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Jazzman.
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August 6, 2015 at 10:40 PM #21634
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August 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM #788515
spdrun
ParticipantVermont. Liberal firearms laws (read: essentially no laws other than Federal), sparse population (but not so sparse they can’t work communally) relatively cheap land up north, proximity to a national border, relatively hard-working and civilized inhabitants.
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August 8, 2015 at 12:54 PM #788549
paramount
Participant[quote=spdrun]Vermont. Liberal firearms laws (read: essentially no laws other than Federal), sparse population (but not so sparse they can’t work communally) relatively cheap land up north, proximity to a national border, relatively hard-working and civilized inhabitants.[/quote]
Interesting comment. I don’t see a lot of what I would call civility in urban/suburban areas of California.
What I see in California is a lot of desperation; people desperate for jobs, money, water, affordable housing and the list goes on and on.
Too many people, too much scarcity and desperation.
As a result of the desperation, people become less civil. They cheat, steal, lie, bully -> you name it you’ll find it overwhelmingly in California.
It does seem New England is more civil than California,. but then again I’d say the bar is pretty low.
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August 10, 2015 at 11:17 AM #788568
poorgradstudent
ParticipantMinnesota.
Good economy, plenty of agriculture, nice people. The worst part about Minnesota are the winters. Although extreme heat in the summer could be rough, modest changes in temperature that made Minnesota more like Iowa could actually improve the agricultural climate.
Any of the Canadian cities except Vancouver (which will be underwater) coudl be nice too.
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August 15, 2015 at 6:49 PM #788679
FlyerInHi
GuestIn end of times, are nice people still nice when they’re hungry?
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August 15, 2015 at 7:35 PM #788680
NotCranky
ParticipantThis potential disaster sounds really likely. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one
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August 7, 2015 at 2:16 AM #788516
Coronita
ParticipantI’m still planning my emergency escape route to Vancouver BC, in case we ever have a direct conflict with China, and our government decides that want to throw a bunch of us chinese americans into concentration camps, despite me having nothing to do with China….
maybe I’ll resume my real estate search now that the USD => CAN is much better than it was before….
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August 7, 2015 at 7:59 AM #788519
FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=flu]
maybe I’ll resume my real estate search now that the USD => CAN is much better than it was before….[/quote]
Good idea. Canada sounds like about enter recession.
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August 7, 2015 at 10:28 AM #788525
Coronita
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=flu]
maybe I’ll resume my real estate search now that the USD => CAN is much better than it was before….[/quote]
Good idea. Canada sounds like about enter recession.[/quote]
Holy crap. I didn’t know that 1 USD is now 1.31 CAN. I still remember when it was at parity.
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August 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM #788526
The-Shoveler
ParticipantIt’s 1.35 Australian Dollar.
Time to look down under LOL.
the CAN and AUS dollars were actually above the USD at one point.
Just goes to show you what happens when China slows down.
there are some who say we are about to repeat the 1997 Asia crash.
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August 7, 2015 at 11:31 AM #788527
FlyerInHi
GuestFlu,
Until 9/11, canada and usa were pretty much one country, at least as far as Canadians were concerned. Easy to come here for holidays, etc… And in the days before AC, Americans had summer homes in Canada.My Canadian friends who bought at the bottom in USA are now looking to unload much higher to buy in Canada at their next bottom.
If you like Vancouver, by all means, start looking. And get ready to pounce if Canada goes into recession. If China’s growth slows down a lot, then Canada’s prices might get negatively affected.
Unfortunately for me, I have no interest in Canada because it’s too far. Don’t even want to holiday there for any extented periods. Australia is way too far. I’d rather have an apartment in southern France. Maybe when the euro is only Germany, haha.
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August 8, 2015 at 8:51 AM #788543
ltsddd
Participant[quote=flu]I’m still planning my emergency escape route to Vancouver BC, in case we ever have a direct conflict with China, and our government decides that want to throw a bunch of us chinese americans into concentration camps, despite me having nothing to do with China….
maybe I’ll resume my real estate search now that the USD => CAN is much better than it was before….[/quote]
If I had to relocate, Vancouver would be my choice by a big margin. Clean, safe, great public parks and public transportation is second to none. During the summer, there’s still day light late into the evening (9:30 p.m.). Another thing, I notice the people there are generally very fit.
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August 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM #788544
Coronita
Participant[quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]I’m still planning my emergency escape route to Vancouver BC, in case we ever have a direct conflict with China, and our government decides that want to throw a bunch of us chinese americans into concentration camps, despite me having nothing to do with China….
maybe I’ll resume my real estate search now that the USD => CAN is much better than it was before….[/quote]
If I had to relocate, Vancouver would be my choice by a big margin. Clean, safe, great public parks and public transportation is second to none. During the summer, there’s still day light late into the evening (9:30 p.m.). Another thing, I notice the people there are generally very fit.[/quote]
Unfortunately, it’s still out of my price range….:(
This home makes RSF look like a bargain! But that would be an awesome home.
I think that price is quoted in CAN, so with a 1.31:1 exchange rate, that would be only $2.76 million USD. Now, if I could only find $2.76 million in my seat cushions….Why can’t I be one of those rich chinese buyers that shows up at the open house and pays cash đ
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August 8, 2015 at 10:00 AM #788545
FlyerInHi
GuestVancouver doesn’t have many high paying professional jobs as compared to cost of living. To learn cooking, I watch the Hot Thai Kitchen YouTube channel. the host is in Vancouver broadcasting from a high rise apartment.
As far as I can tell, the Chinese still don’t buy trophy properties like the Russians in the top cities.
This fairly high level Chinese bought in Loomis. Why Loomis of all places?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/world/asia/china-seeks-ling-wancheng-businessman-said-to-have-fled-to-us.html?_r=0 -
August 8, 2015 at 11:05 AM #788546
ltsddd
ParticipantRichmond is where you’ll find the most Chinese.
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August 8, 2015 at 12:50 PM #788548
FlyerInHi
GuestThere are lots of Chinese in Toronto also.
So if you’re Chinese, is Vancouver or Toronto better?
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August 8, 2015 at 11:13 AM #788547
ltsddd
Participant[quote=flu][quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]I’m still planning my emergency escape route to Vancouver BC, in case we ever have a direct conflict with China, and our government decides that want to throw a bunch of us chinese americans into concentration camps, despite me having nothing to do with China….
maybe I’ll resume my real estate search now that the USD => CAN is much better than it was before….[/quote]
If I had to relocate, Vancouver would be my choice by a big margin. Clean, safe, great public parks and public transportation is second to none. During the summer, there’s still day light late into the evening (9:30 p.m.). Another thing, I notice the people there are generally very fit.[/quote]
Unfortunately, it’s still out of my price range….:(
This home makes RSF look like a bargain! But that would be an awesome home.
I think that price is quoted in CAN, so with a 1.31:1 exchange rate, that would be only $2.76 million USD. Now, if I could only find $2.76 million in my seat cushions….Why can’t I be one of those rich chinese buyers that shows up at the open house and pays cash :([/quote]
There are less expensive alternatives in Richmond – a 10-15 minutes Skytrain ride to downtown Vancouver.
http://www.rew.ca/properties/V1136338/1201-6888-alderbridge-way-richmond
…but you’re right, real estate is generally more expensive than san diego’s. This one makes san diego looks like a rock bottom bargain:
http://www.rew.ca/properties/V1136058/7971-willowfield-drive-richmond
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August 7, 2015 at 6:26 AM #788517
The-Shoveler
ParticipantI think SoCal is the best place to ride out the end times.
Not an expert but I think the warmer it gets the wetter it will get in SoCal also I think they said the gulf stream would shut down and that would actually cause the more northern latitudes to freeze over.
But I am still on the fence about the whole warming thing and think it may be being blown way out of proportion.
I was hearing that if you charted the parts-per-million over the last 60 million years or so we are still quite below average.
I should have added SoCal 300 or so feet above sea level.
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August 7, 2015 at 7:15 AM #788518
scaredyclassic
Participanti kind of feel like southern cal is a decent bet for the remainder of my life. but change could come fast
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August 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM #788529
moneymaker
ParticipantI concur about 300 ft. or higher, personally I’m at 460 ft.
All the talk about oceans rising yet I’ve been going to the ocean now for over 45 years and it still looks the same to me so I don’t think the threat is imminent.-
August 7, 2015 at 2:19 PM #788530
The-Shoveler
ParticipantYep me too, Ocean still looks the same as it did 50 years ago.
There were bad storms, long heat waves and bad droughts in the 60’s and 70’s, people used to freeze to death back east all the time.
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August 7, 2015 at 4:24 PM #788533
flyer
ParticipantWill stick with SoCal near the beach until the end, with a touch of here and there around the globe now and then.
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August 7, 2015 at 8:15 AM #788522
FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=scaredyclassic]
is this any more ridiculous than spending a lot of money to put ina bomb shelter in the 50s?[/quote]Not ridiculous. If it happens, you’ll be the one laughing “I told you so”
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August 7, 2015 at 8:16 AM #788520
FlyerInHi
GuestThe US mainland has too many guns.
If there is collapse of order, you don’t wan’t to be within easy access of hungry marauders with guns (unless you are wealthy enough to afford a militia).A mountainous tropical island out do the way is best. Have a veggie garden, raise some chicken and rabbit. You can be self-sustaining while the crazies fight over the big land masses. A solar and wind power house with a rain water collection system. Accessible only by boat.
I think that’s why Larry Ellison owns a Hawaiian island.
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August 7, 2015 at 9:31 AM #788523
livinincali
ParticipantStill buying into that global warming garbage. Notice how they’ve changed the marketing approach from global warming to climate change because the dire warming they were predicting doesn’t seem to be coming to fruition. I don’t see a whole lot of warming in these temperatures. Maybe you could make a case for a couples tenths of degree C in the past 30 years.
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August 7, 2015 at 10:35 AM #788524
FlyerInHi
GuestLivin’, you’re wrong about the terminology.
Climate change is a term favored by skeptics.When growing up I always heard “global warming”; and that was when caring for the environment was weird. I remember when catalytic converters and unleaded fuel were seen as destroying the economy. That was when LA had smog alerts several times per week.
“Climate change” happened around the late 1990 when the establishment started to come to terms with the issue.
Republican political strategist Frank Luntz in a controversial memo advising conservative politicians on communicating about the environment:
Itâs time for us to start talking about âclimate changeâ instead of global warming and âconservationâ instead of preservation.
âClimate changeâ is less frightening than âglobal warmingâ. As one focus group participant noted, climate change âsounds like youâre going from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale.â While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to it, climate change suggests a more controllable and less emotional challenge.
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August 7, 2015 at 1:17 PM #788528
(former)FormerSanDiegan
ParticipantI’m no climate expert, but it ;ooks to me like it’s about 0.4 degrees Celsius (about 0.7 degrees Fahrenheit) over this period.
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[quote=livinincali]Still buying into that global warming garbage. Notice how they’ve changed the marketing approach from global warming to climate change because the dire warming they were predicting doesn’t seem to be coming to fruition. I don’t see a whole lot of warming in these temperatures. Maybe you could make a case for a couples tenths of degree C in the past 30 years.
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August 19, 2015 at 11:09 PM #788758
Jazzman
ParticipantYou can actually buy bomb shelters on the cheap at the moment, and I don’t think the rich are any more savvy about remote outposts than anyone else. There is no ‘better’ place to go (if you exclude the universe). The best place to be is a mindset of prevention and preparedness.
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