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January 17, 2011 at 11:34 AM #655935January 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM #654792
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ParticipantA tool that helps building a ‘trailway’ on a slope: San Angelo bar. You mark where the cut ‘in’ on the slope will be for the trailway and you drive the tip (spade or pointed) in at that point and then pull the top end of the bar towards the down slope. Watch your toes, the bar is heavy. Drive the tip of the bar in by lifting the bar (2 to 3 feet) with the tip down and then dropping the bar (tip end down), even help gravity by driving it down instead of just letting gravity do the work.
The San Angelo bar is also useful if you need to remove cactus, particularly yuccas. It is also useful when trying to dig in compacted or rocky soil.
I used to do trail maintenance in Los Padres and San Gabriels. The San Angelo bar was my favorite ‘weapon’. Good for moving rocks too.
I wouldn’t use the bag of cement method. You end up wasting a lot of cement. You only need just under 2″ thick and a bag of cement is much thicker. The other problem is that it will be hard to get the entire contents of the bag wet. Odds will be that it will harden with the center still ‘powder’.
You can use cinderbrick for the ‘retaining wall’. Fill the holes with dirt and put plants in them (holes upwards). You can also use cinderbrick for the steps by putting them sideways (holes horizontal) or oriented normally.
Another trick would be to get all of the loose rock that you don’t want and to press/work them into the loose soil of the trailway after you cut it into the slope (don’t use the smooth surface rock though because it would be slippery if moist)
Another option for retaining wall is interlocking brick (some places mix this up with pavers, but it is for vertical walls).
http://flyashbricksinfo.com/construction/concrete-masonry-units-mortarless-block-systems.html
January 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM #654854ParticipantA tool that helps building a ‘trailway’ on a slope: San Angelo bar. You mark where the cut ‘in’ on the slope will be for the trailway and you drive the tip (spade or pointed) in at that point and then pull the top end of the bar towards the down slope. Watch your toes, the bar is heavy. Drive the tip of the bar in by lifting the bar (2 to 3 feet) with the tip down and then dropping the bar (tip end down), even help gravity by driving it down instead of just letting gravity do the work.
The San Angelo bar is also useful if you need to remove cactus, particularly yuccas. It is also useful when trying to dig in compacted or rocky soil.
I used to do trail maintenance in Los Padres and San Gabriels. The San Angelo bar was my favorite ‘weapon’. Good for moving rocks too.
I wouldn’t use the bag of cement method. You end up wasting a lot of cement. You only need just under 2″ thick and a bag of cement is much thicker. The other problem is that it will be hard to get the entire contents of the bag wet. Odds will be that it will harden with the center still ‘powder’.
You can use cinderbrick for the ‘retaining wall’. Fill the holes with dirt and put plants in them (holes upwards). You can also use cinderbrick for the steps by putting them sideways (holes horizontal) or oriented normally.
Another trick would be to get all of the loose rock that you don’t want and to press/work them into the loose soil of the trailway after you cut it into the slope (don’t use the smooth surface rock though because it would be slippery if moist)
Another option for retaining wall is interlocking brick (some places mix this up with pavers, but it is for vertical walls).
http://flyashbricksinfo.com/construction/concrete-masonry-units-mortarless-block-systems.html
January 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM #655451ParticipantA tool that helps building a ‘trailway’ on a slope: San Angelo bar. You mark where the cut ‘in’ on the slope will be for the trailway and you drive the tip (spade or pointed) in at that point and then pull the top end of the bar towards the down slope. Watch your toes, the bar is heavy. Drive the tip of the bar in by lifting the bar (2 to 3 feet) with the tip down and then dropping the bar (tip end down), even help gravity by driving it down instead of just letting gravity do the work.
The San Angelo bar is also useful if you need to remove cactus, particularly yuccas. It is also useful when trying to dig in compacted or rocky soil.
I used to do trail maintenance in Los Padres and San Gabriels. The San Angelo bar was my favorite ‘weapon’. Good for moving rocks too.
I wouldn’t use the bag of cement method. You end up wasting a lot of cement. You only need just under 2″ thick and a bag of cement is much thicker. The other problem is that it will be hard to get the entire contents of the bag wet. Odds will be that it will harden with the center still ‘powder’.
You can use cinderbrick for the ‘retaining wall’. Fill the holes with dirt and put plants in them (holes upwards). You can also use cinderbrick for the steps by putting them sideways (holes horizontal) or oriented normally.
Another trick would be to get all of the loose rock that you don’t want and to press/work them into the loose soil of the trailway after you cut it into the slope (don’t use the smooth surface rock though because it would be slippery if moist)
Another option for retaining wall is interlocking brick (some places mix this up with pavers, but it is for vertical walls).
http://flyashbricksinfo.com/construction/concrete-masonry-units-mortarless-block-systems.html
January 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM #655589ParticipantA tool that helps building a ‘trailway’ on a slope: San Angelo bar. You mark where the cut ‘in’ on the slope will be for the trailway and you drive the tip (spade or pointed) in at that point and then pull the top end of the bar towards the down slope. Watch your toes, the bar is heavy. Drive the tip of the bar in by lifting the bar (2 to 3 feet) with the tip down and then dropping the bar (tip end down), even help gravity by driving it down instead of just letting gravity do the work.
The San Angelo bar is also useful if you need to remove cactus, particularly yuccas. It is also useful when trying to dig in compacted or rocky soil.
I used to do trail maintenance in Los Padres and San Gabriels. The San Angelo bar was my favorite ‘weapon’. Good for moving rocks too.
I wouldn’t use the bag of cement method. You end up wasting a lot of cement. You only need just under 2″ thick and a bag of cement is much thicker. The other problem is that it will be hard to get the entire contents of the bag wet. Odds will be that it will harden with the center still ‘powder’.
You can use cinderbrick for the ‘retaining wall’. Fill the holes with dirt and put plants in them (holes upwards). You can also use cinderbrick for the steps by putting them sideways (holes horizontal) or oriented normally.
Another trick would be to get all of the loose rock that you don’t want and to press/work them into the loose soil of the trailway after you cut it into the slope (don’t use the smooth surface rock though because it would be slippery if moist)
Another option for retaining wall is interlocking brick (some places mix this up with pavers, but it is for vertical walls).
http://flyashbricksinfo.com/construction/concrete-masonry-units-mortarless-block-systems.html
January 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM #655920ParticipantA tool that helps building a ‘trailway’ on a slope: San Angelo bar. You mark where the cut ‘in’ on the slope will be for the trailway and you drive the tip (spade or pointed) in at that point and then pull the top end of the bar towards the down slope. Watch your toes, the bar is heavy. Drive the tip of the bar in by lifting the bar (2 to 3 feet) with the tip down and then dropping the bar (tip end down), even help gravity by driving it down instead of just letting gravity do the work.
The San Angelo bar is also useful if you need to remove cactus, particularly yuccas. It is also useful when trying to dig in compacted or rocky soil.
I used to do trail maintenance in Los Padres and San Gabriels. The San Angelo bar was my favorite ‘weapon’. Good for moving rocks too.
I wouldn’t use the bag of cement method. You end up wasting a lot of cement. You only need just under 2″ thick and a bag of cement is much thicker. The other problem is that it will be hard to get the entire contents of the bag wet. Odds will be that it will harden with the center still ‘powder’.
You can use cinderbrick for the ‘retaining wall’. Fill the holes with dirt and put plants in them (holes upwards). You can also use cinderbrick for the steps by putting them sideways (holes horizontal) or oriented normally.
Another trick would be to get all of the loose rock that you don’t want and to press/work them into the loose soil of the trailway after you cut it into the slope (don’t use the smooth surface rock though because it would be slippery if moist)
Another option for retaining wall is interlocking brick (some places mix this up with pavers, but it is for vertical walls).
http://flyashbricksinfo.com/construction/concrete-masonry-units-mortarless-block-systems.html
January 17, 2011 at 12:32 PM #654842briansd1
Guest[quote=sdduuuude]Another way is to get in touch with someone taking out their driveway. Jackhammer or sawcut the pieces into 1′ x 2′ pieces and stack them (with or without mortar on top of a poured footing. They benefit because taking the demolished driveway to the dump is very expensive.
It is a popular Clairemont canyon solution.[/quote]
Good solution. It’s called urbanite.
January 17, 2011 at 12:32 PM #654904Guest[quote=sdduuuude]Another way is to get in touch with someone taking out their driveway. Jackhammer or sawcut the pieces into 1′ x 2′ pieces and stack them (with or without mortar on top of a poured footing. They benefit because taking the demolished driveway to the dump is very expensive.
It is a popular Clairemont canyon solution.[/quote]
Good solution. It’s called urbanite.
January 17, 2011 at 12:32 PM #655501Guest[quote=sdduuuude]Another way is to get in touch with someone taking out their driveway. Jackhammer or sawcut the pieces into 1′ x 2′ pieces and stack them (with or without mortar on top of a poured footing. They benefit because taking the demolished driveway to the dump is very expensive.
It is a popular Clairemont canyon solution.[/quote]
Good solution. It’s called urbanite.
January 17, 2011 at 12:32 PM #655639Guest[quote=sdduuuude]Another way is to get in touch with someone taking out their driveway. Jackhammer or sawcut the pieces into 1′ x 2′ pieces and stack them (with or without mortar on top of a poured footing. They benefit because taking the demolished driveway to the dump is very expensive.
It is a popular Clairemont canyon solution.[/quote]
Good solution. It’s called urbanite.
January 17, 2011 at 12:32 PM #655970Guest[quote=sdduuuude]Another way is to get in touch with someone taking out their driveway. Jackhammer or sawcut the pieces into 1′ x 2′ pieces and stack them (with or without mortar on top of a poured footing. They benefit because taking the demolished driveway to the dump is very expensive.
It is a popular Clairemont canyon solution.[/quote]
Good solution. It’s called urbanite.
January 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM #654886desmond
ParticipantThe above ideas sound great but on a steep slope all are heavy and to hard to work with. Your best bet would be to use Railroad ties, they can be cut to width, stacked, relatively light and inexpensive, can be secured by stakes, or drill a hole in them and drive rebar through them and into the soil. Here are some pictures on steep slopes:
January 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM #654949ParticipantThe above ideas sound great but on a steep slope all are heavy and to hard to work with. Your best bet would be to use Railroad ties, they can be cut to width, stacked, relatively light and inexpensive, can be secured by stakes, or drill a hole in them and drive rebar through them and into the soil. Here are some pictures on steep slopes:
January 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM #655546ParticipantThe above ideas sound great but on a steep slope all are heavy and to hard to work with. Your best bet would be to use Railroad ties, they can be cut to width, stacked, relatively light and inexpensive, can be secured by stakes, or drill a hole in them and drive rebar through them and into the soil. Here are some pictures on steep slopes:
January 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM #655684ParticipantThe above ideas sound great but on a steep slope all are heavy and to hard to work with. Your best bet would be to use Railroad ties, they can be cut to width, stacked, relatively light and inexpensive, can be secured by stakes, or drill a hole in them and drive rebar through them and into the soil. Here are some pictures on steep slopes:
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