School test scores… like ’em or not, they’re out for the 2009/2010 year

[an]

[quote=davelj]I have some friends who have a son that was a very mediocre high school student (with marginal test scores). He went to one of the local community colleges for two years, did reasonably well (mostly A’s and B’s), applied to UCSD and was accepted, with credits transferred, without incident. I think it only took him two years to graduate from UCSD. If this kid is any indication, going the community college route is both cheaper and easier. It seems a hell of a lot easier than applying with every kid that wants into the system straight out of high school.

http://uctransfer.universityofcalifornia.edu/index.html%5B/quote%5D
It’s not normal to be able to graduate in 4 years if you transfer from JC. If you want to speed things up, you can take JC classes while you’re in HS, during summer and at night to clear out all of your GEs. Then go to a UC (like UCSD) with good reputation, and continue to take JC classes during the summer as well. If you do that, you can probably graduate in 2-3 years. But that’s not typical either. BTW, you can start taking classes at JC when you turn 16.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=davelj]I have some friends who have a son that was a very mediocre high school student (with marginal test scores). He went to one of the local community colleges for two years, did reasonably well (mostly A’s and B’s), applied to UCSD and was accepted, with credits transferred, without incident. I think it only took him two years to graduate from UCSD. If this kid is any indication, going the community college route is both cheaper and easier. It seems a hell of a lot easier than applying with every kid that wants into the system straight out of high school.

http://uctransfer.universityofcalifornia.edu/index.html%5B/quote%5D

I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.

The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=davelj]I have some friends who have a son that was a very mediocre high school student (with marginal test scores). He went to one of the local community colleges for two years, did reasonably well (mostly A’s and B’s), applied to UCSD and was accepted, with credits transferred, without incident. I think it only took him two years to graduate from UCSD. If this kid is any indication, going the community college route is both cheaper and easier. It seems a hell of a lot easier than applying with every kid that wants into the system straight out of high school.

http://uctransfer.universityofcalifornia.edu/index.html%5B/quote%5D

I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.

The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=davelj]I have some friends who have a son that was a very mediocre high school student (with marginal test scores). He went to one of the local community colleges for two years, did reasonably well (mostly A’s and B’s), applied to UCSD and was accepted, with credits transferred, without incident. I think it only took him two years to graduate from UCSD. If this kid is any indication, going the community college route is both cheaper and easier. It seems a hell of a lot easier than applying with every kid that wants into the system straight out of high school.

http://uctransfer.universityofcalifornia.edu/index.html%5B/quote%5D

I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.

The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=davelj]I have some friends who have a son that was a very mediocre high school student (with marginal test scores). He went to one of the local community colleges for two years, did reasonably well (mostly A’s and B’s), applied to UCSD and was accepted, with credits transferred, without incident. I think it only took him two years to graduate from UCSD. If this kid is any indication, going the community college route is both cheaper and easier. It seems a hell of a lot easier than applying with every kid that wants into the system straight out of high school.

http://uctransfer.universityofcalifornia.edu/index.html%5B/quote%5D

I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.

The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=davelj]I have some friends who have a son that was a very mediocre high school student (with marginal test scores). He went to one of the local community colleges for two years, did reasonably well (mostly A’s and B’s), applied to UCSD and was accepted, with credits transferred, without incident. I think it only took him two years to graduate from UCSD. If this kid is any indication, going the community college route is both cheaper and easier. It seems a hell of a lot easier than applying with every kid that wants into the system straight out of high school.

http://uctransfer.universityofcalifornia.edu/index.html%5B/quote%5D

I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.

The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Absolutely true, AN. I’ve known kids like that, too. You would be surprised how many kids from ALL Sweetwater and ALL SD high schools have multiple-choice offers from not only “ivy-league” schools but USC and multiple UC campuses.

All CA public high schools MUST teach to the same standards. It’s up to the student to avail themselves of everything that’s offered to them in HS and to excel to their highest ability in A-G subjects, as well as prepare properly for the SAT exam before taking it. This applies to the kid attending Crawford HS from his/her grandparent’s back bedroom or LR futon and the kid living in a single-wide trailer in the middle of a lettuce field in Stanislaus Co. the same as it does for the kid living in their parent’s “granny flat” next to their backyard pool in LJ.

Admissions officers in CA public colleges are far more interested in HS performance than personal circumstances of the student.[/quote]
The one advantage I see with going to schools with high API scores is the level of competition that you get introduced to from early on. If you take a look at the average GPA in UC of schools like MMHS and Sweetwater, and compare them to TPHS, you will see that kids who graduated from TPHS does have a higher average GPA in UC. So, maybe that’s due to the fact that they’re exposed to higher level of competition early on, so they are used to working at 100% of their ability, vs coasting through HS and still get 4.0+ GPA.

BTW, this is all talking about the average number as well. If your kids are smart and driven, I don’t think it matters, since your kids can go to JC can compete w/ HS graduates when they’re 16. Which mean they’ll be exposed to much higher competition level early on.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Absolutely true, AN. I’ve known kids like that, too. You would be surprised how many kids from ALL Sweetwater and ALL SD high schools have multiple-choice offers from not only “ivy-league” schools but USC and multiple UC campuses.

All CA public high schools MUST teach to the same standards. It’s up to the student to avail themselves of everything that’s offered to them in HS and to excel to their highest ability in A-G subjects, as well as prepare properly for the SAT exam before taking it. This applies to the kid attending Crawford HS from his/her grandparent’s back bedroom or LR futon and the kid living in a single-wide trailer in the middle of a lettuce field in Stanislaus Co. the same as it does for the kid living in their parent’s “granny flat” next to their backyard pool in LJ.

Admissions officers in CA public colleges are far more interested in HS performance than personal circumstances of the student.[/quote]
The one advantage I see with going to schools with high API scores is the level of competition that you get introduced to from early on. If you take a look at the average GPA in UC of schools like MMHS and Sweetwater, and compare them to TPHS, you will see that kids who graduated from TPHS does have a higher average GPA in UC. So, maybe that’s due to the fact that they’re exposed to higher level of competition early on, so they are used to working at 100% of their ability, vs coasting through HS and still get 4.0+ GPA.

BTW, this is all talking about the average number as well. If your kids are smart and driven, I don’t think it matters, since your kids can go to JC can compete w/ HS graduates when they’re 16. Which mean they’ll be exposed to much higher competition level early on.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Absolutely true, AN. I’ve known kids like that, too. You would be surprised how many kids from ALL Sweetwater and ALL SD high schools have multiple-choice offers from not only “ivy-league” schools but USC and multiple UC campuses.

All CA public high schools MUST teach to the same standards. It’s up to the student to avail themselves of everything that’s offered to them in HS and to excel to their highest ability in A-G subjects, as well as prepare properly for the SAT exam before taking it. This applies to the kid attending Crawford HS from his/her grandparent’s back bedroom or LR futon and the kid living in a single-wide trailer in the middle of a lettuce field in Stanislaus Co. the same as it does for the kid living in their parent’s “granny flat” next to their backyard pool in LJ.

Admissions officers in CA public colleges are far more interested in HS performance than personal circumstances of the student.[/quote]
The one advantage I see with going to schools with high API scores is the level of competition that you get introduced to from early on. If you take a look at the average GPA in UC of schools like MMHS and Sweetwater, and compare them to TPHS, you will see that kids who graduated from TPHS does have a higher average GPA in UC. So, maybe that’s due to the fact that they’re exposed to higher level of competition early on, so they are used to working at 100% of their ability, vs coasting through HS and still get 4.0+ GPA.

BTW, this is all talking about the average number as well. If your kids are smart and driven, I don’t think it matters, since your kids can go to JC can compete w/ HS graduates when they’re 16. Which mean they’ll be exposed to much higher competition level early on.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Absolutely true, AN. I’ve known kids like that, too. You would be surprised how many kids from ALL Sweetwater and ALL SD high schools have multiple-choice offers from not only “ivy-league” schools but USC and multiple UC campuses.

All CA public high schools MUST teach to the same standards. It’s up to the student to avail themselves of everything that’s offered to them in HS and to excel to their highest ability in A-G subjects, as well as prepare properly for the SAT exam before taking it. This applies to the kid attending Crawford HS from his/her grandparent’s back bedroom or LR futon and the kid living in a single-wide trailer in the middle of a lettuce field in Stanislaus Co. the same as it does for the kid living in their parent’s “granny flat” next to their backyard pool in LJ.

Admissions officers in CA public colleges are far more interested in HS performance than personal circumstances of the student.[/quote]
The one advantage I see with going to schools with high API scores is the level of competition that you get introduced to from early on. If you take a look at the average GPA in UC of schools like MMHS and Sweetwater, and compare them to TPHS, you will see that kids who graduated from TPHS does have a higher average GPA in UC. So, maybe that’s due to the fact that they’re exposed to higher level of competition early on, so they are used to working at 100% of their ability, vs coasting through HS and still get 4.0+ GPA.

BTW, this is all talking about the average number as well. If your kids are smart and driven, I don’t think it matters, since your kids can go to JC can compete w/ HS graduates when they’re 16. Which mean they’ll be exposed to much higher competition level early on.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Absolutely true, AN. I’ve known kids like that, too. You would be surprised how many kids from ALL Sweetwater and ALL SD high schools have multiple-choice offers from not only “ivy-league” schools but USC and multiple UC campuses.

All CA public high schools MUST teach to the same standards. It’s up to the student to avail themselves of everything that’s offered to them in HS and to excel to their highest ability in A-G subjects, as well as prepare properly for the SAT exam before taking it. This applies to the kid attending Crawford HS from his/her grandparent’s back bedroom or LR futon and the kid living in a single-wide trailer in the middle of a lettuce field in Stanislaus Co. the same as it does for the kid living in their parent’s “granny flat” next to their backyard pool in LJ.

Admissions officers in CA public colleges are far more interested in HS performance than personal circumstances of the student.[/quote]
The one advantage I see with going to schools with high API scores is the level of competition that you get introduced to from early on. If you take a look at the average GPA in UC of schools like MMHS and Sweetwater, and compare them to TPHS, you will see that kids who graduated from TPHS does have a higher average GPA in UC. So, maybe that’s due to the fact that they’re exposed to higher level of competition early on, so they are used to working at 100% of their ability, vs coasting through HS and still get 4.0+ GPA.

BTW, this is all talking about the average number as well. If your kids are smart and driven, I don’t think it matters, since your kids can go to JC can compete w/ HS graduates when they’re 16. Which mean they’ll be exposed to much higher competition level early on.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.[/quote]
I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.

[quote=bearishgurl]The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.[/quote]
Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.[/quote]
I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.

[quote=bearishgurl]The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.[/quote]
Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.[/quote]
I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.

[quote=bearishgurl]The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.[/quote]
Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
I agree with this approach, davelj. I think my last kid is leaning this way due to recently noticing how much “predecessors” have had to pay to live away from home and how long it has taken them to graduate due to work commitments.[/quote]
I don’t know how many hours your kid was working during school, but I was working 20-30/week throughout college and I was still able to finish in 4 years.

[quote=bearishgurl]The GE requirements of the first two years of college can be obtained anywhere and the CC’s are much cheaper (and far less crowded) in these classes than universities. At the end of the day, the ink dries the same color and at the same speed on the university diploma, whether the student spent two years or four years at the university they graduated from. It’s actually faster to do it this way, IMO, due to the agreements UC and CSU have with the CA CC Districts.[/quote]
Although this is true, the one thing you’ll miss out is the college experience of the 1st two years, where you experience the dorm life and making new friends. I missed out on that and I will never be able to experience that. Money can be made later but certain experiences in life only come once.

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