best part about driving a big truck is that you don't have to tolerate drivers that speed up when you politely and timely turn on your blinker to change lanes. You just keep going.

LOL. Same technique I use when driving the my K30. I also tend to ride the bots-dots on the right when someone decides to drop into my blind spot on the right and just sit there.

The only downside is that it tends to be thirsty.

Submitted by zk on February 18, 2017 - 7:57am.

flu wrote:
It is done... I go tomorrow to sign papers

Congrats!

Submitted by flu on February 18, 2017 - 5:49pm.

......So....

I stepped into the dealership ready to sign...Then saw the Red Miata RF on the floor at full MSRP....And then spend the next 1.5 hours thinking "if I see one of these on the road, I',m not going to be happy with my decision..." But then my cheap-ass self says "well there's a $8000 price difference between it and the one you are about to buy...." And then back and forth, back and forth, back and forth....Called sdrealtor for advice....Then back and forth, back and forth.. back and forth.....

1.5 hours later... I politely told the salesman, I'm really really sorry. If I hadn't seen the RF on the floor, I was all pumped to get the normal Miata.... He understood and said, unfortunately right now there's no discount off of the Miata RF...

So I guess I'm gonna wait for another year, for the 2017 end of clearance. I hope the Miata RF doesn't sell well, for selfish reasons. It's a pretty expensive $30k car, which opens the doors to a lot of other cars imho.

Submitted by Rich Toscano on February 18, 2017 - 6:08pm.

flu wrote:
It is done... I go tomorrow to sign papers....Unless someone from now until then can beat me to buying that car (since it's not official until the paper is signed)......

I need to be saved from being irresponsible....Some have tried but failed miserably...

Rich, between now and tomorrow, please go there and make a better off and steal this deal from me. I know you really want an ND. I mean, you probably have an NB, and the ND has more horsepower and less weight than the NB. Plus, it gets 34mpg on the freeway.

Besides, since this car has 0% US parts content, there's a chance with any sort protective trade tariff, the cost of this car will go up significantly in a few years. :)

Oops, I dropped the ball on this! Looks like you talked yourself out of it in the end anyway...

BTW yes, I do have an NB, I bought it new in 03. I've had it for so long it just feels right. I took an NC for a test drive once and even though it was faster, it just didn't feel right to me. It felt too much like a normal car. Every time I climb into my Miata's little cabin I feel right at home. Just a creature of habit I guess... (plus, this car works fine so I can't really justify a new car... but that's non car-guy thinking, I will admit).

Well, if you do eventually end up getting a new Miata (fastback or otherwise)... I will demand you post pictures.

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