OT: Who will Hillary pick as a vice president?

[moneymaker]

Since she is in the lead now, who do you think she will pick as running mate?

[FlyerInHi]

Good question.

It would have to be a man. Two women would not work.
I think a more centrist White man. A black, Latino or Asian would not work either. Maybe a more whitewashed Latino like Bill Richardson.

I would like to see a Latino. Then we could have a Black president, followed by a woman, followed by a Latino.

[spdrun]

Hopefully no one — ideally, she’ll have a massive CVA before primaries start, be reduced to a drooling invalid, and Sanders will enter the lead.

We’ve already had one political dynasty over 20 years. No need for another.

[FlyerInHi]

How would you feel if Sanders gets beaten by Trump?

[spdrun]

Better a New Yorker than a carpetbagger like Hillary. Trump would be enough of a buffoon not to get anything accomplished over four years. Sometimes, stasis is the best option.

But hey. If we’re dreaming, the ideal outcome would be for BOTH of them to end up too ill to be effective in the next few months.

[FlyerInHi]

Spd, why the antipathy towards Hillary?
I think many feminists like her illicit dislike/hatred.

Sanders is too isolationist. Don’t you support international trade, travel and freedom of movement? Are we all going to become wholesome Vermonter?

[spdrun]

Sanders all the way!

He’s a native born New Yorker, as much as a Vermonter. He might go hard on China (which doesn’t play by the same environmental rules as we do, so that’s fair). But he’s also likely to be in favor of returning the border suckurity nonsense to pre-9/11 levels.

Vermont is a border state. Quite a few towns (even buildings) in Vermont straddle the international border, and Vermonters have been royally pissed off by the tightening and level of harassment since 9/11. And rightly so.

Also, he’s for weakening the security/surveillance/military-parasite state. When choosing liberties in the US vs caring about the Chinese economy and importation of more unneeded crap to the US, I’ll choose the former. And I find open movement of people with minimal questioning and harassment to be much more important than free movement of cheap plastic Chinese trinkets and electronics.

Individual rights. Not big-corporate rights. I really don’t give a rat’s ass about Apple’s right to make iPads using Chinese “slave” labor in some polluted pesthole and import them to the US at a 300% markup. Hillary is another Wall Street darling. Yeah, yeah. Free trade makes us richer. But I for one would rather have a more just society than a wealthier one.

Hillary has carpetbagged to NY State and has to appear more New Yorker than one that was born here. So she needs to wave the “9/11, security, rah-rah-rah, never forget” flag forever. Plus she needs to make up for allegations of impropriety in Benghazi by appearing “tough on terror.”

And lastly, a Jewish president would be able to stand up to the Israeli government and their lobbies without being accused of anti-Semitism. Both self-professed Christians and senators from NY are unlikely to be able to do so.

[FlyerInHi]

Ok. Is the general electorate ready to elect a self professed socialist?

Socialist has been a dirty word for a long time. Would it be ironic to want a socialist but then end up with a right wing republican?

[spdrun]

If every voter thinks that way, then we’ll end up with another Wall St./security-state/military pimp like Hillary.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun] He might go hard on China (which doesn’t play by the same environmental rules as we do, so that’s fair). [/quote]

That’s a very interesting issue.

Come down hard on China and they will come down hard on us. Internet companies, like Google, Facebook, Uber, Twitter, etc… have essentially been able go operate internationally, without regard to local laws.

[FlyerInHi]

I just watched Tim Kaine in Miami.

I like the guy. He was clearly moved when Hillary introduced him.

He’s a natural likeable guy. Not polished. He speaks Spanish really well. Makes me wish I spoke better.

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