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August 9, 2007 at 11:47 AM #9776August 9, 2007 at 12:05 PM #72240bsrsharmaParticipant
What is the problem? Looks like some one is robbing mortgage lenders in broad daylight. If there is someone stupid enough to advance these Jumbo loans, I say go ahead and enjoy. Make hay while the sun shines! It is going to get very dark very soon for a long time. Seems like a perfectly legal transfer of wealth between consenting adults!
August 9, 2007 at 12:05 PM #72365bsrsharmaParticipantWhat is the problem? Looks like some one is robbing mortgage lenders in broad daylight. If there is someone stupid enough to advance these Jumbo loans, I say go ahead and enjoy. Make hay while the sun shines! It is going to get very dark very soon for a long time. Seems like a perfectly legal transfer of wealth between consenting adults!
August 9, 2007 at 12:05 PM #72356bsrsharmaParticipantWhat is the problem? Looks like some one is robbing mortgage lenders in broad daylight. If there is someone stupid enough to advance these Jumbo loans, I say go ahead and enjoy. Make hay while the sun shines! It is going to get very dark very soon for a long time. Seems like a perfectly legal transfer of wealth between consenting adults!
August 9, 2007 at 12:08 PM #72242sdrealtorParticipantIt disgusts me. Thats pretty much all I have to say.
August 9, 2007 at 12:08 PM #72369sdrealtorParticipantIt disgusts me. Thats pretty much all I have to say.
August 9, 2007 at 12:08 PM #72358sdrealtorParticipantIt disgusts me. Thats pretty much all I have to say.
August 9, 2007 at 12:11 PM #72246SD RealtorParticipantfarbet –
If I was rated on my peers performance in the industry I would have a failing grade. Fortunately I am rated on my performance, not theirs.
To me there are two types to watch out for, the really dumb agent, (which there are alot of) and the agent who really does not care about the clients and will do ANYTHING for the sale, AND who is very crafty.
SD Realtor
ps – it disgusts me as well… very well put sdr.
August 9, 2007 at 12:11 PM #72370SD RealtorParticipantfarbet –
If I was rated on my peers performance in the industry I would have a failing grade. Fortunately I am rated on my performance, not theirs.
To me there are two types to watch out for, the really dumb agent, (which there are alot of) and the agent who really does not care about the clients and will do ANYTHING for the sale, AND who is very crafty.
SD Realtor
ps – it disgusts me as well… very well put sdr.
August 9, 2007 at 12:11 PM #72361SD RealtorParticipantfarbet –
If I was rated on my peers performance in the industry I would have a failing grade. Fortunately I am rated on my performance, not theirs.
To me there are two types to watch out for, the really dumb agent, (which there are alot of) and the agent who really does not care about the clients and will do ANYTHING for the sale, AND who is very crafty.
SD Realtor
ps – it disgusts me as well… very well put sdr.
August 9, 2007 at 12:28 PM #72392BugsParticipantMaybe it’s just me, but I’m not seeing the misconduct that’s being alleged here. The original sale prices in 2000, 2001 or 2004 are irrelevant to anything. The amount of cash these sellers are pocketing is also irrelevant. Regardless of what we think the prices SHOULD be, the homes are worth in 2007 what they’re worth in 2007.
I’d have to take a look around to see if the sale prices are reasonable with respect to the local comps so I make no assumptions about that one way or the other. But even if there are problems with comps, that’s not the agents’ problem but rather a problem with the appraiser and the lender who isn’t bothering to watch the appraiser.
Now if we’re alleging mortgage fraud (which I guess is where the blog is going) then I guess there is that – but that occurs with the loan originator and the borrower, not (usually) with the realty agents.
Believe me, there’s nobody on this planet who’s faster to criticize misbehaving “professionals”, but I’d have to see some indication of misconduct before I start casting stones. At most, clearing a profit is no more than an indirect indicator. Even if these agents have a reputation for doing funky things in the past that’s no guarantee that this is funky too.
August 9, 2007 at 12:28 PM #72382BugsParticipantMaybe it’s just me, but I’m not seeing the misconduct that’s being alleged here. The original sale prices in 2000, 2001 or 2004 are irrelevant to anything. The amount of cash these sellers are pocketing is also irrelevant. Regardless of what we think the prices SHOULD be, the homes are worth in 2007 what they’re worth in 2007.
I’d have to take a look around to see if the sale prices are reasonable with respect to the local comps so I make no assumptions about that one way or the other. But even if there are problems with comps, that’s not the agents’ problem but rather a problem with the appraiser and the lender who isn’t bothering to watch the appraiser.
Now if we’re alleging mortgage fraud (which I guess is where the blog is going) then I guess there is that – but that occurs with the loan originator and the borrower, not (usually) with the realty agents.
Believe me, there’s nobody on this planet who’s faster to criticize misbehaving “professionals”, but I’d have to see some indication of misconduct before I start casting stones. At most, clearing a profit is no more than an indirect indicator. Even if these agents have a reputation for doing funky things in the past that’s no guarantee that this is funky too.
August 9, 2007 at 12:28 PM #72266BugsParticipantMaybe it’s just me, but I’m not seeing the misconduct that’s being alleged here. The original sale prices in 2000, 2001 or 2004 are irrelevant to anything. The amount of cash these sellers are pocketing is also irrelevant. Regardless of what we think the prices SHOULD be, the homes are worth in 2007 what they’re worth in 2007.
I’d have to take a look around to see if the sale prices are reasonable with respect to the local comps so I make no assumptions about that one way or the other. But even if there are problems with comps, that’s not the agents’ problem but rather a problem with the appraiser and the lender who isn’t bothering to watch the appraiser.
Now if we’re alleging mortgage fraud (which I guess is where the blog is going) then I guess there is that – but that occurs with the loan originator and the borrower, not (usually) with the realty agents.
Believe me, there’s nobody on this planet who’s faster to criticize misbehaving “professionals”, but I’d have to see some indication of misconduct before I start casting stones. At most, clearing a profit is no more than an indirect indicator. Even if these agents have a reputation for doing funky things in the past that’s no guarantee that this is funky too.
August 9, 2007 at 12:30 PM #72268JWM in SDParticipantNO, it isn’t OKay Bsharma. That is why the dollar is at an all time low right now. Super Janae is an example of where the value our US Dollar has gone in the past several years. Into her MBZs and Beemers and whatever other crap she bought with those ill-gotten gains.
I will say it yet again so everyone understands this:
For the past several years M3 growth has flooded the marketplace with liquidity and that is why we have a housing bubble. The REIC has been grifting off that credit expansion. We are heading into deflation which historically results from a credit bubble.
August 9, 2007 at 12:30 PM #72386JWM in SDParticipantNO, it isn’t OKay Bsharma. That is why the dollar is at an all time low right now. Super Janae is an example of where the value our US Dollar has gone in the past several years. Into her MBZs and Beemers and whatever other crap she bought with those ill-gotten gains.
I will say it yet again so everyone understands this:
For the past several years M3 growth has flooded the marketplace with liquidity and that is why we have a housing bubble. The REIC has been grifting off that credit expansion. We are heading into deflation which historically results from a credit bubble.
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