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August 14, 2011 at 9:30 AM #720221August 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM #719006ArrayaParticipant
[quote=EconProf]The bill that was passed had nothing to do with reform. It merely expanded government into the medical sector with a Medicare-style approach. The unnecessarily expensive and doomed Medicare model was used with no thought given to incentives.
.[/quote]My God and does the medical sector ever love the iron fist of state force feeding it gobs of money. It’s giddy with excitement. In fact – THEY WROTE THE BILL!! I think it is apparent that big mega-industries hate the “free market”
August 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM #719098ArrayaParticipant[quote=EconProf]The bill that was passed had nothing to do with reform. It merely expanded government into the medical sector with a Medicare-style approach. The unnecessarily expensive and doomed Medicare model was used with no thought given to incentives.
.[/quote]My God and does the medical sector ever love the iron fist of state force feeding it gobs of money. It’s giddy with excitement. In fact – THEY WROTE THE BILL!! I think it is apparent that big mega-industries hate the “free market”
August 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM #719698ArrayaParticipant[quote=EconProf]The bill that was passed had nothing to do with reform. It merely expanded government into the medical sector with a Medicare-style approach. The unnecessarily expensive and doomed Medicare model was used with no thought given to incentives.
.[/quote]My God and does the medical sector ever love the iron fist of state force feeding it gobs of money. It’s giddy with excitement. In fact – THEY WROTE THE BILL!! I think it is apparent that big mega-industries hate the “free market”
August 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM #719856ArrayaParticipant[quote=EconProf]The bill that was passed had nothing to do with reform. It merely expanded government into the medical sector with a Medicare-style approach. The unnecessarily expensive and doomed Medicare model was used with no thought given to incentives.
.[/quote]My God and does the medical sector ever love the iron fist of state force feeding it gobs of money. It’s giddy with excitement. In fact – THEY WROTE THE BILL!! I think it is apparent that big mega-industries hate the “free market”
August 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM #720216ArrayaParticipant[quote=EconProf]The bill that was passed had nothing to do with reform. It merely expanded government into the medical sector with a Medicare-style approach. The unnecessarily expensive and doomed Medicare model was used with no thought given to incentives.
.[/quote]My God and does the medical sector ever love the iron fist of state force feeding it gobs of money. It’s giddy with excitement. In fact – THEY WROTE THE BILL!! I think it is apparent that big mega-industries hate the “free market”
August 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM #719021XBoxBoyParticipantFlu, Flu, Flu,
You’re looking at this all wrong. This isn’t about bringing benefit to you, this is about bringing benefit to big companies that make campaign contributions.
[quote=flu]What I have seen so far is:
1)My out of pocket insurance expenses have increased significantly.
[/quote]
So that’s a benefit for the profits of the health insurance companies.[quote=flu]2)The amount of coverage has decreased significantly[/quote]
Nothing like cutting costs to help the bottom line![quote=flu]3)Company has reduced what it pays to insurance but passed more of the cost on to individuals.[/quote]
Well, just like bringing benefit to health insurance companies, it’s important that we bring profits to companies like the one you work for, allowing them to reduce their costs and push those costs onto you. Remember that it’s these big companies and big banks that are so vital to our economic growth. Why without them we would be having high unemployment and stagnant growth. We must not allow them to suffer.
[quote=flu]4)And now lower appeals court is saying not everyone needs to pay for a mandatory insurance plan….[/quote]
Well this last bit is truly shocking and shows you how disfunctional our system is. How in the world can insurance companies survive and be profitable if we can’t require everyone to purchase an insurance plan? Really something should be done about this.
August 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM #719113XBoxBoyParticipantFlu, Flu, Flu,
You’re looking at this all wrong. This isn’t about bringing benefit to you, this is about bringing benefit to big companies that make campaign contributions.
[quote=flu]What I have seen so far is:
1)My out of pocket insurance expenses have increased significantly.
[/quote]
So that’s a benefit for the profits of the health insurance companies.[quote=flu]2)The amount of coverage has decreased significantly[/quote]
Nothing like cutting costs to help the bottom line![quote=flu]3)Company has reduced what it pays to insurance but passed more of the cost on to individuals.[/quote]
Well, just like bringing benefit to health insurance companies, it’s important that we bring profits to companies like the one you work for, allowing them to reduce their costs and push those costs onto you. Remember that it’s these big companies and big banks that are so vital to our economic growth. Why without them we would be having high unemployment and stagnant growth. We must not allow them to suffer.
[quote=flu]4)And now lower appeals court is saying not everyone needs to pay for a mandatory insurance plan….[/quote]
Well this last bit is truly shocking and shows you how disfunctional our system is. How in the world can insurance companies survive and be profitable if we can’t require everyone to purchase an insurance plan? Really something should be done about this.
August 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM #719713XBoxBoyParticipantFlu, Flu, Flu,
You’re looking at this all wrong. This isn’t about bringing benefit to you, this is about bringing benefit to big companies that make campaign contributions.
[quote=flu]What I have seen so far is:
1)My out of pocket insurance expenses have increased significantly.
[/quote]
So that’s a benefit for the profits of the health insurance companies.[quote=flu]2)The amount of coverage has decreased significantly[/quote]
Nothing like cutting costs to help the bottom line![quote=flu]3)Company has reduced what it pays to insurance but passed more of the cost on to individuals.[/quote]
Well, just like bringing benefit to health insurance companies, it’s important that we bring profits to companies like the one you work for, allowing them to reduce their costs and push those costs onto you. Remember that it’s these big companies and big banks that are so vital to our economic growth. Why without them we would be having high unemployment and stagnant growth. We must not allow them to suffer.
[quote=flu]4)And now lower appeals court is saying not everyone needs to pay for a mandatory insurance plan….[/quote]
Well this last bit is truly shocking and shows you how disfunctional our system is. How in the world can insurance companies survive and be profitable if we can’t require everyone to purchase an insurance plan? Really something should be done about this.
August 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM #719871XBoxBoyParticipantFlu, Flu, Flu,
You’re looking at this all wrong. This isn’t about bringing benefit to you, this is about bringing benefit to big companies that make campaign contributions.
[quote=flu]What I have seen so far is:
1)My out of pocket insurance expenses have increased significantly.
[/quote]
So that’s a benefit for the profits of the health insurance companies.[quote=flu]2)The amount of coverage has decreased significantly[/quote]
Nothing like cutting costs to help the bottom line![quote=flu]3)Company has reduced what it pays to insurance but passed more of the cost on to individuals.[/quote]
Well, just like bringing benefit to health insurance companies, it’s important that we bring profits to companies like the one you work for, allowing them to reduce their costs and push those costs onto you. Remember that it’s these big companies and big banks that are so vital to our economic growth. Why without them we would be having high unemployment and stagnant growth. We must not allow them to suffer.
[quote=flu]4)And now lower appeals court is saying not everyone needs to pay for a mandatory insurance plan….[/quote]
Well this last bit is truly shocking and shows you how disfunctional our system is. How in the world can insurance companies survive and be profitable if we can’t require everyone to purchase an insurance plan? Really something should be done about this.
August 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM #720231XBoxBoyParticipantFlu, Flu, Flu,
You’re looking at this all wrong. This isn’t about bringing benefit to you, this is about bringing benefit to big companies that make campaign contributions.
[quote=flu]What I have seen so far is:
1)My out of pocket insurance expenses have increased significantly.
[/quote]
So that’s a benefit for the profits of the health insurance companies.[quote=flu]2)The amount of coverage has decreased significantly[/quote]
Nothing like cutting costs to help the bottom line![quote=flu]3)Company has reduced what it pays to insurance but passed more of the cost on to individuals.[/quote]
Well, just like bringing benefit to health insurance companies, it’s important that we bring profits to companies like the one you work for, allowing them to reduce their costs and push those costs onto you. Remember that it’s these big companies and big banks that are so vital to our economic growth. Why without them we would be having high unemployment and stagnant growth. We must not allow them to suffer.
[quote=flu]4)And now lower appeals court is saying not everyone needs to pay for a mandatory insurance plan….[/quote]
Well this last bit is truly shocking and shows you how disfunctional our system is. How in the world can insurance companies survive and be profitable if we can’t require everyone to purchase an insurance plan? Really something should be done about this.
August 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM #719036GHParticipantMedical insurance should be insurance, not managed care first of all. Got a cold, sniffles, cut on your litle finger and want to PAY the doctor to make it better? Go ahead.
Got run over by a bus? That is where insurance is traditionally needed in other areas where insurance is used like car insurance for example.
As a self employed person I find my health insurance options severly limited because health insurance is strongly tilted towards LARGE employers under the group health plan mentality.
Want to reform health insurance in a way that saves money and makes sense? Let me go to CostCo or my favorite Health insurance store and buy the SAME EXACT policy they give to their employees. Let me buy across state lines. If and I am approved for insurance, make the legal assumption the insurer has run ALL needed background investigations and concluded I am qualified for their plan, rather than having them deny my claim later after finding out I tried a cigarette in High School…
IMO – None of these issues are addressed in ObamaCare and it is a Cluster …
August 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM #719128GHParticipantMedical insurance should be insurance, not managed care first of all. Got a cold, sniffles, cut on your litle finger and want to PAY the doctor to make it better? Go ahead.
Got run over by a bus? That is where insurance is traditionally needed in other areas where insurance is used like car insurance for example.
As a self employed person I find my health insurance options severly limited because health insurance is strongly tilted towards LARGE employers under the group health plan mentality.
Want to reform health insurance in a way that saves money and makes sense? Let me go to CostCo or my favorite Health insurance store and buy the SAME EXACT policy they give to their employees. Let me buy across state lines. If and I am approved for insurance, make the legal assumption the insurer has run ALL needed background investigations and concluded I am qualified for their plan, rather than having them deny my claim later after finding out I tried a cigarette in High School…
IMO – None of these issues are addressed in ObamaCare and it is a Cluster …
August 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM #719728GHParticipantMedical insurance should be insurance, not managed care first of all. Got a cold, sniffles, cut on your litle finger and want to PAY the doctor to make it better? Go ahead.
Got run over by a bus? That is where insurance is traditionally needed in other areas where insurance is used like car insurance for example.
As a self employed person I find my health insurance options severly limited because health insurance is strongly tilted towards LARGE employers under the group health plan mentality.
Want to reform health insurance in a way that saves money and makes sense? Let me go to CostCo or my favorite Health insurance store and buy the SAME EXACT policy they give to their employees. Let me buy across state lines. If and I am approved for insurance, make the legal assumption the insurer has run ALL needed background investigations and concluded I am qualified for their plan, rather than having them deny my claim later after finding out I tried a cigarette in High School…
IMO – None of these issues are addressed in ObamaCare and it is a Cluster …
August 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM #719885GHParticipantMedical insurance should be insurance, not managed care first of all. Got a cold, sniffles, cut on your litle finger and want to PAY the doctor to make it better? Go ahead.
Got run over by a bus? That is where insurance is traditionally needed in other areas where insurance is used like car insurance for example.
As a self employed person I find my health insurance options severly limited because health insurance is strongly tilted towards LARGE employers under the group health plan mentality.
Want to reform health insurance in a way that saves money and makes sense? Let me go to CostCo or my favorite Health insurance store and buy the SAME EXACT policy they give to their employees. Let me buy across state lines. If and I am approved for insurance, make the legal assumption the insurer has run ALL needed background investigations and concluded I am qualified for their plan, rather than having them deny my claim later after finding out I tried a cigarette in High School…
IMO – None of these issues are addressed in ObamaCare and it is a Cluster …
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