Interesting COVID numbers article – Pigg thoughts ?

[sdduuuude]

Curious to see what the Piggs think about this. A nice article on numbers with clear definitions. I buy it 100% but need some skeptics to convince me otherwise.

COVID – why terminology really, really matters

[scaredyclassic]

Maybe.

Except in my mind, anecdotally i knew a pretty healthy looking cop in his 50s who died. I doubt he wouldve died from the flu.

Could have…but….

[sdduuuude]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Maybe.

Except in my mind, anecdotally i knew a pretty healthy looking cop in his 50s who died. I doubt he wouldve died from the flu.

Could have…but….[/quote]

The ball has different colors when you cut into it but it is the same size ball. Many children who would have died from the flu have survived COVID, for example.

[scaredyclassic]

Kendrick sounds like hes taken some controversial, maybe unscientific positions.

Dont mean hes wrong, but he looks like he likes to say krazy shit

[The-Shoveler]

IMO Sweden had it right (although they could have done a better job protecting the elderly).

In the end the numbers were not much different than France or Spain etc…

Trying to do a hard lock down in the USA is just a really dumb Idea IMO.

[spdrun]

We never had a hard lockdown in the US … even in NYC in March-May, there were no travel restrictions to speak of, parks were open, many stores were open, de-facto outdoor dining and bars existed.

Sweden didn’t have it right. South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan had it right … “soft” lockdowns combined with contact-tracing via apps, zealous testing programs, widespread mask use, etc. I don’t get why so many people are getting their titties in a bind about mask use here in the USA — it’s the socially least costly way of controlling viral spread.

[scaredyclassic]

What about if the infection rate (R0) is higher and its only a bit more deadly. That would kill a lot more people. Dwaths seem to be around 500 daily. Its not normal 180000 peoole to bw dying of flu in summer.

Aldo, unknown longterm effects. Not sure theres any evidence of younger healthy people being long term injured from flu.

[Myriad]

[quote=spdrun]We never had a hard lockdown in the US … even in NYC in March-May, there were no travel restrictions to speak of, parks were open, many stores were open, de-facto outdoor dining and bars existed.

Sweden didn’t have it right. South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan had it right … “soft” lockdowns combined with contact-tracing via apps, zealous testing programs, widespread mask use, etc. I don’t get why so many people are getting their titties in a bind about mask use here in the USA — it’s the socially least costly way of controlling viral spread.[/quote]

Right, if people wore a mask, followed social distancing, limited large gatherings, SD wouldn’t have had a 2nd shutdown of dining.

As as shitty at the CCP is, they were serious about the lockdowns. People couldn’t leave their apartments, any travel outside was severely restrained, and people were constantly monitored.
(not advocating it, just stating the facts here).
People in the US should have taken it really seriously back in Feb, when China locked down a city right before Chinese NY. If they were taking that action AND allowing the world to find out, it was really f**king bad.

[The-Shoveler]

“Sweden has gone from being the country with the most infections in Europe to the safest one.”

Sweden Close To Victory Over Coronavirus; Never Had A Lockdown Or Mask Mandate

[ltsddd]

Let’s put it in perspective.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87812

“However, on a per-capita basis, Sweden far outpaces its Scandinavian neighbors in COVID deaths, with 567 deaths per million people compared with Denmark’s 106 deaths per million, Finland’s 59 deaths per million, and Norway’s 47 deaths per million. The Swedish figure is closer to Italy’s 581 deaths per million.”

BTW., not having a lock-down as part of a plan is not the same as not having a lock-down b/c our leader is clueless or was hoping for a miracle to happen in April.

[The-Shoveler]

Sweden’s numbers are very similar to France, Spain and most the rest of Europe as well as USA and most the rest of the America’s.

So either we do a completely crappy job at lock downs or they realty don’t work here for a variety of reasons IMO.

[pencilneck]

“Previously, in the world of infectious diseases, it has been accepted that a ‘case’ represents someone with symptoms, usually severe symptoms, usually severe enough to be admitted to hospital.”

Nonsense.

HIV positive, for example, is considered a case of infectious disease even when the person shows no symptoms.

I skimmed bits of it, but didn’t read the article.

[scaredyclassic]

even trump is admitting its serious. unless.. this is more 4d chess…

[sdduuuude]

[quote=pencilneck]”Previously, in the world of infectious diseases, it has been accepted that a ‘case’ represents someone with symptoms, usually severe symptoms, usually severe enough to be admitted to hospital.”

Nonsense.

HIV positive, for example, is considered a case of infectious disease even when the person shows no symptoms.
[/quote]

Can you cite a source on that ?

[The-Shoveler]

NY-times is saying the covid tests are far too sensitive with up to a 90% false positive rate, meanwhile hospitalization and death rates are falling like a rock.

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