Is 25 – 30% off a good deal?

[Eugene]

From census.gov

Median family income in San Diego metropolitan area:
1999: $53,438
2006: $69,099

That’s 29%. 1997-2007 difference will be bigger.

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http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-context=dt&-ds_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_&-CONTEXT=dt&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B19113&-tree_id=306&-redoLog=false&-geo_id=31000US41740&-search_results=31000US41740&-format=&-_lang=en&-SubjectID=14830196

[kewp]

That’s 29%. 1997-2007 difference will be bigger.

How much of that is due to the housing boom? I suspect we won’t know until at least the 2009-2010 numbers come out.

[kewp]

That’s 29%. 1997-2007 difference will be bigger.

How much of that is due to the housing boom? I suspect we won’t know until at least the 2009-2010 numbers come out.

[kewp]

That’s 29%. 1997-2007 difference will be bigger.

How much of that is due to the housing boom? I suspect we won’t know until at least the 2009-2010 numbers come out.

[kewp]

That’s 29%. 1997-2007 difference will be bigger.

How much of that is due to the housing boom? I suspect we won’t know until at least the 2009-2010 numbers come out.

[kewp]

That’s 29%. 1997-2007 difference will be bigger.

How much of that is due to the housing boom? I suspect we won’t know until at least the 2009-2010 numbers come out.

[4plexowner]

Keynesian economics at its finest!

let’s debase the money supply (call it inflation if you must) so everyone can earn more money and live in a house that costs more

[4plexowner]

Keynesian economics at its finest!

let’s debase the money supply (call it inflation if you must) so everyone can earn more money and live in a house that costs more

[4plexowner]

Keynesian economics at its finest!

let’s debase the money supply (call it inflation if you must) so everyone can earn more money and live in a house that costs more

[4plexowner]

Keynesian economics at its finest!

let’s debase the money supply (call it inflation if you must) so everyone can earn more money and live in a house that costs more

[4plexowner]

Keynesian economics at its finest!

let’s debase the money supply (call it inflation if you must) so everyone can earn more money and live in a house that costs more

[Eugene]

Remember you need to subtract:

A. Real-estate related job losses.

B. Local economy job losses due to the above as well as the disappearance of the “house as ATM” effect.

Given that something like 25% of our employment is in the RE sector, I can see at least a 30-40% decline in the median income until we hit bottom.

RE sector employment is less than 25%, and unemployment in that sector is still far from 100%. According to http://piggington.com/october_employment_0, construction, finance, and retail lost only 4,000 jobs since October ’06.

Back to census.gov

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-context=dt&-ds_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_&-CONTEXT=dt&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24050&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24070&-tree_id=306&-redoLog=false&-geo_id=31000US41740&-geo_id=NBSP&-search_results=01000US&-format=&-_lang=en&-SubjectID=14830196

Out of 1.3m jobs, 117,089 are in construction; 64,846 are in finance and insurance; 40,443 in “real estate and rental and leasing”. Much of “finance and insurance” is not related to RE. “Real estate and rental and leasing” includes employees of apartment complexes, commercial RE, etc.

[Eugene]

Remember you need to subtract:

A. Real-estate related job losses.

B. Local economy job losses due to the above as well as the disappearance of the “house as ATM” effect.

Given that something like 25% of our employment is in the RE sector, I can see at least a 30-40% decline in the median income until we hit bottom.

RE sector employment is less than 25%, and unemployment in that sector is still far from 100%. According to http://piggington.com/october_employment_0, construction, finance, and retail lost only 4,000 jobs since October ’06.

Back to census.gov

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-context=dt&-ds_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_&-CONTEXT=dt&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24050&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24070&-tree_id=306&-redoLog=false&-geo_id=31000US41740&-geo_id=NBSP&-search_results=01000US&-format=&-_lang=en&-SubjectID=14830196

Out of 1.3m jobs, 117,089 are in construction; 64,846 are in finance and insurance; 40,443 in “real estate and rental and leasing”. Much of “finance and insurance” is not related to RE. “Real estate and rental and leasing” includes employees of apartment complexes, commercial RE, etc.

[Eugene]

Remember you need to subtract:

A. Real-estate related job losses.

B. Local economy job losses due to the above as well as the disappearance of the “house as ATM” effect.

Given that something like 25% of our employment is in the RE sector, I can see at least a 30-40% decline in the median income until we hit bottom.

RE sector employment is less than 25%, and unemployment in that sector is still far from 100%. According to http://piggington.com/october_employment_0, construction, finance, and retail lost only 4,000 jobs since October ’06.

Back to census.gov

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-context=dt&-ds_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_&-CONTEXT=dt&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24050&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24070&-tree_id=306&-redoLog=false&-geo_id=31000US41740&-geo_id=NBSP&-search_results=01000US&-format=&-_lang=en&-SubjectID=14830196

Out of 1.3m jobs, 117,089 are in construction; 64,846 are in finance and insurance; 40,443 in “real estate and rental and leasing”. Much of “finance and insurance” is not related to RE. “Real estate and rental and leasing” includes employees of apartment complexes, commercial RE, etc.

[Eugene]

Remember you need to subtract:

A. Real-estate related job losses.

B. Local economy job losses due to the above as well as the disappearance of the “house as ATM” effect.

Given that something like 25% of our employment is in the RE sector, I can see at least a 30-40% decline in the median income until we hit bottom.

RE sector employment is less than 25%, and unemployment in that sector is still far from 100%. According to http://piggington.com/october_employment_0, construction, finance, and retail lost only 4,000 jobs since October ’06.

Back to census.gov

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-context=dt&-ds_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_&-CONTEXT=dt&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24050&-mt_name=ACS_2006_EST_G2000_B24070&-tree_id=306&-redoLog=false&-geo_id=31000US41740&-geo_id=NBSP&-search_results=01000US&-format=&-_lang=en&-SubjectID=14830196

Out of 1.3m jobs, 117,089 are in construction; 64,846 are in finance and insurance; 40,443 in “real estate and rental and leasing”. Much of “finance and insurance” is not related to RE. “Real estate and rental and leasing” includes employees of apartment complexes, commercial RE, etc.

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