OT – Eric Garner’s strangler not indicted

[SK in CV]

[quote=svelte]It is terrible that he died yes, but he was certainly not cooperating.

I don’t care if you’re white, black, yellow or orange if you don’t cooperate with police then they should be able to use force to make you cooperate.

[/quote]

Cooperate or die? Really?

[SK in CV]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Seems pretty clear cut to me. The cop used an illegal chokehold.[/quote]

It is not illegal. It is against NYPD policy. Intentionally choking someone to death is illegal. The chokehold itself is not.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=svelte]It is terrible that he died yes, but he was certainly not cooperating.

I don’t care if you’re white, black, yellow or orange if you don’t cooperate with police then they should be able to use force to make you cooperate.

[/quote]

Cooperate or die? Really?[/quote]

Let’s check with Kelly Thomas…

It’s what the protest are really about. Non-accountability for excessive use of force.

[scaredyclassic]

New York’s Most Prominent Smokers Weigh in on Bumming Culture

here is a very interesting article ont he culture surrounding bumming cigarettes in NYC. the high price of cigs i guess opens up a market for single cigarette sellers.

i would expect more people would roll their own cigs with loose tobacco when the price hits around 15 a pack, as in NYC. not sure how long it would take to roll a pack of cigs, but it’s all tax free money.

cigarettes will be illegal in our lifetime, but not quite yet.

[spdrun]

The day they ban cigarettes, I’m moving to some third-world country where no one gives a fuck.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=spdrun]The day they ban cigarettes, I’m moving to some third-world country where no one gives a fuck.[/quote]

aw cmon, once its illegal itll be cool again! like pot in the 70s. hell if they criminalize cigarettes, i think i’ll start smoking them…

plus there will be money making opportunities to open up rehab and counseling groups to get people off the tobacco…

cops will id known smokers by the smell of their clothes, frisk em and search em…maybe choke em to see if they got any matches…

of course it’s the kingpin tobacco dealers we have to get put out of business. the bigtime dealers who are moving multiple cartons a day…

it really is lame that cigarettes are not at least a misdemeanor, given the way things are…not necessarily how they should be…a reasonable parallel regime for cigs v the current drug laws is to make 1st time possession a misdemeanor, gte into rehab, then make subsequent possessions a felony. also, weekly tests for nicotine int he bloodstream…

federally, growing more than one acre of tobacco should be a death penalty case…

[spdrun]

scaredyclassic, I think IS has you beat to it…
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/05/16/07/isis-burn-banned-cigarettes-and-alcohol-on-bonfires

“ISIL has banned drinking and smoking in their occupied territories in Iraq and Syria because it violates Sharia Law.

In the photos – believed to have been taken in Tikrit, Iraq – armed jihadists wave the black ISIL flag while others load up blazing bonfires with whisky, beer can and cigarette packets.”

G-d is great!

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=spdrun]scaredyclassic, I think IS has you beat to it…
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/05/16/07/isis-burn-banned-cigarettes-and-alcohol-on-bonfires

“ISIL has banned drinking and smoking in their occupied territories in Iraq and Syria because it violates Sharia Law.

In the photos – believed to have been taken in Tikrit, Iraq – armed jihadists wave the black ISIL flag while others load up blazing bonfires with whisky, beer can and cigarette packets.”

G-d is great![/quote]

not different than US drug war

[spdrun]

Both are equally stupid, agreed. Though I think that US “liberals” who want to ban smoking should love ISIS.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=FlyerInHi]Seems pretty clear cut to me. The cop used an illegal chokehold.[/quote]

It is not illegal. It is against NYPD policy. Intentionally choking someone to death is illegal. The chokehold itself is not.[/quote]

Ok. I can accept that. The chokehold is banned by NYPD but not by itself criminalized by state law.

[FlyerInHi]

I bet ISIS militants drink in secret behind closed door. Not all them but many do.

[FlyerInHi]

I’m ok with banning smoking in public. It’s irritating to smell other people’s smoke. There are also public health considerations. But banning smoking completely would be stupid.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I’m ok with banning smoking in public. It’s irritating to smell other people’s smoke. There are also public health considerations. But banning smoking completely would be stupid.[/quote]

why?

[spdrun]

I bet ISIS militants drink in secret behind closed door. Not all them but many do.

If I had to live under a theocracy, I’d drink like a fish.

[spdrun]

why?

Because Prohibition really worked. Yep.

Speaking of which, today is the anniversary of the end of Prohibition. I plan to drink some absinthe, because fuck it.

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