More Signs of Weakness in Carlsbad – 92011

[waiting for bottom]

Aviara is now beginning to crack.

1603 Maritime – Listed at $850K – Last Sale $943K 6/05

1583 Maritime – Listed at $870K – Last Sale $950K 2/06

Two other houses on this street with similar pricing. I think it is clear we are at least back to 2005 pricing in a golden area.

[Bugs]

And they said it would never happen in Carlsbad. Tsk, tsk.

[sdrealtor]

SEH is getting slaughtered as expected by everyone. Those houses on Maritime are not in Aviara. There are also under the biggest powerlines I have ever seen not to mention impacted by frequent landings and takeoffs at Palomar Airport.

[svelte]

Those particular homes don’t appear to be near the powerlines, but they both do back up to a busy 4 lane road.

As everyone keeps saying, only the homes that are impeccable in all respects are going to sell in this environment. If the home has warts it is going to get kicked in the teeth.

Wouldn’t you do the same thing if you were a buyer with zillions of choices?

[sdrealtor]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

[svelte]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

The nearest of the two is 1603:

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=66110966

The Zillow pic matches my memory. The power lines are about 400-500 feet to the right (pan to the right in the pic).
Unless they have built new powerlines directly overhead since the Zillow pic was taken, they appear to be near but not under the powerlines. I supposed we could argue about whether 400-500 ft is too close. Apparently it is for you.

[waiting for bottom]

Looks like we caught sdrealtor using both sides of the “it is what it is” argument…..or is it “close enough?”

[waiting for bottom]

I was speaking only to the 92009 that I have a prayer of affording.

[waiting for bottom]

Also, I see no difference between SEH (92078), Rancho Carillo (92009) and Calavera Hills (92010) from a livablility standpoint.

I would take SEH every time. It is cheaper, mostly newer, and the schools are better than Calavera, same as Carillo.

But I want to live in 92011. Just waiting for the virus to infect them. The data here shows it is starting.

[farbet]

sd renter asked you whether you visited the locations on Maritime physically. DID YOU? I DID
1. There are the power lines. Huge ones.
2.There was a short sale a few months ago at the house on Maritime and Black Rail.
3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
TRITON and Black Rail horse farm there.Huge horse flies

Imagine a BBQ and the wind brings the smell.
Pity the fools that bought new houses on Triton Street about 20 feet(horse farm) across from the most awful smell
Triton has a few resales after a year. I wonder why !!

[niy38]

every time I drive in Palomar Airport RD I smell it.

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3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
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[niy38]

every time I drive in Palomar Airport RD I smell it.

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3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
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[niy38]

every time I drive in Palomar Airport RD I smell it.

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3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
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[niy38]

every time I drive in Palomar Airport RD I smell it.

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3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
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[niy38]

every time I drive in Palomar Airport RD I smell it.

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3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
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[farbet]

sd renter asked you whether you visited the locations on Maritime physically. DID YOU? I DID
1. There are the power lines. Huge ones.
2.There was a short sale a few months ago at the house on Maritime and Black Rail.
3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
TRITON and Black Rail horse farm there.Huge horse flies

Imagine a BBQ and the wind brings the smell.
Pity the fools that bought new houses on Triton Street about 20 feet(horse farm) across from the most awful smell
Triton has a few resales after a year. I wonder why !!

[farbet]

sd renter asked you whether you visited the locations on Maritime physically. DID YOU? I DID
1. There are the power lines. Huge ones.
2.There was a short sale a few months ago at the house on Maritime and Black Rail.
3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
TRITON and Black Rail horse farm there.Huge horse flies

Imagine a BBQ and the wind brings the smell.
Pity the fools that bought new houses on Triton Street about 20 feet(horse farm) across from the most awful smell
Triton has a few resales after a year. I wonder why !!

[farbet]

sd renter asked you whether you visited the locations on Maritime physically. DID YOU? I DID
1. There are the power lines. Huge ones.
2.There was a short sale a few months ago at the house on Maritime and Black Rail.
3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
TRITON and Black Rail horse farm there.Huge horse flies

Imagine a BBQ and the wind brings the smell.
Pity the fools that bought new houses on Triton Street about 20 feet(horse farm) across from the most awful smell
Triton has a few resales after a year. I wonder why !!

[farbet]

sd renter asked you whether you visited the locations on Maritime physically. DID YOU? I DID
1. There are the power lines. Huge ones.
2.There was a short sale a few months ago at the house on Maritime and Black Rail.
3 While in the backyard(Poinsetta Road}. There was this strong odor of Horse PEE and Horse Manure from across
TRITON and Black Rail horse farm there.Huge horse flies

Imagine a BBQ and the wind brings the smell.
Pity the fools that bought new houses on Triton Street about 20 feet(horse farm) across from the most awful smell
Triton has a few resales after a year. I wonder why !!

[niy38]

I would choose Santa Fe Hill ( 92069) over SEH:

Santa Fe Hill is much affordable than SEH, and
it has good primary school. Very easy access to
78 and shopping and recreation center is just across
78.

[waiting for bottom]

Yes, I have phisically visited them and yes I would buy them at the right price.

92069 over SEH??? Give me a break. Primary school may be OK at best, but the middle school over there is horrible. Puhleeeeze.

[farbet]

Prices are staring to crumble in 92009, 92011,92024.I do believe it will pick up in a few weeks.

[sdrealtor]

Farbet prices have been declining in 009, 011 and 024 for 2 years at a slow and steady pace. The less desirable portions (Carillo etc.) have been hit harder. I believe the prices will strengthen a bit after the New Year as the relo folks come pouring in in their annual migration.

[farbet]

Corner of South Melrose & Rancho Santa Fe
Carlsbad, CA 92009

53 Melrose –
COMING SOON! 53 Melrose is a charming new-home community designed with young and growing families in mind. Whether you’re just starting out or planning to move up to a bigger home with better amenities, your address of choice is finally here. Located in Carlsbad, 53 Melrose keeps you near every place you want to be. Shopping, dining, and a range of adventure parks and family-friendly outdoor recreation is literally at your doorstep. Come home to the good life waiting to be lived at 53 Melrose.
I am waiting for this .

http://www.drhorton.com/corp/GetCommunity.do?dv=Z2&pr=44493

[sdrealtor]

Farbet
The website said prices are expected to start in the 600’s.

sdr

[sdrealtor]

Farbet
The website said prices are expected to start in the 600’s.

sdr

[sdrealtor]

Farbet
The website said prices are expected to start in the 600’s.

sdr

[sdrealtor]

Farbet
The website said prices are expected to start in the 600’s.

sdr

[sdrealtor]

Farbet
The website said prices are expected to start in the 600’s.

sdr

[farbet]

Corner of South Melrose & Rancho Santa Fe
Carlsbad, CA 92009

53 Melrose –
COMING SOON! 53 Melrose is a charming new-home community designed with young and growing families in mind. Whether you’re just starting out or planning to move up to a bigger home with better amenities, your address of choice is finally here. Located in Carlsbad, 53 Melrose keeps you near every place you want to be. Shopping, dining, and a range of adventure parks and family-friendly outdoor recreation is literally at your doorstep. Come home to the good life waiting to be lived at 53 Melrose.
I am waiting for this .

http://www.drhorton.com/corp/GetCommunity.do?dv=Z2&pr=44493

[farbet]

Corner of South Melrose & Rancho Santa Fe
Carlsbad, CA 92009

53 Melrose –
COMING SOON! 53 Melrose is a charming new-home community designed with young and growing families in mind. Whether you’re just starting out or planning to move up to a bigger home with better amenities, your address of choice is finally here. Located in Carlsbad, 53 Melrose keeps you near every place you want to be. Shopping, dining, and a range of adventure parks and family-friendly outdoor recreation is literally at your doorstep. Come home to the good life waiting to be lived at 53 Melrose.
I am waiting for this .

http://www.drhorton.com/corp/GetCommunity.do?dv=Z2&pr=44493

[farbet]

Corner of South Melrose & Rancho Santa Fe
Carlsbad, CA 92009

53 Melrose –
COMING SOON! 53 Melrose is a charming new-home community designed with young and growing families in mind. Whether you’re just starting out or planning to move up to a bigger home with better amenities, your address of choice is finally here. Located in Carlsbad, 53 Melrose keeps you near every place you want to be. Shopping, dining, and a range of adventure parks and family-friendly outdoor recreation is literally at your doorstep. Come home to the good life waiting to be lived at 53 Melrose.
I am waiting for this .

http://www.drhorton.com/corp/GetCommunity.do?dv=Z2&pr=44493

[farbet]

Corner of South Melrose & Rancho Santa Fe
Carlsbad, CA 92009

53 Melrose –
COMING SOON! 53 Melrose is a charming new-home community designed with young and growing families in mind. Whether you’re just starting out or planning to move up to a bigger home with better amenities, your address of choice is finally here. Located in Carlsbad, 53 Melrose keeps you near every place you want to be. Shopping, dining, and a range of adventure parks and family-friendly outdoor recreation is literally at your doorstep. Come home to the good life waiting to be lived at 53 Melrose.
I am waiting for this .

http://www.drhorton.com/corp/GetCommunity.do?dv=Z2&pr=44493

[waiting for bottom]

There you go being a bull again. Prices will rise in 2008???

What relo person is going to buy in this market? Every single one I know (myself included) has decided to rent.

SEH Mello roos are only huge in the Questhaven area. They are ~$2000 near the town center. Calavera, Carillo, and other parts of Carlsbad have ~$800 fees. $100 per month difference in not huge.

High school? My oldest kid is 2. I’ll give them 12 years to get that straightened out.

[sdrealtor]

Didnt say prices will rise, I said they will strengthen as demand returns meaning that prices wont continuing dropping steeply through Spring.

Plenty of Relo people will buy. They always do.

[farbet]

sdr, How many corporate owned houses for sale on the MLS.
Those that are for sale are taking a beating.

[sdrealtor]

Very few in 92009, 92011 and 92024.

[sdrealtor]

Very few in 92009, 92011 and 92024.

[sdrealtor]

Very few in 92009, 92011 and 92024.

[sdrealtor]

Very few in 92009, 92011 and 92024.

[sdrealtor]

Very few in 92009, 92011 and 92024.

[farbet]

sdr, How many corporate owned houses for sale on the MLS.
Those that are for sale are taking a beating.

[farbet]

sdr, How many corporate owned houses for sale on the MLS.
Those that are for sale are taking a beating.

[farbet]

sdr, How many corporate owned houses for sale on the MLS.
Those that are for sale are taking a beating.

[farbet]

sdr, How many corporate owned houses for sale on the MLS.
Those that are for sale are taking a beating.

[waiting for bottom]

sdrealtor – you may or may not be a knowledable guy but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth consistenly here.

Any way you slice it, you are being bullish on the biggest bear market we have ever seen. “I didn’t say they would rise, I said they would stregnthen”. You should run for President as a Senator from MA with all this flip-flopping.

They always buy, right. Just like houses always go up in value.

[waiting for bottom]

Relo people who have not bought since I move here in August:

Corporate finance – 150K+, rents in Carrillo
Operations Director – 130-160K, rents in “Aviara”
Lawyer – don’t know – rents in Alga Hills
Construction manager – 150K+ – rents in Oceanside
Self employed – don’t know but spends like crazy – rents in Calavera Hills

That’s 5 in 3 months. All waiting for the bottom just like yours truly. These are just random people my wife has met through play groups.

[farbet]

With the Credit Crunch and Corporate uncertainty for 2008,why would people buy.
All those office buildings are mostly empty in Carlsbad and in San Diego as a whole.

[farbet]

With the Credit Crunch and Corporate uncertainty for 2008,why would people buy.
All those office buildings are mostly empty in Carlsbad and in San Diego as a whole.

[farbet]

With the Credit Crunch and Corporate uncertainty for 2008,why would people buy.
All those office buildings are mostly empty in Carlsbad and in San Diego as a whole.

[farbet]

With the Credit Crunch and Corporate uncertainty for 2008,why would people buy.
All those office buildings are mostly empty in Carlsbad and in San Diego as a whole.

[farbet]

With the Credit Crunch and Corporate uncertainty for 2008,why would people buy.
All those office buildings are mostly empty in Carlsbad and in San Diego as a whole.

[waiting for bottom]

Relo people who have not bought since I move here in August:

Corporate finance – 150K+, rents in Carrillo
Operations Director – 130-160K, rents in “Aviara”
Lawyer – don’t know – rents in Alga Hills
Construction manager – 150K+ – rents in Oceanside
Self employed – don’t know but spends like crazy – rents in Calavera Hills

That’s 5 in 3 months. All waiting for the bottom just like yours truly. These are just random people my wife has met through play groups.

[waiting for bottom]

Relo people who have not bought since I move here in August:

Corporate finance – 150K+, rents in Carrillo
Operations Director – 130-160K, rents in “Aviara”
Lawyer – don’t know – rents in Alga Hills
Construction manager – 150K+ – rents in Oceanside
Self employed – don’t know but spends like crazy – rents in Calavera Hills

That’s 5 in 3 months. All waiting for the bottom just like yours truly. These are just random people my wife has met through play groups.

[waiting for bottom]

Relo people who have not bought since I move here in August:

Corporate finance – 150K+, rents in Carrillo
Operations Director – 130-160K, rents in “Aviara”
Lawyer – don’t know – rents in Alga Hills
Construction manager – 150K+ – rents in Oceanside
Self employed – don’t know but spends like crazy – rents in Calavera Hills

That’s 5 in 3 months. All waiting for the bottom just like yours truly. These are just random people my wife has met through play groups.

[waiting for bottom]

Relo people who have not bought since I move here in August:

Corporate finance – 150K+, rents in Carrillo
Operations Director – 130-160K, rents in “Aviara”
Lawyer – don’t know – rents in Alga Hills
Construction manager – 150K+ – rents in Oceanside
Self employed – don’t know but spends like crazy – rents in Calavera Hills

That’s 5 in 3 months. All waiting for the bottom just like yours truly. These are just random people my wife has met through play groups.

[waiting for bottom]

sdrealtor – you may or may not be a knowledable guy but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth consistenly here.

Any way you slice it, you are being bullish on the biggest bear market we have ever seen. “I didn’t say they would rise, I said they would stregnthen”. You should run for President as a Senator from MA with all this flip-flopping.

They always buy, right. Just like houses always go up in value.

[waiting for bottom]

sdrealtor – you may or may not be a knowledable guy but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth consistenly here.

Any way you slice it, you are being bullish on the biggest bear market we have ever seen. “I didn’t say they would rise, I said they would stregnthen”. You should run for President as a Senator from MA with all this flip-flopping.

They always buy, right. Just like houses always go up in value.

[waiting for bottom]

sdrealtor – you may or may not be a knowledable guy but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth consistenly here.

Any way you slice it, you are being bullish on the biggest bear market we have ever seen. “I didn’t say they would rise, I said they would stregnthen”. You should run for President as a Senator from MA with all this flip-flopping.

They always buy, right. Just like houses always go up in value.

[waiting for bottom]

sdrealtor – you may or may not be a knowledable guy but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth consistenly here.

Any way you slice it, you are being bullish on the biggest bear market we have ever seen. “I didn’t say they would rise, I said they would stregnthen”. You should run for President as a Senator from MA with all this flip-flopping.

They always buy, right. Just like houses always go up in value.

[niy38]

sdr, what kind of relo people will buy? how many ?
I moved to SD 2 years ago from Phoenix and my salary
doubled but still can not afford a condo in Carlsbad!

[sdrealtor]

Plenty of people buy. I have a friend that moved here from the Midwest. His company bought his house to get him here which he couldnt have sold otherwise. Both he and his wife got big time raises to come here as well as a rich relo package. HH Income went from about 200K to 350K. They bought a house with about 35% down and a mortgage about 1.5X their HH income. They love their house and are glad they bought.

The prices will be lower this Spring than last by about 5 to 10% in this area. One by one your friends will buy as they find they can afford what they truly want. Some this Spring and some next and so on. People with 200K HH incomes can easily afford 500K 30 yr fixed rate mortgages and will start finding homes they like in great areas between 600K and 800K. If you dont buy others will. If you expect to get a great house around here under 500K you will be sadly disappointed IMHO.

[niy38]

let’s do some math here:
1.5 * 350k = 525 K

525/0.65=807 K

with this price, u can find decent SFH in 92009 or
SEH, or even 92011.

BUT, the key is: how many family having income
350K ? don’t tell me those “Plenty of people” are all
CEO, CFO, lawyer, doctor, etc.

sdr, now I find u r really a realtor !!

[SD Realtor]

One thing that I find intriguing is that whenever I post something, invariably very few people interpret what I am writing in the same manner as I thought they would when I posted it….

I read sdr’s post and I don’t view it as being bullish so I guess you guys would paint me in black and white stripes and label me a bad guy… I view his posts in the same manner as my own, that is, I do not see bullishness or denial of a bull market. Rather the contrary…I also do see the same thing that he has said, that the zip codes here in question are going down and have gone down for awhile now. Have these zips fallen in the same manner or at the same rate as say Eastlake? No… can they? Perhaps. Will it happen in a few weeks time? No it will not.

I also would forecast a spring bump. Not a rally where spring prices exceed last spring prices, but an INCREASE in activity because that is typical of seasonal cycles regardless of the secular trend. To expect otherwise would indeed be illogical. Does it signify a change in direction? Not at all, but my interpretation of sdrs posts didn’t detect that at all. I am not saying a million midwesterners are gonna relocate here or anything like that. I am just saying that overall data ALWAYS SHOWS that there are more sales closed in the months of march, april, may and june then any other months. Back out those timeframes by 30 days (typical escrow length) and that would indicate that if there is anytime of the year that we see increases in homes going into escrow it is in the spring.

It is not a trend reversal nor is it being bullish. It is simply a statement of fact that there are always more closed escrows in the spring then any other time of year.

Why is that interpreted as being a bull? All secular markets have cyclical components last I checked. These increases do not mean a stalling of the depreciation cycle but they may serve to do a small amount of buoying in certain areas. It will fade as we move into summer…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

One thing that I find intriguing is that whenever I post something, invariably very few people interpret what I am writing in the same manner as I thought they would when I posted it….

I read sdr’s post and I don’t view it as being bullish so I guess you guys would paint me in black and white stripes and label me a bad guy… I view his posts in the same manner as my own, that is, I do not see bullishness or denial of a bull market. Rather the contrary…I also do see the same thing that he has said, that the zip codes here in question are going down and have gone down for awhile now. Have these zips fallen in the same manner or at the same rate as say Eastlake? No… can they? Perhaps. Will it happen in a few weeks time? No it will not.

I also would forecast a spring bump. Not a rally where spring prices exceed last spring prices, but an INCREASE in activity because that is typical of seasonal cycles regardless of the secular trend. To expect otherwise would indeed be illogical. Does it signify a change in direction? Not at all, but my interpretation of sdrs posts didn’t detect that at all. I am not saying a million midwesterners are gonna relocate here or anything like that. I am just saying that overall data ALWAYS SHOWS that there are more sales closed in the months of march, april, may and june then any other months. Back out those timeframes by 30 days (typical escrow length) and that would indicate that if there is anytime of the year that we see increases in homes going into escrow it is in the spring.

It is not a trend reversal nor is it being bullish. It is simply a statement of fact that there are always more closed escrows in the spring then any other time of year.

Why is that interpreted as being a bull? All secular markets have cyclical components last I checked. These increases do not mean a stalling of the depreciation cycle but they may serve to do a small amount of buoying in certain areas. It will fade as we move into summer…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

One thing that I find intriguing is that whenever I post something, invariably very few people interpret what I am writing in the same manner as I thought they would when I posted it….

I read sdr’s post and I don’t view it as being bullish so I guess you guys would paint me in black and white stripes and label me a bad guy… I view his posts in the same manner as my own, that is, I do not see bullishness or denial of a bull market. Rather the contrary…I also do see the same thing that he has said, that the zip codes here in question are going down and have gone down for awhile now. Have these zips fallen in the same manner or at the same rate as say Eastlake? No… can they? Perhaps. Will it happen in a few weeks time? No it will not.

I also would forecast a spring bump. Not a rally where spring prices exceed last spring prices, but an INCREASE in activity because that is typical of seasonal cycles regardless of the secular trend. To expect otherwise would indeed be illogical. Does it signify a change in direction? Not at all, but my interpretation of sdrs posts didn’t detect that at all. I am not saying a million midwesterners are gonna relocate here or anything like that. I am just saying that overall data ALWAYS SHOWS that there are more sales closed in the months of march, april, may and june then any other months. Back out those timeframes by 30 days (typical escrow length) and that would indicate that if there is anytime of the year that we see increases in homes going into escrow it is in the spring.

It is not a trend reversal nor is it being bullish. It is simply a statement of fact that there are always more closed escrows in the spring then any other time of year.

Why is that interpreted as being a bull? All secular markets have cyclical components last I checked. These increases do not mean a stalling of the depreciation cycle but they may serve to do a small amount of buoying in certain areas. It will fade as we move into summer…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

One thing that I find intriguing is that whenever I post something, invariably very few people interpret what I am writing in the same manner as I thought they would when I posted it….

I read sdr’s post and I don’t view it as being bullish so I guess you guys would paint me in black and white stripes and label me a bad guy… I view his posts in the same manner as my own, that is, I do not see bullishness or denial of a bull market. Rather the contrary…I also do see the same thing that he has said, that the zip codes here in question are going down and have gone down for awhile now. Have these zips fallen in the same manner or at the same rate as say Eastlake? No… can they? Perhaps. Will it happen in a few weeks time? No it will not.

I also would forecast a spring bump. Not a rally where spring prices exceed last spring prices, but an INCREASE in activity because that is typical of seasonal cycles regardless of the secular trend. To expect otherwise would indeed be illogical. Does it signify a change in direction? Not at all, but my interpretation of sdrs posts didn’t detect that at all. I am not saying a million midwesterners are gonna relocate here or anything like that. I am just saying that overall data ALWAYS SHOWS that there are more sales closed in the months of march, april, may and june then any other months. Back out those timeframes by 30 days (typical escrow length) and that would indicate that if there is anytime of the year that we see increases in homes going into escrow it is in the spring.

It is not a trend reversal nor is it being bullish. It is simply a statement of fact that there are always more closed escrows in the spring then any other time of year.

Why is that interpreted as being a bull? All secular markets have cyclical components last I checked. These increases do not mean a stalling of the depreciation cycle but they may serve to do a small amount of buoying in certain areas. It will fade as we move into summer…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

One thing that I find intriguing is that whenever I post something, invariably very few people interpret what I am writing in the same manner as I thought they would when I posted it….

I read sdr’s post and I don’t view it as being bullish so I guess you guys would paint me in black and white stripes and label me a bad guy… I view his posts in the same manner as my own, that is, I do not see bullishness or denial of a bull market. Rather the contrary…I also do see the same thing that he has said, that the zip codes here in question are going down and have gone down for awhile now. Have these zips fallen in the same manner or at the same rate as say Eastlake? No… can they? Perhaps. Will it happen in a few weeks time? No it will not.

I also would forecast a spring bump. Not a rally where spring prices exceed last spring prices, but an INCREASE in activity because that is typical of seasonal cycles regardless of the secular trend. To expect otherwise would indeed be illogical. Does it signify a change in direction? Not at all, but my interpretation of sdrs posts didn’t detect that at all. I am not saying a million midwesterners are gonna relocate here or anything like that. I am just saying that overall data ALWAYS SHOWS that there are more sales closed in the months of march, april, may and june then any other months. Back out those timeframes by 30 days (typical escrow length) and that would indicate that if there is anytime of the year that we see increases in homes going into escrow it is in the spring.

It is not a trend reversal nor is it being bullish. It is simply a statement of fact that there are always more closed escrows in the spring then any other time of year.

Why is that interpreted as being a bull? All secular markets have cyclical components last I checked. These increases do not mean a stalling of the depreciation cycle but they may serve to do a small amount of buoying in certain areas. It will fade as we move into summer…

SD Realtor

[sdrealtor]

Your math isnt far off but your idea of prices are. You can buy a 3000+ sq ft nearly new home for 650,000 in SEH. heck you can probably get a new one for that. You could also find a very nice newer home in 92009 this year if you knew where to look and how to find it.

My friends dont fit anything close to what you described. They are two very well educated and experienced professionals but neither drs, lawyers or execs. Plenty of people dont make that kind of money but around here alot do and I know many that make alot more. Heck even waitingforthebottom’s wife has met several women whose husbands make 150K plus. She doesnt get to meet the wives who are working and also making as much (sometimes more) as their husbands.

This is a county of 3,000,000 people! Dont be so naive to believe there arent alot of people making good money one way or another. Where do you think those people want to live….Jamul?

(sorry Rus, drinkin again)

[NotCranky]

So every time you have a drink you need to bad mouth South Eastern Rancho Santa Fe? I mean Jamul.

[waiting for bottom]

Of course we all know that sals activity will pick up in the spring, that’s common sense. I just don’t think it will be at a higher price than we have today. I’m quite certain it will be lower. There will a a few home builders with some major slashes in January that will start it all. Maybe even the REO’s will start moving by then.

I don’t expect to pay less than $500K. If I could get 4 bedrooms and 2500 sq ft in a nice neighborhood in 92011 for 600-650, I would buy today. Right now, that is 799 which is unacceptable. It was 899 a few months ago….but 350 5 years ago. I will pay 5% for inflation since purchase, nothing more.

My company bought my old house in the midwest and will pay my closing costs on a new house if I buy before August. But why would I risk losing 100K to save 15K? I would like to think that other relo’s have at least half a brain to figure that out.

This is why I am waiting for the bottom.

[SD Realtor]

waiting for bottom, well explained… you could be right…I guess our rides to the bottom arrive at the same destination by different paths. My ride to the bottom (regarding pricing) is filled with incremental price increases and larger/longer losses and the losses simply outweigh the gains over the next few years….

My concern is that there are still SOOOOO MANY sellers in denial out there who actually believe that they can list in the spring at a higher price then they left off when they bailed the market in October. Who knows what malarky they also may have been fed by some agent who wants to retain the listing as well ya know? To me we are still in the early stages of this massive depreciation event.

I guess all I am saying is don’t ever doubt the (stupidity, stubborness, boneheadedness, greediness) of sellers this early in the cycle. Also all it takes is one home to go for a little bit higher value to spark a false wave of optimism and everyone reacts on it…this can happen in many neighborhoods this spring…

Lots of sellers love to react on a little good news rather then alot of bad news…

Personally I do think we will get a little listing price bump in the spring due to a bit more sales activity, a bit more false hope, a lot more denial, and all of this will vary with type of housing and location. That is just my opinion and yes it could very well be wrong just like my bet taking the colts over the chargers and my reluctance to bet the jags over the chargers was wrong…

We will know the answer in a few months!

SD Realtor

[hugo]

Can someone post a link to a SD area zipcode map? (including north county)

Thanks

[hugo]

Can someone post a link to a SD area zipcode map? (including north county)

Thanks

[hugo]

Can someone post a link to a SD area zipcode map? (including north county)

Thanks

[hugo]

Can someone post a link to a SD area zipcode map? (including north county)

Thanks

[hugo]

Can someone post a link to a SD area zipcode map? (including north county)

Thanks

[SD Realtor]

waiting for bottom, well explained… you could be right…I guess our rides to the bottom arrive at the same destination by different paths. My ride to the bottom (regarding pricing) is filled with incremental price increases and larger/longer losses and the losses simply outweigh the gains over the next few years….

My concern is that there are still SOOOOO MANY sellers in denial out there who actually believe that they can list in the spring at a higher price then they left off when they bailed the market in October. Who knows what malarky they also may have been fed by some agent who wants to retain the listing as well ya know? To me we are still in the early stages of this massive depreciation event.

I guess all I am saying is don’t ever doubt the (stupidity, stubborness, boneheadedness, greediness) of sellers this early in the cycle. Also all it takes is one home to go for a little bit higher value to spark a false wave of optimism and everyone reacts on it…this can happen in many neighborhoods this spring…

Lots of sellers love to react on a little good news rather then alot of bad news…

Personally I do think we will get a little listing price bump in the spring due to a bit more sales activity, a bit more false hope, a lot more denial, and all of this will vary with type of housing and location. That is just my opinion and yes it could very well be wrong just like my bet taking the colts over the chargers and my reluctance to bet the jags over the chargers was wrong…

We will know the answer in a few months!

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

waiting for bottom, well explained… you could be right…I guess our rides to the bottom arrive at the same destination by different paths. My ride to the bottom (regarding pricing) is filled with incremental price increases and larger/longer losses and the losses simply outweigh the gains over the next few years….

My concern is that there are still SOOOOO MANY sellers in denial out there who actually believe that they can list in the spring at a higher price then they left off when they bailed the market in October. Who knows what malarky they also may have been fed by some agent who wants to retain the listing as well ya know? To me we are still in the early stages of this massive depreciation event.

I guess all I am saying is don’t ever doubt the (stupidity, stubborness, boneheadedness, greediness) of sellers this early in the cycle. Also all it takes is one home to go for a little bit higher value to spark a false wave of optimism and everyone reacts on it…this can happen in many neighborhoods this spring…

Lots of sellers love to react on a little good news rather then alot of bad news…

Personally I do think we will get a little listing price bump in the spring due to a bit more sales activity, a bit more false hope, a lot more denial, and all of this will vary with type of housing and location. That is just my opinion and yes it could very well be wrong just like my bet taking the colts over the chargers and my reluctance to bet the jags over the chargers was wrong…

We will know the answer in a few months!

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

waiting for bottom, well explained… you could be right…I guess our rides to the bottom arrive at the same destination by different paths. My ride to the bottom (regarding pricing) is filled with incremental price increases and larger/longer losses and the losses simply outweigh the gains over the next few years….

My concern is that there are still SOOOOO MANY sellers in denial out there who actually believe that they can list in the spring at a higher price then they left off when they bailed the market in October. Who knows what malarky they also may have been fed by some agent who wants to retain the listing as well ya know? To me we are still in the early stages of this massive depreciation event.

I guess all I am saying is don’t ever doubt the (stupidity, stubborness, boneheadedness, greediness) of sellers this early in the cycle. Also all it takes is one home to go for a little bit higher value to spark a false wave of optimism and everyone reacts on it…this can happen in many neighborhoods this spring…

Lots of sellers love to react on a little good news rather then alot of bad news…

Personally I do think we will get a little listing price bump in the spring due to a bit more sales activity, a bit more false hope, a lot more denial, and all of this will vary with type of housing and location. That is just my opinion and yes it could very well be wrong just like my bet taking the colts over the chargers and my reluctance to bet the jags over the chargers was wrong…

We will know the answer in a few months!

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

waiting for bottom, well explained… you could be right…I guess our rides to the bottom arrive at the same destination by different paths. My ride to the bottom (regarding pricing) is filled with incremental price increases and larger/longer losses and the losses simply outweigh the gains over the next few years….

My concern is that there are still SOOOOO MANY sellers in denial out there who actually believe that they can list in the spring at a higher price then they left off when they bailed the market in October. Who knows what malarky they also may have been fed by some agent who wants to retain the listing as well ya know? To me we are still in the early stages of this massive depreciation event.

I guess all I am saying is don’t ever doubt the (stupidity, stubborness, boneheadedness, greediness) of sellers this early in the cycle. Also all it takes is one home to go for a little bit higher value to spark a false wave of optimism and everyone reacts on it…this can happen in many neighborhoods this spring…

Lots of sellers love to react on a little good news rather then alot of bad news…

Personally I do think we will get a little listing price bump in the spring due to a bit more sales activity, a bit more false hope, a lot more denial, and all of this will vary with type of housing and location. That is just my opinion and yes it could very well be wrong just like my bet taking the colts over the chargers and my reluctance to bet the jags over the chargers was wrong…

We will know the answer in a few months!

SD Realtor

[sdrealtor]

waiting for the bottom,
i dont know where you get your figures from but they are way off.

Five years ago (In 2002), Mar Brisa homes were 450 to 500. Mariner’s Point homes w/o views were 600K. Homes in the real Aviara started at 550K at the very bottom end.

If you factor in 4% annual appreciation over 6 years that’s more than 25%. That could put Mar Brisa (the bottom end homes in that area in your price range) but not much else. The truth is they arent far off from that already as I’ve seen Mar Brisa homes go under 700K already.

Rus,
I just enjoy giving you the business. You seem to enjoy giving it to me also. Fair enough.

[NotCranky]

Fine with me. It does worry me sometimes that the more sensitive or stodgy types get offended. I hope they realize I never shoot at someone who isn’t a little ornery themselves. I hope everyone understands that if I dish it out I can take it and that I am assuming that of the others. I was raised wrong.. what can I say.

[sdrealtor]

same here

[NotCranky]

You were raised wrong too? Don’t go around talking about it. They will put you in Jamul with the rest of us.

[sdrealtor]

Frankly I’m surprised they haven’t already…

[sdrealtor]

Frankly I’m surprised they haven’t already…

[sdrealtor]

Frankly I’m surprised they haven’t already…

[sdrealtor]

Frankly I’m surprised they haven’t already…

[sdrealtor]

Frankly I’m surprised they haven’t already…

[NotCranky]

You were raised wrong too? Don’t go around talking about it. They will put you in Jamul with the rest of us.

[NotCranky]

You were raised wrong too? Don’t go around talking about it. They will put you in Jamul with the rest of us.

[NotCranky]

You were raised wrong too? Don’t go around talking about it. They will put you in Jamul with the rest of us.

[NotCranky]

You were raised wrong too? Don’t go around talking about it. They will put you in Jamul with the rest of us.

[NotCranky]

You were raised wrong too? Don’t go around talking about it. They will put you in Jamul with the rest of us.

[sdrealtor]

same here

[sdrealtor]

same here

[sdrealtor]

same here

[sdrealtor]

same here

[NotCranky]

Fine with me. It does worry me sometimes that the more sensitive or stodgy types get offended. I hope they realize I never shoot at someone who isn’t a little ornery themselves. I hope everyone understands that if I dish it out I can take it and that I am assuming that of the others. I was raised wrong.. what can I say.

[NotCranky]

Fine with me. It does worry me sometimes that the more sensitive or stodgy types get offended. I hope they realize I never shoot at someone who isn’t a little ornery themselves. I hope everyone understands that if I dish it out I can take it and that I am assuming that of the others. I was raised wrong.. what can I say.

[NotCranky]

Fine with me. It does worry me sometimes that the more sensitive or stodgy types get offended. I hope they realize I never shoot at someone who isn’t a little ornery themselves. I hope everyone understands that if I dish it out I can take it and that I am assuming that of the others. I was raised wrong.. what can I say.

[NotCranky]

Fine with me. It does worry me sometimes that the more sensitive or stodgy types get offended. I hope they realize I never shoot at someone who isn’t a little ornery themselves. I hope everyone understands that if I dish it out I can take it and that I am assuming that of the others. I was raised wrong.. what can I say.

[waiting for bottom]

Your are right, I am being a little loose with my years. It is more like 6-7 years ago when the houses were in the ranges I quoted.

I don’t think I’d buy in Mar Brisa, it has a cramped feel to it. The $625-$675K houses there are too small anyways.

Here is one counter-ecample though – Mariner’s point with no view:

6746 Solandra – Currently listed at $799K – Bought in 1997 at $304K – Zillow graph has this hitting 500K in 04-05. Knowing that Zillow is off, let’s call it 2002. Not quite the 600K you quoted. (I’ll use your “close enough” argument). 4%/yr since purchase get them south of $500K. This house is still listed $50K above other listings on a sq footage basis. We’ll see it below 650 in the next 18 months.

I’m not looking in the “real” Aviara.

[sdrealtor]

Let’s not call it anything WFB, lets look at the facts.

That was the new price and doesnt include throwing in landscaping, appliances, window treatments etc. That brings the price to 350K in 1997 not 2002. New houses also typically go into escrow 6 months or more before closing (at least they used to) so it is essentially a 1996/1997 price which was the bottom of last cycle. That certainly is not 2002.

In 2002, the lowest sale was $585,000 on Bluepoint. There was a model match on Tea Tree for 595,000. The ocean view homes were going in the high 600’s.

I wont say that it wont get to 650,000 which is about as low as I could imagine but if it does you wont be the only one trying to buy it.

[waiting for bottom]

Other facts:

No one bought this house when it was priced at $899K.

No one bought this house when it was priced at $849K.

No one is bitiing now at $799K.

There is a larger house on a culdesac in The Cove for $799K.

Your colleague marketed it as “priced below market” at 899K.

You guys all take data and twist it however you want. I don’t have access to the same data you do so I don’t know what to say about your 2002 sales.

[NotCranky]

hugo,

http://www.sandiego-mls.com/sdpi1.asp?county=1&x=1

Here is and broker’s web page that has a pretty good area locator with a zip code map.

Disclaimer: I don’t know these people.

[sandiego]

SEH is the opposite of a landfill. They blasted the entire hillside to build it.

The closed landfill is directly south of the old Questhaven Road.

[sandiego]

SEH is the opposite of a landfill. They blasted the entire hillside to build it.

The closed landfill is directly south of the old Questhaven Road.

[sandiego]

SEH is the opposite of a landfill. They blasted the entire hillside to build it.

The closed landfill is directly south of the old Questhaven Road.

[sandiego]

SEH is the opposite of a landfill. They blasted the entire hillside to build it.

The closed landfill is directly south of the old Questhaven Road.

[sandiego]

SEH is the opposite of a landfill. They blasted the entire hillside to build it.

The closed landfill is directly south of the old Questhaven Road.

[hugo]

Thanks for the link Rustico

[NotCranky]

You are welcome Hugo.

[NotCranky]

You are welcome Hugo.

[NotCranky]

You are welcome Hugo.

[NotCranky]

You are welcome Hugo.

[NotCranky]

You are welcome Hugo.

[hugo]

Thanks for the link Rustico

[hugo]

Thanks for the link Rustico

[hugo]

Thanks for the link Rustico

[hugo]

Thanks for the link Rustico

[NotCranky]

hugo,

http://www.sandiego-mls.com/sdpi1.asp?county=1&x=1

Here is and broker’s web page that has a pretty good area locator with a zip code map.

Disclaimer: I don’t know these people.

[NotCranky]

hugo,

http://www.sandiego-mls.com/sdpi1.asp?county=1&x=1

Here is and broker’s web page that has a pretty good area locator with a zip code map.

Disclaimer: I don’t know these people.

[NotCranky]

hugo,

http://www.sandiego-mls.com/sdpi1.asp?county=1&x=1

Here is and broker’s web page that has a pretty good area locator with a zip code map.

Disclaimer: I don’t know these people.

[NotCranky]

hugo,

http://www.sandiego-mls.com/sdpi1.asp?county=1&x=1

Here is and broker’s web page that has a pretty good area locator with a zip code map.

Disclaimer: I don’t know these people.

[sdrealtor]

WFB,
There you go again comparing apples and oranges. That house was likely never worth 899K so who cares that they overpriced a few months ago. The fact that no one is biting at price today is of little relevance because there are very few buyers out this time of year. To sell today they would have to take less than they could get in a couple months, not because prices will rise, but because as SD R so adeptly explained, it is the secular trend.

BTW, the larger house in The Cove is inferior construction, inferior floorplans, likely under stadium lights from Poinsettia Park and is a 2 story. The house on Solandra is a 1 story which makes a huge difference. As for how my colleague marketed it, I could care less.

Here’s some good advice. Instead of flailing wildly, find yourself a good local realtor that has lived in the area at least 10 years and been in the business at least 5 years if not more. Someone like me who doesnt care when you you buy because my livelihood doesnt depend upon it. There area lot of good realtors in this area that can help you out. BTW, I dont accept clients from this board so you’ll have to find one on your own.

[CBad]

And what’s up with the huge wall of fabric decoration technique in not one but TWO places at 1583?!

[ibjames]

Rust and sdr, your banter better not cease, I personally love some ornery now and then

sdr: why would you not take business from this board? I don’t think it would put a dent in your credibility.

[sdrealtor]

I guess I’d rather be ornery than rich. I walked away from $4M+ in business this year because I really care about my clients best interests, often more than they do.

Just last month I had a little old lady client who I have been pushing as hard as I could to wait a little longer turn around and go to the listing agent to pay full price for a mediocre property in a bad location that I kept telling her not to buy. It cost me about $8 grand. They day she closed it was obvious that she was underwater by $50,000 on a $400,000 condo. Worst of all, the beauty that she really loved dropped down in price by about $75,000 as soon as she closed and she could have had it for about the same price while it was easily worth $50 to 75K more than the one she got.

[sdrealtor]

I guess I’d rather be ornery than rich. I walked away from $4M+ in business this year because I really care about my clients best interests, often more than they do.

Just last month I had a little old lady client who I have been pushing as hard as I could to wait a little longer turn around and go to the listing agent to pay full price for a mediocre property in a bad location that I kept telling her not to buy. It cost me about $8 grand. They day she closed it was obvious that she was underwater by $50,000 on a $400,000 condo. Worst of all, the beauty that she really loved dropped down in price by about $75,000 as soon as she closed and she could have had it for about the same price while it was easily worth $50 to 75K more than the one she got.

[sdrealtor]

I guess I’d rather be ornery than rich. I walked away from $4M+ in business this year because I really care about my clients best interests, often more than they do.

Just last month I had a little old lady client who I have been pushing as hard as I could to wait a little longer turn around and go to the listing agent to pay full price for a mediocre property in a bad location that I kept telling her not to buy. It cost me about $8 grand. They day she closed it was obvious that she was underwater by $50,000 on a $400,000 condo. Worst of all, the beauty that she really loved dropped down in price by about $75,000 as soon as she closed and she could have had it for about the same price while it was easily worth $50 to 75K more than the one she got.

[sdrealtor]

I guess I’d rather be ornery than rich. I walked away from $4M+ in business this year because I really care about my clients best interests, often more than they do.

Just last month I had a little old lady client who I have been pushing as hard as I could to wait a little longer turn around and go to the listing agent to pay full price for a mediocre property in a bad location that I kept telling her not to buy. It cost me about $8 grand. They day she closed it was obvious that she was underwater by $50,000 on a $400,000 condo. Worst of all, the beauty that she really loved dropped down in price by about $75,000 as soon as she closed and she could have had it for about the same price while it was easily worth $50 to 75K more than the one she got.

[sdrealtor]

I guess I’d rather be ornery than rich. I walked away from $4M+ in business this year because I really care about my clients best interests, often more than they do.

Just last month I had a little old lady client who I have been pushing as hard as I could to wait a little longer turn around and go to the listing agent to pay full price for a mediocre property in a bad location that I kept telling her not to buy. It cost me about $8 grand. They day she closed it was obvious that she was underwater by $50,000 on a $400,000 condo. Worst of all, the beauty that she really loved dropped down in price by about $75,000 as soon as she closed and she could have had it for about the same price while it was easily worth $50 to 75K more than the one she got.

[NotCranky]

Don’t be a voyeur James come on out with it! This place was making me think of M.A.S.H. Some posters play Major Frank Burns and some play Hawk-eye and Honeycutt. Yes I know I am being generous with the choices of roles. I just don’t want to be Beavis or Butthead, so we’ll go back a little further. Don’t worry James we are too old to change.

What if one of us had a website where we were hyping buyers to get in the market, like the one in the link I found for Hugo? That would be interesting.

[NotCranky]

Don’t be a voyeur James come on out with it! This place was making me think of M.A.S.H. Some posters play Major Frank Burns and some play Hawk-eye and Honeycutt. Yes I know I am being generous with the choices of roles. I just don’t want to be Beavis or Butthead, so we’ll go back a little further. Don’t worry James we are too old to change.

What if one of us had a website where we were hyping buyers to get in the market, like the one in the link I found for Hugo? That would be interesting.

[NotCranky]

Don’t be a voyeur James come on out with it! This place was making me think of M.A.S.H. Some posters play Major Frank Burns and some play Hawk-eye and Honeycutt. Yes I know I am being generous with the choices of roles. I just don’t want to be Beavis or Butthead, so we’ll go back a little further. Don’t worry James we are too old to change.

What if one of us had a website where we were hyping buyers to get in the market, like the one in the link I found for Hugo? That would be interesting.

[NotCranky]

Don’t be a voyeur James come on out with it! This place was making me think of M.A.S.H. Some posters play Major Frank Burns and some play Hawk-eye and Honeycutt. Yes I know I am being generous with the choices of roles. I just don’t want to be Beavis or Butthead, so we’ll go back a little further. Don’t worry James we are too old to change.

What if one of us had a website where we were hyping buyers to get in the market, like the one in the link I found for Hugo? That would be interesting.

[NotCranky]

Don’t be a voyeur James come on out with it! This place was making me think of M.A.S.H. Some posters play Major Frank Burns and some play Hawk-eye and Honeycutt. Yes I know I am being generous with the choices of roles. I just don’t want to be Beavis or Butthead, so we’ll go back a little further. Don’t worry James we are too old to change.

What if one of us had a website where we were hyping buyers to get in the market, like the one in the link I found for Hugo? That would be interesting.

[ibjames]

Rust and sdr, your banter better not cease, I personally love some ornery now and then

sdr: why would you not take business from this board? I don’t think it would put a dent in your credibility.

[ibjames]

Rust and sdr, your banter better not cease, I personally love some ornery now and then

sdr: why would you not take business from this board? I don’t think it would put a dent in your credibility.

[ibjames]

Rust and sdr, your banter better not cease, I personally love some ornery now and then

sdr: why would you not take business from this board? I don’t think it would put a dent in your credibility.

[ibjames]

Rust and sdr, your banter better not cease, I personally love some ornery now and then

sdr: why would you not take business from this board? I don’t think it would put a dent in your credibility.

[CBad]

And what’s up with the huge wall of fabric decoration technique in not one but TWO places at 1583?!

[CBad]

And what’s up with the huge wall of fabric decoration technique in not one but TWO places at 1583?!

[CBad]

And what’s up with the huge wall of fabric decoration technique in not one but TWO places at 1583?!

[CBad]

And what’s up with the huge wall of fabric decoration technique in not one but TWO places at 1583?!

[sdrealtor]

WFB,
There you go again comparing apples and oranges. That house was likely never worth 899K so who cares that they overpriced a few months ago. The fact that no one is biting at price today is of little relevance because there are very few buyers out this time of year. To sell today they would have to take less than they could get in a couple months, not because prices will rise, but because as SD R so adeptly explained, it is the secular trend.

BTW, the larger house in The Cove is inferior construction, inferior floorplans, likely under stadium lights from Poinsettia Park and is a 2 story. The house on Solandra is a 1 story which makes a huge difference. As for how my colleague marketed it, I could care less.

Here’s some good advice. Instead of flailing wildly, find yourself a good local realtor that has lived in the area at least 10 years and been in the business at least 5 years if not more. Someone like me who doesnt care when you you buy because my livelihood doesnt depend upon it. There area lot of good realtors in this area that can help you out. BTW, I dont accept clients from this board so you’ll have to find one on your own.

[sdrealtor]

WFB,
There you go again comparing apples and oranges. That house was likely never worth 899K so who cares that they overpriced a few months ago. The fact that no one is biting at price today is of little relevance because there are very few buyers out this time of year. To sell today they would have to take less than they could get in a couple months, not because prices will rise, but because as SD R so adeptly explained, it is the secular trend.

BTW, the larger house in The Cove is inferior construction, inferior floorplans, likely under stadium lights from Poinsettia Park and is a 2 story. The house on Solandra is a 1 story which makes a huge difference. As for how my colleague marketed it, I could care less.

Here’s some good advice. Instead of flailing wildly, find yourself a good local realtor that has lived in the area at least 10 years and been in the business at least 5 years if not more. Someone like me who doesnt care when you you buy because my livelihood doesnt depend upon it. There area lot of good realtors in this area that can help you out. BTW, I dont accept clients from this board so you’ll have to find one on your own.

[sdrealtor]

WFB,
There you go again comparing apples and oranges. That house was likely never worth 899K so who cares that they overpriced a few months ago. The fact that no one is biting at price today is of little relevance because there are very few buyers out this time of year. To sell today they would have to take less than they could get in a couple months, not because prices will rise, but because as SD R so adeptly explained, it is the secular trend.

BTW, the larger house in The Cove is inferior construction, inferior floorplans, likely under stadium lights from Poinsettia Park and is a 2 story. The house on Solandra is a 1 story which makes a huge difference. As for how my colleague marketed it, I could care less.

Here’s some good advice. Instead of flailing wildly, find yourself a good local realtor that has lived in the area at least 10 years and been in the business at least 5 years if not more. Someone like me who doesnt care when you you buy because my livelihood doesnt depend upon it. There area lot of good realtors in this area that can help you out. BTW, I dont accept clients from this board so you’ll have to find one on your own.

[sdrealtor]

WFB,
There you go again comparing apples and oranges. That house was likely never worth 899K so who cares that they overpriced a few months ago. The fact that no one is biting at price today is of little relevance because there are very few buyers out this time of year. To sell today they would have to take less than they could get in a couple months, not because prices will rise, but because as SD R so adeptly explained, it is the secular trend.

BTW, the larger house in The Cove is inferior construction, inferior floorplans, likely under stadium lights from Poinsettia Park and is a 2 story. The house on Solandra is a 1 story which makes a huge difference. As for how my colleague marketed it, I could care less.

Here’s some good advice. Instead of flailing wildly, find yourself a good local realtor that has lived in the area at least 10 years and been in the business at least 5 years if not more. Someone like me who doesnt care when you you buy because my livelihood doesnt depend upon it. There area lot of good realtors in this area that can help you out. BTW, I dont accept clients from this board so you’ll have to find one on your own.

[waiting for bottom]

Other facts:

No one bought this house when it was priced at $899K.

No one bought this house when it was priced at $849K.

No one is bitiing now at $799K.

There is a larger house on a culdesac in The Cove for $799K.

Your colleague marketed it as “priced below market” at 899K.

You guys all take data and twist it however you want. I don’t have access to the same data you do so I don’t know what to say about your 2002 sales.

[waiting for bottom]

Other facts:

No one bought this house when it was priced at $899K.

No one bought this house when it was priced at $849K.

No one is bitiing now at $799K.

There is a larger house on a culdesac in The Cove for $799K.

Your colleague marketed it as “priced below market” at 899K.

You guys all take data and twist it however you want. I don’t have access to the same data you do so I don’t know what to say about your 2002 sales.

[waiting for bottom]

Other facts:

No one bought this house when it was priced at $899K.

No one bought this house when it was priced at $849K.

No one is bitiing now at $799K.

There is a larger house on a culdesac in The Cove for $799K.

Your colleague marketed it as “priced below market” at 899K.

You guys all take data and twist it however you want. I don’t have access to the same data you do so I don’t know what to say about your 2002 sales.

[waiting for bottom]

Other facts:

No one bought this house when it was priced at $899K.

No one bought this house when it was priced at $849K.

No one is bitiing now at $799K.

There is a larger house on a culdesac in The Cove for $799K.

Your colleague marketed it as “priced below market” at 899K.

You guys all take data and twist it however you want. I don’t have access to the same data you do so I don’t know what to say about your 2002 sales.

[sdrealtor]

Let’s not call it anything WFB, lets look at the facts.

That was the new price and doesnt include throwing in landscaping, appliances, window treatments etc. That brings the price to 350K in 1997 not 2002. New houses also typically go into escrow 6 months or more before closing (at least they used to) so it is essentially a 1996/1997 price which was the bottom of last cycle. That certainly is not 2002.

In 2002, the lowest sale was $585,000 on Bluepoint. There was a model match on Tea Tree for 595,000. The ocean view homes were going in the high 600’s.

I wont say that it wont get to 650,000 which is about as low as I could imagine but if it does you wont be the only one trying to buy it.

[sdrealtor]

Let’s not call it anything WFB, lets look at the facts.

That was the new price and doesnt include throwing in landscaping, appliances, window treatments etc. That brings the price to 350K in 1997 not 2002. New houses also typically go into escrow 6 months or more before closing (at least they used to) so it is essentially a 1996/1997 price which was the bottom of last cycle. That certainly is not 2002.

In 2002, the lowest sale was $585,000 on Bluepoint. There was a model match on Tea Tree for 595,000. The ocean view homes were going in the high 600’s.

I wont say that it wont get to 650,000 which is about as low as I could imagine but if it does you wont be the only one trying to buy it.

[sdrealtor]

Let’s not call it anything WFB, lets look at the facts.

That was the new price and doesnt include throwing in landscaping, appliances, window treatments etc. That brings the price to 350K in 1997 not 2002. New houses also typically go into escrow 6 months or more before closing (at least they used to) so it is essentially a 1996/1997 price which was the bottom of last cycle. That certainly is not 2002.

In 2002, the lowest sale was $585,000 on Bluepoint. There was a model match on Tea Tree for 595,000. The ocean view homes were going in the high 600’s.

I wont say that it wont get to 650,000 which is about as low as I could imagine but if it does you wont be the only one trying to buy it.

[sdrealtor]

Let’s not call it anything WFB, lets look at the facts.

That was the new price and doesnt include throwing in landscaping, appliances, window treatments etc. That brings the price to 350K in 1997 not 2002. New houses also typically go into escrow 6 months or more before closing (at least they used to) so it is essentially a 1996/1997 price which was the bottom of last cycle. That certainly is not 2002.

In 2002, the lowest sale was $585,000 on Bluepoint. There was a model match on Tea Tree for 595,000. The ocean view homes were going in the high 600’s.

I wont say that it wont get to 650,000 which is about as low as I could imagine but if it does you wont be the only one trying to buy it.

[waiting for bottom]

Your are right, I am being a little loose with my years. It is more like 6-7 years ago when the houses were in the ranges I quoted.

I don’t think I’d buy in Mar Brisa, it has a cramped feel to it. The $625-$675K houses there are too small anyways.

Here is one counter-ecample though – Mariner’s point with no view:

6746 Solandra – Currently listed at $799K – Bought in 1997 at $304K – Zillow graph has this hitting 500K in 04-05. Knowing that Zillow is off, let’s call it 2002. Not quite the 600K you quoted. (I’ll use your “close enough” argument). 4%/yr since purchase get them south of $500K. This house is still listed $50K above other listings on a sq footage basis. We’ll see it below 650 in the next 18 months.

I’m not looking in the “real” Aviara.

[waiting for bottom]

Your are right, I am being a little loose with my years. It is more like 6-7 years ago when the houses were in the ranges I quoted.

I don’t think I’d buy in Mar Brisa, it has a cramped feel to it. The $625-$675K houses there are too small anyways.

Here is one counter-ecample though – Mariner’s point with no view:

6746 Solandra – Currently listed at $799K – Bought in 1997 at $304K – Zillow graph has this hitting 500K in 04-05. Knowing that Zillow is off, let’s call it 2002. Not quite the 600K you quoted. (I’ll use your “close enough” argument). 4%/yr since purchase get them south of $500K. This house is still listed $50K above other listings on a sq footage basis. We’ll see it below 650 in the next 18 months.

I’m not looking in the “real” Aviara.

[waiting for bottom]

Your are right, I am being a little loose with my years. It is more like 6-7 years ago when the houses were in the ranges I quoted.

I don’t think I’d buy in Mar Brisa, it has a cramped feel to it. The $625-$675K houses there are too small anyways.

Here is one counter-ecample though – Mariner’s point with no view:

6746 Solandra – Currently listed at $799K – Bought in 1997 at $304K – Zillow graph has this hitting 500K in 04-05. Knowing that Zillow is off, let’s call it 2002. Not quite the 600K you quoted. (I’ll use your “close enough” argument). 4%/yr since purchase get them south of $500K. This house is still listed $50K above other listings on a sq footage basis. We’ll see it below 650 in the next 18 months.

I’m not looking in the “real” Aviara.

[waiting for bottom]

Your are right, I am being a little loose with my years. It is more like 6-7 years ago when the houses were in the ranges I quoted.

I don’t think I’d buy in Mar Brisa, it has a cramped feel to it. The $625-$675K houses there are too small anyways.

Here is one counter-ecample though – Mariner’s point with no view:

6746 Solandra – Currently listed at $799K – Bought in 1997 at $304K – Zillow graph has this hitting 500K in 04-05. Knowing that Zillow is off, let’s call it 2002. Not quite the 600K you quoted. (I’ll use your “close enough” argument). 4%/yr since purchase get them south of $500K. This house is still listed $50K above other listings on a sq footage basis. We’ll see it below 650 in the next 18 months.

I’m not looking in the “real” Aviara.

[sdrealtor]

waiting for the bottom,
i dont know where you get your figures from but they are way off.

Five years ago (In 2002), Mar Brisa homes were 450 to 500. Mariner’s Point homes w/o views were 600K. Homes in the real Aviara started at 550K at the very bottom end.

If you factor in 4% annual appreciation over 6 years that’s more than 25%. That could put Mar Brisa (the bottom end homes in that area in your price range) but not much else. The truth is they arent far off from that already as I’ve seen Mar Brisa homes go under 700K already.

Rus,
I just enjoy giving you the business. You seem to enjoy giving it to me also. Fair enough.

[sdrealtor]

waiting for the bottom,
i dont know where you get your figures from but they are way off.

Five years ago (In 2002), Mar Brisa homes were 450 to 500. Mariner’s Point homes w/o views were 600K. Homes in the real Aviara started at 550K at the very bottom end.

If you factor in 4% annual appreciation over 6 years that’s more than 25%. That could put Mar Brisa (the bottom end homes in that area in your price range) but not much else. The truth is they arent far off from that already as I’ve seen Mar Brisa homes go under 700K already.

Rus,
I just enjoy giving you the business. You seem to enjoy giving it to me also. Fair enough.

[sdrealtor]

waiting for the bottom,
i dont know where you get your figures from but they are way off.

Five years ago (In 2002), Mar Brisa homes were 450 to 500. Mariner’s Point homes w/o views were 600K. Homes in the real Aviara started at 550K at the very bottom end.

If you factor in 4% annual appreciation over 6 years that’s more than 25%. That could put Mar Brisa (the bottom end homes in that area in your price range) but not much else. The truth is they arent far off from that already as I’ve seen Mar Brisa homes go under 700K already.

Rus,
I just enjoy giving you the business. You seem to enjoy giving it to me also. Fair enough.

[sdrealtor]

waiting for the bottom,
i dont know where you get your figures from but they are way off.

Five years ago (In 2002), Mar Brisa homes were 450 to 500. Mariner’s Point homes w/o views were 600K. Homes in the real Aviara started at 550K at the very bottom end.

If you factor in 4% annual appreciation over 6 years that’s more than 25%. That could put Mar Brisa (the bottom end homes in that area in your price range) but not much else. The truth is they arent far off from that already as I’ve seen Mar Brisa homes go under 700K already.

Rus,
I just enjoy giving you the business. You seem to enjoy giving it to me also. Fair enough.

[waiting for bottom]

Of course we all know that sals activity will pick up in the spring, that’s common sense. I just don’t think it will be at a higher price than we have today. I’m quite certain it will be lower. There will a a few home builders with some major slashes in January that will start it all. Maybe even the REO’s will start moving by then.

I don’t expect to pay less than $500K. If I could get 4 bedrooms and 2500 sq ft in a nice neighborhood in 92011 for 600-650, I would buy today. Right now, that is 799 which is unacceptable. It was 899 a few months ago….but 350 5 years ago. I will pay 5% for inflation since purchase, nothing more.

My company bought my old house in the midwest and will pay my closing costs on a new house if I buy before August. But why would I risk losing 100K to save 15K? I would like to think that other relo’s have at least half a brain to figure that out.

This is why I am waiting for the bottom.

[waiting for bottom]

Of course we all know that sals activity will pick up in the spring, that’s common sense. I just don’t think it will be at a higher price than we have today. I’m quite certain it will be lower. There will a a few home builders with some major slashes in January that will start it all. Maybe even the REO’s will start moving by then.

I don’t expect to pay less than $500K. If I could get 4 bedrooms and 2500 sq ft in a nice neighborhood in 92011 for 600-650, I would buy today. Right now, that is 799 which is unacceptable. It was 899 a few months ago….but 350 5 years ago. I will pay 5% for inflation since purchase, nothing more.

My company bought my old house in the midwest and will pay my closing costs on a new house if I buy before August. But why would I risk losing 100K to save 15K? I would like to think that other relo’s have at least half a brain to figure that out.

This is why I am waiting for the bottom.

[waiting for bottom]

Of course we all know that sals activity will pick up in the spring, that’s common sense. I just don’t think it will be at a higher price than we have today. I’m quite certain it will be lower. There will a a few home builders with some major slashes in January that will start it all. Maybe even the REO’s will start moving by then.

I don’t expect to pay less than $500K. If I could get 4 bedrooms and 2500 sq ft in a nice neighborhood in 92011 for 600-650, I would buy today. Right now, that is 799 which is unacceptable. It was 899 a few months ago….but 350 5 years ago. I will pay 5% for inflation since purchase, nothing more.

My company bought my old house in the midwest and will pay my closing costs on a new house if I buy before August. But why would I risk losing 100K to save 15K? I would like to think that other relo’s have at least half a brain to figure that out.

This is why I am waiting for the bottom.

[waiting for bottom]

Of course we all know that sals activity will pick up in the spring, that’s common sense. I just don’t think it will be at a higher price than we have today. I’m quite certain it will be lower. There will a a few home builders with some major slashes in January that will start it all. Maybe even the REO’s will start moving by then.

I don’t expect to pay less than $500K. If I could get 4 bedrooms and 2500 sq ft in a nice neighborhood in 92011 for 600-650, I would buy today. Right now, that is 799 which is unacceptable. It was 899 a few months ago….but 350 5 years ago. I will pay 5% for inflation since purchase, nothing more.

My company bought my old house in the midwest and will pay my closing costs on a new house if I buy before August. But why would I risk losing 100K to save 15K? I would like to think that other relo’s have at least half a brain to figure that out.

This is why I am waiting for the bottom.

[NotCranky]

So every time you have a drink you need to bad mouth South Eastern Rancho Santa Fe? I mean Jamul.

[NotCranky]

So every time you have a drink you need to bad mouth South Eastern Rancho Santa Fe? I mean Jamul.

[NotCranky]

So every time you have a drink you need to bad mouth South Eastern Rancho Santa Fe? I mean Jamul.

[NotCranky]

So every time you have a drink you need to bad mouth South Eastern Rancho Santa Fe? I mean Jamul.

[sdrealtor]

Your math isnt far off but your idea of prices are. You can buy a 3000+ sq ft nearly new home for 650,000 in SEH. heck you can probably get a new one for that. You could also find a very nice newer home in 92009 this year if you knew where to look and how to find it.

My friends dont fit anything close to what you described. They are two very well educated and experienced professionals but neither drs, lawyers or execs. Plenty of people dont make that kind of money but around here alot do and I know many that make alot more. Heck even waitingforthebottom’s wife has met several women whose husbands make 150K plus. She doesnt get to meet the wives who are working and also making as much (sometimes more) as their husbands.

This is a county of 3,000,000 people! Dont be so naive to believe there arent alot of people making good money one way or another. Where do you think those people want to live….Jamul?

(sorry Rus, drinkin again)

[sdrealtor]

Your math isnt far off but your idea of prices are. You can buy a 3000+ sq ft nearly new home for 650,000 in SEH. heck you can probably get a new one for that. You could also find a very nice newer home in 92009 this year if you knew where to look and how to find it.

My friends dont fit anything close to what you described. They are two very well educated and experienced professionals but neither drs, lawyers or execs. Plenty of people dont make that kind of money but around here alot do and I know many that make alot more. Heck even waitingforthebottom’s wife has met several women whose husbands make 150K plus. She doesnt get to meet the wives who are working and also making as much (sometimes more) as their husbands.

This is a county of 3,000,000 people! Dont be so naive to believe there arent alot of people making good money one way or another. Where do you think those people want to live….Jamul?

(sorry Rus, drinkin again)

[sdrealtor]

Your math isnt far off but your idea of prices are. You can buy a 3000+ sq ft nearly new home for 650,000 in SEH. heck you can probably get a new one for that. You could also find a very nice newer home in 92009 this year if you knew where to look and how to find it.

My friends dont fit anything close to what you described. They are two very well educated and experienced professionals but neither drs, lawyers or execs. Plenty of people dont make that kind of money but around here alot do and I know many that make alot more. Heck even waitingforthebottom’s wife has met several women whose husbands make 150K plus. She doesnt get to meet the wives who are working and also making as much (sometimes more) as their husbands.

This is a county of 3,000,000 people! Dont be so naive to believe there arent alot of people making good money one way or another. Where do you think those people want to live….Jamul?

(sorry Rus, drinkin again)

[sdrealtor]

Your math isnt far off but your idea of prices are. You can buy a 3000+ sq ft nearly new home for 650,000 in SEH. heck you can probably get a new one for that. You could also find a very nice newer home in 92009 this year if you knew where to look and how to find it.

My friends dont fit anything close to what you described. They are two very well educated and experienced professionals but neither drs, lawyers or execs. Plenty of people dont make that kind of money but around here alot do and I know many that make alot more. Heck even waitingforthebottom’s wife has met several women whose husbands make 150K plus. She doesnt get to meet the wives who are working and also making as much (sometimes more) as their husbands.

This is a county of 3,000,000 people! Dont be so naive to believe there arent alot of people making good money one way or another. Where do you think those people want to live….Jamul?

(sorry Rus, drinkin again)

[niy38]

let’s do some math here:
1.5 * 350k = 525 K

525/0.65=807 K

with this price, u can find decent SFH in 92009 or
SEH, or even 92011.

BUT, the key is: how many family having income
350K ? don’t tell me those “Plenty of people” are all
CEO, CFO, lawyer, doctor, etc.

sdr, now I find u r really a realtor !!

[niy38]

let’s do some math here:
1.5 * 350k = 525 K

525/0.65=807 K

with this price, u can find decent SFH in 92009 or
SEH, or even 92011.

BUT, the key is: how many family having income
350K ? don’t tell me those “Plenty of people” are all
CEO, CFO, lawyer, doctor, etc.

sdr, now I find u r really a realtor !!

[niy38]

let’s do some math here:
1.5 * 350k = 525 K

525/0.65=807 K

with this price, u can find decent SFH in 92009 or
SEH, or even 92011.

BUT, the key is: how many family having income
350K ? don’t tell me those “Plenty of people” are all
CEO, CFO, lawyer, doctor, etc.

sdr, now I find u r really a realtor !!

[niy38]

let’s do some math here:
1.5 * 350k = 525 K

525/0.65=807 K

with this price, u can find decent SFH in 92009 or
SEH, or even 92011.

BUT, the key is: how many family having income
350K ? don’t tell me those “Plenty of people” are all
CEO, CFO, lawyer, doctor, etc.

sdr, now I find u r really a realtor !!

[sdrealtor]

Plenty of people buy. I have a friend that moved here from the Midwest. His company bought his house to get him here which he couldnt have sold otherwise. Both he and his wife got big time raises to come here as well as a rich relo package. HH Income went from about 200K to 350K. They bought a house with about 35% down and a mortgage about 1.5X their HH income. They love their house and are glad they bought.

The prices will be lower this Spring than last by about 5 to 10% in this area. One by one your friends will buy as they find they can afford what they truly want. Some this Spring and some next and so on. People with 200K HH incomes can easily afford 500K 30 yr fixed rate mortgages and will start finding homes they like in great areas between 600K and 800K. If you dont buy others will. If you expect to get a great house around here under 500K you will be sadly disappointed IMHO.

[sdrealtor]

Plenty of people buy. I have a friend that moved here from the Midwest. His company bought his house to get him here which he couldnt have sold otherwise. Both he and his wife got big time raises to come here as well as a rich relo package. HH Income went from about 200K to 350K. They bought a house with about 35% down and a mortgage about 1.5X their HH income. They love their house and are glad they bought.

The prices will be lower this Spring than last by about 5 to 10% in this area. One by one your friends will buy as they find they can afford what they truly want. Some this Spring and some next and so on. People with 200K HH incomes can easily afford 500K 30 yr fixed rate mortgages and will start finding homes they like in great areas between 600K and 800K. If you dont buy others will. If you expect to get a great house around here under 500K you will be sadly disappointed IMHO.

[sdrealtor]

Plenty of people buy. I have a friend that moved here from the Midwest. His company bought his house to get him here which he couldnt have sold otherwise. Both he and his wife got big time raises to come here as well as a rich relo package. HH Income went from about 200K to 350K. They bought a house with about 35% down and a mortgage about 1.5X their HH income. They love their house and are glad they bought.

The prices will be lower this Spring than last by about 5 to 10% in this area. One by one your friends will buy as they find they can afford what they truly want. Some this Spring and some next and so on. People with 200K HH incomes can easily afford 500K 30 yr fixed rate mortgages and will start finding homes they like in great areas between 600K and 800K. If you dont buy others will. If you expect to get a great house around here under 500K you will be sadly disappointed IMHO.

[sdrealtor]

Plenty of people buy. I have a friend that moved here from the Midwest. His company bought his house to get him here which he couldnt have sold otherwise. Both he and his wife got big time raises to come here as well as a rich relo package. HH Income went from about 200K to 350K. They bought a house with about 35% down and a mortgage about 1.5X their HH income. They love their house and are glad they bought.

The prices will be lower this Spring than last by about 5 to 10% in this area. One by one your friends will buy as they find they can afford what they truly want. Some this Spring and some next and so on. People with 200K HH incomes can easily afford 500K 30 yr fixed rate mortgages and will start finding homes they like in great areas between 600K and 800K. If you dont buy others will. If you expect to get a great house around here under 500K you will be sadly disappointed IMHO.

[niy38]

sdr, what kind of relo people will buy? how many ?
I moved to SD 2 years ago from Phoenix and my salary
doubled but still can not afford a condo in Carlsbad!

[niy38]

sdr, what kind of relo people will buy? how many ?
I moved to SD 2 years ago from Phoenix and my salary
doubled but still can not afford a condo in Carlsbad!

[niy38]

sdr, what kind of relo people will buy? how many ?
I moved to SD 2 years ago from Phoenix and my salary
doubled but still can not afford a condo in Carlsbad!

[niy38]

sdr, what kind of relo people will buy? how many ?
I moved to SD 2 years ago from Phoenix and my salary
doubled but still can not afford a condo in Carlsbad!

[sdrealtor]

Didnt say prices will rise, I said they will strengthen as demand returns meaning that prices wont continuing dropping steeply through Spring.

Plenty of Relo people will buy. They always do.

[sdrealtor]

Didnt say prices will rise, I said they will strengthen as demand returns meaning that prices wont continuing dropping steeply through Spring.

Plenty of Relo people will buy. They always do.

[sdrealtor]

Didnt say prices will rise, I said they will strengthen as demand returns meaning that prices wont continuing dropping steeply through Spring.

Plenty of Relo people will buy. They always do.

[sdrealtor]

Didnt say prices will rise, I said they will strengthen as demand returns meaning that prices wont continuing dropping steeply through Spring.

Plenty of Relo people will buy. They always do.

[waiting for bottom]

There you go being a bull again. Prices will rise in 2008???

What relo person is going to buy in this market? Every single one I know (myself included) has decided to rent.

SEH Mello roos are only huge in the Questhaven area. They are ~$2000 near the town center. Calavera, Carillo, and other parts of Carlsbad have ~$800 fees. $100 per month difference in not huge.

High school? My oldest kid is 2. I’ll give them 12 years to get that straightened out.

[waiting for bottom]

There you go being a bull again. Prices will rise in 2008???

What relo person is going to buy in this market? Every single one I know (myself included) has decided to rent.

SEH Mello roos are only huge in the Questhaven area. They are ~$2000 near the town center. Calavera, Carillo, and other parts of Carlsbad have ~$800 fees. $100 per month difference in not huge.

High school? My oldest kid is 2. I’ll give them 12 years to get that straightened out.

[waiting for bottom]

There you go being a bull again. Prices will rise in 2008???

What relo person is going to buy in this market? Every single one I know (myself included) has decided to rent.

SEH Mello roos are only huge in the Questhaven area. They are ~$2000 near the town center. Calavera, Carillo, and other parts of Carlsbad have ~$800 fees. $100 per month difference in not huge.

High school? My oldest kid is 2. I’ll give them 12 years to get that straightened out.

[waiting for bottom]

There you go being a bull again. Prices will rise in 2008???

What relo person is going to buy in this market? Every single one I know (myself included) has decided to rent.

SEH Mello roos are only huge in the Questhaven area. They are ~$2000 near the town center. Calavera, Carillo, and other parts of Carlsbad have ~$800 fees. $100 per month difference in not huge.

High school? My oldest kid is 2. I’ll give them 12 years to get that straightened out.

[sdrealtor]

Farbet prices have been declining in 009, 011 and 024 for 2 years at a slow and steady pace. The less desirable portions (Carillo etc.) have been hit harder. I believe the prices will strengthen a bit after the New Year as the relo folks come pouring in in their annual migration.

[sdrealtor]

Farbet prices have been declining in 009, 011 and 024 for 2 years at a slow and steady pace. The less desirable portions (Carillo etc.) have been hit harder. I believe the prices will strengthen a bit after the New Year as the relo folks come pouring in in their annual migration.

[sdrealtor]

Farbet prices have been declining in 009, 011 and 024 for 2 years at a slow and steady pace. The less desirable portions (Carillo etc.) have been hit harder. I believe the prices will strengthen a bit after the New Year as the relo folks come pouring in in their annual migration.

[sdrealtor]

Farbet prices have been declining in 009, 011 and 024 for 2 years at a slow and steady pace. The less desirable portions (Carillo etc.) have been hit harder. I believe the prices will strengthen a bit after the New Year as the relo folks come pouring in in their annual migration.

[farbet]

Prices are staring to crumble in 92009, 92011,92024.I do believe it will pick up in a few weeks.

[farbet]

Prices are staring to crumble in 92009, 92011,92024.I do believe it will pick up in a few weeks.

[farbet]

Prices are staring to crumble in 92009, 92011,92024.I do believe it will pick up in a few weeks.

[farbet]

Prices are staring to crumble in 92009, 92011,92024.I do believe it will pick up in a few weeks.

[waiting for bottom]

Yes, I have phisically visited them and yes I would buy them at the right price.

92069 over SEH??? Give me a break. Primary school may be OK at best, but the middle school over there is horrible. Puhleeeeze.

[waiting for bottom]

Yes, I have phisically visited them and yes I would buy them at the right price.

92069 over SEH??? Give me a break. Primary school may be OK at best, but the middle school over there is horrible. Puhleeeeze.

[waiting for bottom]

Yes, I have phisically visited them and yes I would buy them at the right price.

92069 over SEH??? Give me a break. Primary school may be OK at best, but the middle school over there is horrible. Puhleeeeze.

[waiting for bottom]

Yes, I have phisically visited them and yes I would buy them at the right price.

92069 over SEH??? Give me a break. Primary school may be OK at best, but the middle school over there is horrible. Puhleeeeze.

[niy38]

I would choose Santa Fe Hill ( 92069) over SEH:

Santa Fe Hill is much affordable than SEH, and
it has good primary school. Very easy access to
78 and shopping and recreation center is just across
78.

[niy38]

I would choose Santa Fe Hill ( 92069) over SEH:

Santa Fe Hill is much affordable than SEH, and
it has good primary school. Very easy access to
78 and shopping and recreation center is just across
78.

[niy38]

I would choose Santa Fe Hill ( 92069) over SEH:

Santa Fe Hill is much affordable than SEH, and
it has good primary school. Very easy access to
78 and shopping and recreation center is just across
78.

[niy38]

I would choose Santa Fe Hill ( 92069) over SEH:

Santa Fe Hill is much affordable than SEH, and
it has good primary school. Very easy access to
78 and shopping and recreation center is just across
78.

[sdrealtor]

SEH has HUGE Mello Roos fees, a very questionable high school situation, major accessibility issues, a very sterile feel and oh yeah….it was built on a landfill. other than that its great. you can have SEH every time. I wouldnt live there if it was free.

I’d take an older home on a nice size lot in Encinitas or Rancho ponderosa over any of those areas every time.

[CBad]

WFB, question, why would you know the salaries of these husbands in your kid’s playgroup?? Or are you just guessing? We certainly never discussed that topic when I was involved in one!

And spending like crazy is not a good indicator of salary (nor is the lack thereof).

[CBad]

WFB, question, why would you know the salaries of these husbands in your kid’s playgroup?? Or are you just guessing? We certainly never discussed that topic when I was involved in one!

And spending like crazy is not a good indicator of salary (nor is the lack thereof).

[CBad]

WFB, question, why would you know the salaries of these husbands in your kid’s playgroup?? Or are you just guessing? We certainly never discussed that topic when I was involved in one!

And spending like crazy is not a good indicator of salary (nor is the lack thereof).

[CBad]

WFB, question, why would you know the salaries of these husbands in your kid’s playgroup?? Or are you just guessing? We certainly never discussed that topic when I was involved in one!

And spending like crazy is not a good indicator of salary (nor is the lack thereof).

[CBad]

WFB, question, why would you know the salaries of these husbands in your kid’s playgroup?? Or are you just guessing? We certainly never discussed that topic when I was involved in one!

And spending like crazy is not a good indicator of salary (nor is the lack thereof).

[sdrealtor]

SEH has HUGE Mello Roos fees, a very questionable high school situation, major accessibility issues, a very sterile feel and oh yeah….it was built on a landfill. other than that its great. you can have SEH every time. I wouldnt live there if it was free.

I’d take an older home on a nice size lot in Encinitas or Rancho ponderosa over any of those areas every time.

[sdrealtor]

SEH has HUGE Mello Roos fees, a very questionable high school situation, major accessibility issues, a very sterile feel and oh yeah….it was built on a landfill. other than that its great. you can have SEH every time. I wouldnt live there if it was free.

I’d take an older home on a nice size lot in Encinitas or Rancho ponderosa over any of those areas every time.

[sdrealtor]

SEH has HUGE Mello Roos fees, a very questionable high school situation, major accessibility issues, a very sterile feel and oh yeah….it was built on a landfill. other than that its great. you can have SEH every time. I wouldnt live there if it was free.

I’d take an older home on a nice size lot in Encinitas or Rancho ponderosa over any of those areas every time.

[sdrealtor]

SEH has HUGE Mello Roos fees, a very questionable high school situation, major accessibility issues, a very sterile feel and oh yeah….it was built on a landfill. other than that its great. you can have SEH every time. I wouldnt live there if it was free.

I’d take an older home on a nice size lot in Encinitas or Rancho ponderosa over any of those areas every time.

[waiting for bottom]

Also, I see no difference between SEH (92078), Rancho Carillo (92009) and Calavera Hills (92010) from a livablility standpoint.

I would take SEH every time. It is cheaper, mostly newer, and the schools are better than Calavera, same as Carillo.

But I want to live in 92011. Just waiting for the virus to infect them. The data here shows it is starting.

[waiting for bottom]

Also, I see no difference between SEH (92078), Rancho Carillo (92009) and Calavera Hills (92010) from a livablility standpoint.

I would take SEH every time. It is cheaper, mostly newer, and the schools are better than Calavera, same as Carillo.

But I want to live in 92011. Just waiting for the virus to infect them. The data here shows it is starting.

[waiting for bottom]

Also, I see no difference between SEH (92078), Rancho Carillo (92009) and Calavera Hills (92010) from a livablility standpoint.

I would take SEH every time. It is cheaper, mostly newer, and the schools are better than Calavera, same as Carillo.

But I want to live in 92011. Just waiting for the virus to infect them. The data here shows it is starting.

[waiting for bottom]

Also, I see no difference between SEH (92078), Rancho Carillo (92009) and Calavera Hills (92010) from a livablility standpoint.

I would take SEH every time. It is cheaper, mostly newer, and the schools are better than Calavera, same as Carillo.

But I want to live in 92011. Just waiting for the virus to infect them. The data here shows it is starting.

[waiting for bottom]

I was speaking only to the 92009 that I have a prayer of affording.

[waiting for bottom]

I was speaking only to the 92009 that I have a prayer of affording.

[waiting for bottom]

I was speaking only to the 92009 that I have a prayer of affording.

[waiting for bottom]

I was speaking only to the 92009 that I have a prayer of affording.

[waiting for bottom]

Looks like we caught sdrealtor using both sides of the “it is what it is” argument…..or is it “close enough?”

[waiting for bottom]

Looks like we caught sdrealtor using both sides of the “it is what it is” argument…..or is it “close enough?”

[waiting for bottom]

Looks like we caught sdrealtor using both sides of the “it is what it is” argument…..or is it “close enough?”

[waiting for bottom]

Looks like we caught sdrealtor using both sides of the “it is what it is” argument…..or is it “close enough?”

[svelte]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

The nearest of the two is 1603:

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=66110966

The Zillow pic matches my memory. The power lines are about 400-500 feet to the right (pan to the right in the pic).
Unless they have built new powerlines directly overhead since the Zillow pic was taken, they appear to be near but not under the powerlines. I supposed we could argue about whether 400-500 ft is too close. Apparently it is for you.

[svelte]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

The nearest of the two is 1603:

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=66110966

The Zillow pic matches my memory. The power lines are about 400-500 feet to the right (pan to the right in the pic).
Unless they have built new powerlines directly overhead since the Zillow pic was taken, they appear to be near but not under the powerlines. I supposed we could argue about whether 400-500 ft is too close. Apparently it is for you.

[svelte]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

The nearest of the two is 1603:

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=66110966

The Zillow pic matches my memory. The power lines are about 400-500 feet to the right (pan to the right in the pic).
Unless they have built new powerlines directly overhead since the Zillow pic was taken, they appear to be near but not under the powerlines. I supposed we could argue about whether 400-500 ft is too close. Apparently it is for you.

[svelte]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

The nearest of the two is 1603:

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=66110966

The Zillow pic matches my memory. The power lines are about 400-500 feet to the right (pan to the right in the pic).
Unless they have built new powerlines directly overhead since the Zillow pic was taken, they appear to be near but not under the powerlines. I supposed we could argue about whether 400-500 ft is too close. Apparently it is for you.

[sdrealtor]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

[sdrealtor]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

[sdrealtor]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

[sdrealtor]

HUH? Have you ever been to these homes? I have and they are most definitely under some of the biggest transmission lines in the area.

[svelte]

Those particular homes don’t appear to be near the powerlines, but they both do back up to a busy 4 lane road.

As everyone keeps saying, only the homes that are impeccable in all respects are going to sell in this environment. If the home has warts it is going to get kicked in the teeth.

Wouldn’t you do the same thing if you were a buyer with zillions of choices?

[svelte]

Those particular homes don’t appear to be near the powerlines, but they both do back up to a busy 4 lane road.

As everyone keeps saying, only the homes that are impeccable in all respects are going to sell in this environment. If the home has warts it is going to get kicked in the teeth.

Wouldn’t you do the same thing if you were a buyer with zillions of choices?

[svelte]

Those particular homes don’t appear to be near the powerlines, but they both do back up to a busy 4 lane road.

As everyone keeps saying, only the homes that are impeccable in all respects are going to sell in this environment. If the home has warts it is going to get kicked in the teeth.

Wouldn’t you do the same thing if you were a buyer with zillions of choices?

[svelte]

Those particular homes don’t appear to be near the powerlines, but they both do back up to a busy 4 lane road.

As everyone keeps saying, only the homes that are impeccable in all respects are going to sell in this environment. If the home has warts it is going to get kicked in the teeth.

Wouldn’t you do the same thing if you were a buyer with zillions of choices?

[sdrealtor]

SEH is getting slaughtered as expected by everyone. Those houses on Maritime are not in Aviara. There are also under the biggest powerlines I have ever seen not to mention impacted by frequent landings and takeoffs at Palomar Airport.

[sdrealtor]

SEH is getting slaughtered as expected by everyone. Those houses on Maritime are not in Aviara. There are also under the biggest powerlines I have ever seen not to mention impacted by frequent landings and takeoffs at Palomar Airport.

[sdrealtor]

SEH is getting slaughtered as expected by everyone. Those houses on Maritime are not in Aviara. There are also under the biggest powerlines I have ever seen not to mention impacted by frequent landings and takeoffs at Palomar Airport.

[sdrealtor]

SEH is getting slaughtered as expected by everyone. Those houses on Maritime are not in Aviara. There are also under the biggest powerlines I have ever seen not to mention impacted by frequent landings and takeoffs at Palomar Airport.

[Bugs]

And they said it would never happen in Carlsbad. Tsk, tsk.

[Bugs]

And they said it would never happen in Carlsbad. Tsk, tsk.

[Bugs]

And they said it would never happen in Carlsbad. Tsk, tsk.

[Bugs]

And they said it would never happen in Carlsbad. Tsk, tsk.

[niy38]

92011 drop little, compared to 92081,92069.
92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too

[waiting for bottom]

92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too?

Below is a link to an SEH analysis, see data also. If houses selling 25% below 2005 levels isn’t much to you, then I guess your statement was correct.

http://piggington.com/san_elijo_hills_analysis

Selling for less than purchase price:
1531 Clifftop – $590K – $223 sq/ft – Sold $782K 3/05 (-25%)
1098 Brightwood – $599K – $233 sq/ft – Sold $762K 11/04 (-21%)
704 Hollowbrook – $635K – $226 sq/ft – Sold $754K 1/06 (-16%)
726 Leeward – $648K – $216 sq/ft – Sold $760K 3/06 (-15%)
979 Baylor – $727K – $217 sq/ft – Sold $771K 6/04 (-6%) PENDING SALE – Congrats, good luck with that one.
878 Antilla – $740K – $224 sq/ft – Sold $819K 4/05 (-10%)
855 Antilla – $699K – $194 sq/ft – Sold $872K 7/05 (-20%)
871 Antilla – $750K – $220 sq/ft – Sold $865K 3/05 (-13%)
1419 Eclipse – $750K – $229 sq/ft – Sold $885K 10/06 (-15%)

On track to sell by 2020:
1005 Brightwood – $699K – $243 sq/ft – Sold $856K 3/05 (-18%)
1089 Brightwood – $699K – $246 sq/ft – Sold $800K 11/04 (-13%)
1474 Anchor – $725K – $258 sq/ft – No sale available (Gorgeous house with ocean view but get real)
1085 Brightwood – $699K – $264 sq/ft – Sold $745K 11/04 (-6%)
1079 Grain Mill – $699K – $270 sq/ft – Sold $654K 6/05 (+7%)
948 Citrine – $750K – $283 sq/ft – Sold $717K 4/06 (+5%)

[niy38]

To waiting for bottom:

compared to 92081 and 92069, of course this is not much.
there are A LOT dropping that number, not just 1 or 2
example.

772 CAMINO MAGNIFICO, 92069,List Price: $459,000 – $459,000
last purchase: 05/27/2005: $606,000

1064 CAMINO DEL SOL, 92069, List Price: $479,000 – $495,000
05/12/2006: $625,000

………………….

where is your example of 92009 ?

but I agree your example of 92011 is in Aviara:
http://www.aviarahomes.com/page.cfm?page=NewsNeighborhood

[sdrealtor]

Did you read the link you posted? Morning Ridge is NOT, I repeat is NOT in Aviara. It is in the same zip code but does not fall within the official Aviara boundaries.

[niy38]

where is official definition of Aviara?

[sdrealtor]

At the top of the page you provided a link to.

[niy38]

but that one include Morning Ridge.

[niy38]

but that one include Morning Ridge.

[niy38]

but that one include Morning Ridge.

[niy38]

but that one include Morning Ridge.

[niy38]

but that one include Morning Ridge.

[waiting for bottom]

sd realtor, you are really splitting hairs with your definition of Aviara. These houses are just accross Poinsettia from Aviara and right next to Aviara Park.

I lived in corporate housing near them and I would live there permanenly without a doubt.

The power lines are an issue all through Aviara, even on the golf course.

Any way you slice it, this is a great area that is showing weakness, period.

[sdrealtor]

It is what it is. Kinda like the folks in SEH who say its almost Carlsbad.

The real Aviara has a certain feel to it that you don’t find in Morning Ridge. The real Aviara is located south of Aviara parkway and is influenced by a beautiful lagoon not a busy airport.

[waiting for bottom]

I lived there, the feel is the same. The SEH sames as Carlsbad argument is covering at least a mile, here we are talking about only a block!!

Moot point anyways.

Aviara or not, great houses in 92011 near two great schools, next to a park, and 3 miles from the coast are dropping below 2005 levels.

[sdrealtor]

I have good friends that lived in an almost Aviara home and hated it. The moved to a home that isnt as nice but its in the real Aviara down by the lagoon and they love it.

To each his own but there is defintely a difference.

BTW, you lived in a corporate appartment (Mirabella) that is not the same as either.

[waiting for bottom]

Quit being a bull sd realator.

Everytime I show Carlsbad weakness you split hairs.

92010 is crumbling.
92008 is too.
92011 is beginning.
92009 I don’t care, houses are too old and most are in the SM school district anyways.

[sdrealtor]

Huh? I’ve been claiming Carlsbad was back at 2004 prices and even lower in some cases for more than a year. Carlsbad is starting to show weakness it has been declining for at least 2 years. However, relative to other areas it has held up very well.

BTW you are completely wrong about 92009. At least half of it is in the Encinitas/San Dieguito school district and the homes are some of the nicest newer homes in the county. Take a drive through The Ranch behind LCC, check out Arroyo Vista, Santa Fe Trails, La Costa Valley, Summerwalk and several others nearby. You will find some of the nicest neighborhoods anywhere in SD County.

[sdrealtor]

Huh? I’ve been claiming Carlsbad was back at 2004 prices and even lower in some cases for more than a year. Carlsbad is starting to show weakness it has been declining for at least 2 years. However, relative to other areas it has held up very well.

BTW you are completely wrong about 92009. At least half of it is in the Encinitas/San Dieguito school district and the homes are some of the nicest newer homes in the county. Take a drive through The Ranch behind LCC, check out Arroyo Vista, Santa Fe Trails, La Costa Valley, Summerwalk and several others nearby. You will find some of the nicest neighborhoods anywhere in SD County.

[sdrealtor]

Huh? I’ve been claiming Carlsbad was back at 2004 prices and even lower in some cases for more than a year. Carlsbad is starting to show weakness it has been declining for at least 2 years. However, relative to other areas it has held up very well.

BTW you are completely wrong about 92009. At least half of it is in the Encinitas/San Dieguito school district and the homes are some of the nicest newer homes in the county. Take a drive through The Ranch behind LCC, check out Arroyo Vista, Santa Fe Trails, La Costa Valley, Summerwalk and several others nearby. You will find some of the nicest neighborhoods anywhere in SD County.

[sdrealtor]

Huh? I’ve been claiming Carlsbad was back at 2004 prices and even lower in some cases for more than a year. Carlsbad is starting to show weakness it has been declining for at least 2 years. However, relative to other areas it has held up very well.

BTW you are completely wrong about 92009. At least half of it is in the Encinitas/San Dieguito school district and the homes are some of the nicest newer homes in the county. Take a drive through The Ranch behind LCC, check out Arroyo Vista, Santa Fe Trails, La Costa Valley, Summerwalk and several others nearby. You will find some of the nicest neighborhoods anywhere in SD County.

[sdrealtor]

Huh? I’ve been claiming Carlsbad was back at 2004 prices and even lower in some cases for more than a year. Carlsbad is starting to show weakness it has been declining for at least 2 years. However, relative to other areas it has held up very well.

BTW you are completely wrong about 92009. At least half of it is in the Encinitas/San Dieguito school district and the homes are some of the nicest newer homes in the county. Take a drive through The Ranch behind LCC, check out Arroyo Vista, Santa Fe Trails, La Costa Valley, Summerwalk and several others nearby. You will find some of the nicest neighborhoods anywhere in SD County.

[waiting for bottom]

Quit being a bull sd realator.

Everytime I show Carlsbad weakness you split hairs.

92010 is crumbling.
92008 is too.
92011 is beginning.
92009 I don’t care, houses are too old and most are in the SM school district anyways.

[waiting for bottom]

Quit being a bull sd realator.

Everytime I show Carlsbad weakness you split hairs.

92010 is crumbling.
92008 is too.
92011 is beginning.
92009 I don’t care, houses are too old and most are in the SM school district anyways.

[waiting for bottom]

Quit being a bull sd realator.

Everytime I show Carlsbad weakness you split hairs.

92010 is crumbling.
92008 is too.
92011 is beginning.
92009 I don’t care, houses are too old and most are in the SM school district anyways.

[waiting for bottom]

Quit being a bull sd realator.

Everytime I show Carlsbad weakness you split hairs.

92010 is crumbling.
92008 is too.
92011 is beginning.
92009 I don’t care, houses are too old and most are in the SM school district anyways.

[sdrealtor]

I have good friends that lived in an almost Aviara home and hated it. The moved to a home that isnt as nice but its in the real Aviara down by the lagoon and they love it.

To each his own but there is defintely a difference.

BTW, you lived in a corporate appartment (Mirabella) that is not the same as either.

[sdrealtor]

I have good friends that lived in an almost Aviara home and hated it. The moved to a home that isnt as nice but its in the real Aviara down by the lagoon and they love it.

To each his own but there is defintely a difference.

BTW, you lived in a corporate appartment (Mirabella) that is not the same as either.

[sdrealtor]

I have good friends that lived in an almost Aviara home and hated it. The moved to a home that isnt as nice but its in the real Aviara down by the lagoon and they love it.

To each his own but there is defintely a difference.

BTW, you lived in a corporate appartment (Mirabella) that is not the same as either.

[sdrealtor]

I have good friends that lived in an almost Aviara home and hated it. The moved to a home that isnt as nice but its in the real Aviara down by the lagoon and they love it.

To each his own but there is defintely a difference.

BTW, you lived in a corporate appartment (Mirabella) that is not the same as either.

[waiting for bottom]

I lived there, the feel is the same. The SEH sames as Carlsbad argument is covering at least a mile, here we are talking about only a block!!

Moot point anyways.

Aviara or not, great houses in 92011 near two great schools, next to a park, and 3 miles from the coast are dropping below 2005 levels.

[waiting for bottom]

I lived there, the feel is the same. The SEH sames as Carlsbad argument is covering at least a mile, here we are talking about only a block!!

Moot point anyways.

Aviara or not, great houses in 92011 near two great schools, next to a park, and 3 miles from the coast are dropping below 2005 levels.

[waiting for bottom]

I lived there, the feel is the same. The SEH sames as Carlsbad argument is covering at least a mile, here we are talking about only a block!!

Moot point anyways.

Aviara or not, great houses in 92011 near two great schools, next to a park, and 3 miles from the coast are dropping below 2005 levels.

[waiting for bottom]

I lived there, the feel is the same. The SEH sames as Carlsbad argument is covering at least a mile, here we are talking about only a block!!

Moot point anyways.

Aviara or not, great houses in 92011 near two great schools, next to a park, and 3 miles from the coast are dropping below 2005 levels.

[sdrealtor]

It is what it is. Kinda like the folks in SEH who say its almost Carlsbad.

The real Aviara has a certain feel to it that you don’t find in Morning Ridge. The real Aviara is located south of Aviara parkway and is influenced by a beautiful lagoon not a busy airport.

[sdrealtor]

It is what it is. Kinda like the folks in SEH who say its almost Carlsbad.

The real Aviara has a certain feel to it that you don’t find in Morning Ridge. The real Aviara is located south of Aviara parkway and is influenced by a beautiful lagoon not a busy airport.

[sdrealtor]

It is what it is. Kinda like the folks in SEH who say its almost Carlsbad.

The real Aviara has a certain feel to it that you don’t find in Morning Ridge. The real Aviara is located south of Aviara parkway and is influenced by a beautiful lagoon not a busy airport.

[sdrealtor]

It is what it is. Kinda like the folks in SEH who say its almost Carlsbad.

The real Aviara has a certain feel to it that you don’t find in Morning Ridge. The real Aviara is located south of Aviara parkway and is influenced by a beautiful lagoon not a busy airport.

[waiting for bottom]

sd realtor, you are really splitting hairs with your definition of Aviara. These houses are just accross Poinsettia from Aviara and right next to Aviara Park.

I lived in corporate housing near them and I would live there permanenly without a doubt.

The power lines are an issue all through Aviara, even on the golf course.

Any way you slice it, this is a great area that is showing weakness, period.

[waiting for bottom]

sd realtor, you are really splitting hairs with your definition of Aviara. These houses are just accross Poinsettia from Aviara and right next to Aviara Park.

I lived in corporate housing near them and I would live there permanenly without a doubt.

The power lines are an issue all through Aviara, even on the golf course.

Any way you slice it, this is a great area that is showing weakness, period.

[waiting for bottom]

sd realtor, you are really splitting hairs with your definition of Aviara. These houses are just accross Poinsettia from Aviara and right next to Aviara Park.

I lived in corporate housing near them and I would live there permanenly without a doubt.

The power lines are an issue all through Aviara, even on the golf course.

Any way you slice it, this is a great area that is showing weakness, period.

[waiting for bottom]

sd realtor, you are really splitting hairs with your definition of Aviara. These houses are just accross Poinsettia from Aviara and right next to Aviara Park.

I lived in corporate housing near them and I would live there permanenly without a doubt.

The power lines are an issue all through Aviara, even on the golf course.

Any way you slice it, this is a great area that is showing weakness, period.

[sdrealtor]

At the top of the page you provided a link to.

[sdrealtor]

At the top of the page you provided a link to.

[sdrealtor]

At the top of the page you provided a link to.

[sdrealtor]

At the top of the page you provided a link to.

[niy38]

where is official definition of Aviara?

[niy38]

where is official definition of Aviara?

[niy38]

where is official definition of Aviara?

[niy38]

where is official definition of Aviara?

[sdrealtor]

Did you read the link you posted? Morning Ridge is NOT, I repeat is NOT in Aviara. It is in the same zip code but does not fall within the official Aviara boundaries.

[sdrealtor]

Did you read the link you posted? Morning Ridge is NOT, I repeat is NOT in Aviara. It is in the same zip code but does not fall within the official Aviara boundaries.

[sdrealtor]

Did you read the link you posted? Morning Ridge is NOT, I repeat is NOT in Aviara. It is in the same zip code but does not fall within the official Aviara boundaries.

[sdrealtor]

Did you read the link you posted? Morning Ridge is NOT, I repeat is NOT in Aviara. It is in the same zip code but does not fall within the official Aviara boundaries.

[niy38]

To waiting for bottom:

compared to 92081 and 92069, of course this is not much.
there are A LOT dropping that number, not just 1 or 2
example.

772 CAMINO MAGNIFICO, 92069,List Price: $459,000 – $459,000
last purchase: 05/27/2005: $606,000

1064 CAMINO DEL SOL, 92069, List Price: $479,000 – $495,000
05/12/2006: $625,000

………………….

where is your example of 92009 ?

but I agree your example of 92011 is in Aviara:
http://www.aviarahomes.com/page.cfm?page=NewsNeighborhood

[niy38]

To waiting for bottom:

compared to 92081 and 92069, of course this is not much.
there are A LOT dropping that number, not just 1 or 2
example.

772 CAMINO MAGNIFICO, 92069,List Price: $459,000 – $459,000
last purchase: 05/27/2005: $606,000

1064 CAMINO DEL SOL, 92069, List Price: $479,000 – $495,000
05/12/2006: $625,000

………………….

where is your example of 92009 ?

but I agree your example of 92011 is in Aviara:
http://www.aviarahomes.com/page.cfm?page=NewsNeighborhood

[niy38]

To waiting for bottom:

compared to 92081 and 92069, of course this is not much.
there are A LOT dropping that number, not just 1 or 2
example.

772 CAMINO MAGNIFICO, 92069,List Price: $459,000 – $459,000
last purchase: 05/27/2005: $606,000

1064 CAMINO DEL SOL, 92069, List Price: $479,000 – $495,000
05/12/2006: $625,000

………………….

where is your example of 92009 ?

but I agree your example of 92011 is in Aviara:
http://www.aviarahomes.com/page.cfm?page=NewsNeighborhood

[niy38]

To waiting for bottom:

compared to 92081 and 92069, of course this is not much.
there are A LOT dropping that number, not just 1 or 2
example.

772 CAMINO MAGNIFICO, 92069,List Price: $459,000 – $459,000
last purchase: 05/27/2005: $606,000

1064 CAMINO DEL SOL, 92069, List Price: $479,000 – $495,000
05/12/2006: $625,000

………………….

where is your example of 92009 ?

but I agree your example of 92011 is in Aviara:
http://www.aviarahomes.com/page.cfm?page=NewsNeighborhood

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92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too?

Below is a link to an SEH analysis, see data also. If houses selling 25% below 2005 levels isn’t much to you, then I guess your statement was correct.

http://piggington.com/san_elijo_hills_analysis

Selling for less than purchase price:
1531 Clifftop – $590K – $223 sq/ft – Sold $782K 3/05 (-25%)
1098 Brightwood – $599K – $233 sq/ft – Sold $762K 11/04 (-21%)
704 Hollowbrook – $635K – $226 sq/ft – Sold $754K 1/06 (-16%)
726 Leeward – $648K – $216 sq/ft – Sold $760K 3/06 (-15%)
979 Baylor – $727K – $217 sq/ft – Sold $771K 6/04 (-6%) PENDING SALE – Congrats, good luck with that one.
878 Antilla – $740K – $224 sq/ft – Sold $819K 4/05 (-10%)
855 Antilla – $699K – $194 sq/ft – Sold $872K 7/05 (-20%)
871 Antilla – $750K – $220 sq/ft – Sold $865K 3/05 (-13%)
1419 Eclipse – $750K – $229 sq/ft – Sold $885K 10/06 (-15%)

On track to sell by 2020:
1005 Brightwood – $699K – $243 sq/ft – Sold $856K 3/05 (-18%)
1089 Brightwood – $699K – $246 sq/ft – Sold $800K 11/04 (-13%)
1474 Anchor – $725K – $258 sq/ft – No sale available (Gorgeous house with ocean view but get real)
1085 Brightwood – $699K – $264 sq/ft – Sold $745K 11/04 (-6%)
1079 Grain Mill – $699K – $270 sq/ft – Sold $654K 6/05 (+7%)
948 Citrine – $750K – $283 sq/ft – Sold $717K 4/06 (+5%)

[waiting for bottom]

92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too?

Below is a link to an SEH analysis, see data also. If houses selling 25% below 2005 levels isn’t much to you, then I guess your statement was correct.

http://piggington.com/san_elijo_hills_analysis

Selling for less than purchase price:
1531 Clifftop – $590K – $223 sq/ft – Sold $782K 3/05 (-25%)
1098 Brightwood – $599K – $233 sq/ft – Sold $762K 11/04 (-21%)
704 Hollowbrook – $635K – $226 sq/ft – Sold $754K 1/06 (-16%)
726 Leeward – $648K – $216 sq/ft – Sold $760K 3/06 (-15%)
979 Baylor – $727K – $217 sq/ft – Sold $771K 6/04 (-6%) PENDING SALE – Congrats, good luck with that one.
878 Antilla – $740K – $224 sq/ft – Sold $819K 4/05 (-10%)
855 Antilla – $699K – $194 sq/ft – Sold $872K 7/05 (-20%)
871 Antilla – $750K – $220 sq/ft – Sold $865K 3/05 (-13%)
1419 Eclipse – $750K – $229 sq/ft – Sold $885K 10/06 (-15%)

On track to sell by 2020:
1005 Brightwood – $699K – $243 sq/ft – Sold $856K 3/05 (-18%)
1089 Brightwood – $699K – $246 sq/ft – Sold $800K 11/04 (-13%)
1474 Anchor – $725K – $258 sq/ft – No sale available (Gorgeous house with ocean view but get real)
1085 Brightwood – $699K – $264 sq/ft – Sold $745K 11/04 (-6%)
1079 Grain Mill – $699K – $270 sq/ft – Sold $654K 6/05 (+7%)
948 Citrine – $750K – $283 sq/ft – Sold $717K 4/06 (+5%)

[waiting for bottom]

92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too?

Below is a link to an SEH analysis, see data also. If houses selling 25% below 2005 levels isn’t much to you, then I guess your statement was correct.

http://piggington.com/san_elijo_hills_analysis

Selling for less than purchase price:
1531 Clifftop – $590K – $223 sq/ft – Sold $782K 3/05 (-25%)
1098 Brightwood – $599K – $233 sq/ft – Sold $762K 11/04 (-21%)
704 Hollowbrook – $635K – $226 sq/ft – Sold $754K 1/06 (-16%)
726 Leeward – $648K – $216 sq/ft – Sold $760K 3/06 (-15%)
979 Baylor – $727K – $217 sq/ft – Sold $771K 6/04 (-6%) PENDING SALE – Congrats, good luck with that one.
878 Antilla – $740K – $224 sq/ft – Sold $819K 4/05 (-10%)
855 Antilla – $699K – $194 sq/ft – Sold $872K 7/05 (-20%)
871 Antilla – $750K – $220 sq/ft – Sold $865K 3/05 (-13%)
1419 Eclipse – $750K – $229 sq/ft – Sold $885K 10/06 (-15%)

On track to sell by 2020:
1005 Brightwood – $699K – $243 sq/ft – Sold $856K 3/05 (-18%)
1089 Brightwood – $699K – $246 sq/ft – Sold $800K 11/04 (-13%)
1474 Anchor – $725K – $258 sq/ft – No sale available (Gorgeous house with ocean view but get real)
1085 Brightwood – $699K – $264 sq/ft – Sold $745K 11/04 (-6%)
1079 Grain Mill – $699K – $270 sq/ft – Sold $654K 6/05 (+7%)
948 Citrine – $750K – $283 sq/ft – Sold $717K 4/06 (+5%)

[waiting for bottom]

92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too?

Below is a link to an SEH analysis, see data also. If houses selling 25% below 2005 levels isn’t much to you, then I guess your statement was correct.

http://piggington.com/san_elijo_hills_analysis

Selling for less than purchase price:
1531 Clifftop – $590K – $223 sq/ft – Sold $782K 3/05 (-25%)
1098 Brightwood – $599K – $233 sq/ft – Sold $762K 11/04 (-21%)
704 Hollowbrook – $635K – $226 sq/ft – Sold $754K 1/06 (-16%)
726 Leeward – $648K – $216 sq/ft – Sold $760K 3/06 (-15%)
979 Baylor – $727K – $217 sq/ft – Sold $771K 6/04 (-6%) PENDING SALE – Congrats, good luck with that one.
878 Antilla – $740K – $224 sq/ft – Sold $819K 4/05 (-10%)
855 Antilla – $699K – $194 sq/ft – Sold $872K 7/05 (-20%)
871 Antilla – $750K – $220 sq/ft – Sold $865K 3/05 (-13%)
1419 Eclipse – $750K – $229 sq/ft – Sold $885K 10/06 (-15%)

On track to sell by 2020:
1005 Brightwood – $699K – $243 sq/ft – Sold $856K 3/05 (-18%)
1089 Brightwood – $699K – $246 sq/ft – Sold $800K 11/04 (-13%)
1474 Anchor – $725K – $258 sq/ft – No sale available (Gorgeous house with ocean view but get real)
1085 Brightwood – $699K – $264 sq/ft – Sold $745K 11/04 (-6%)
1079 Grain Mill – $699K – $270 sq/ft – Sold $654K 6/05 (+7%)
948 Citrine – $750K – $283 sq/ft – Sold $717K 4/06 (+5%)

[niy38]

92011 drop little, compared to 92081,92069.
92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too

[niy38]

92011 drop little, compared to 92081,92069.
92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too

[niy38]

92011 drop little, compared to 92081,92069.
92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too

[niy38]

92011 drop little, compared to 92081,92069.
92009 and 92078 SEH drop not much too

[niy38]

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-071080892-7017_Snapdragon_Dr_Carlsbad_CA_92011

this owner is still in denial stage.

[niy38]

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-071080892-7017_Snapdragon_Dr_Carlsbad_CA_92011

this owner is still in denial stage.

[niy38]

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-071080892-7017_Snapdragon_Dr_Carlsbad_CA_92011

this owner is still in denial stage.

[niy38]

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-071080892-7017_Snapdragon_Dr_Carlsbad_CA_92011

this owner is still in denial stage.

[niy38]

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-071080892-7017_Snapdragon_Dr_Carlsbad_CA_92011

this owner is still in denial stage.

[niy38]

Carlsbad is holding well and just start to show declining.

[niy38]

Carlsbad is holding well and just start to show declining.

[niy38]

Carlsbad is holding well and just start to show declining.

[niy38]

Carlsbad is holding well and just start to show declining.

[niy38]

Carlsbad is holding well and just start to show declining.

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