Here’s a fun new map I got in e-mail today

[bearishgurl]

Just fill in City and State to see income and rents by census tract. This is better than the census site because it uses colors to show income levels from one census tract to the next, dark green being the highest income census tracts.

http://www.richblockspoorblocks.com/

http://firsttuesdayjournal.com/find-out-your-neighborhoods-average-rent-and-income/?utm_source=first+tuesday+Students&utm_campaign=ff6f7cade6-Weekly_Newsletter_April_8_20134_5_2013&utm_medium=email

Remember, though, that “income levels” (as reported on tax returns) can be deceiving. Income level has little to do with household net worth, especially in the over 55 crowd.

I think it’s kind of interesting that income levels in metro and uptown SD are shown as fairly low but residential properties (especially 1-4 units) are quite valuable there.

For instance, the dark green census tract 42 (North Park; South Park) in a sea of “lower income” census tracts indicates that a plethora of “workers” have moved in there, causing the area to “gentrify.” This doesn’t mean that the new worker families necessarily have a higher net worth than their longtime-owner neighbors. It only means they have a higher annual income.

[moneymaker]

Interesting site but I’m not a believer. How do you explain Yerba Santa Drive area in 92115? Have you ever driven through that neighborhood, it is frickin amazing how big the houses/lots are in this gated community.

[SK in CV]

[quote=moneymaker]Interesting site but I’m not a believer. How do you explain Yerba Santa Drive area in 92115? Have you ever driven through that neighborhood, it is frickin amazing how big the houses/lots are in this gated community.[/quote]

I don’t think that neighborhood (Alvarado Estates) is gated, at least if it is, the gates are new. I’m pretty sure those are public streets. The reason the average income is as low as it is, is that the tract includes the much more densely populated neighborhood to the east to College Ave., which is almost all college students.

[Essbee]

Alvarado Estates IS gated, at least it was the last time I walked in/out (2004 and ~2006).

Agree with the rest of your statement… the census tract there includes many thousands of college students with very low incomes, lowering the average.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Essbee]Alvarado Estates IS gated, at least it was the last time I walked in/out (2004 and ~2006).

Agree with the rest of your statement… the census tract there includes many thousands of college students with very low incomes, lowering the average.[/quote]

I stand corrected, I just took a look on google maps and the gate is pretty obvious. It wasn’t there in 60’s when the area was originally developed, through the 80’s for sure. Last time I was there was probably mid-90’s. Pretty sure it wasn’t there then.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=Essbee]Alvarado Estates IS gated, at least it was the last time I walked in/out (2004 and ~2006).

Agree with the rest of your statement… the census tract there includes many thousands of college students with very low incomes, lowering the average.[/quote]

I stand corrected, I just took a look on google maps and the gate is pretty obvious. It wasn’t there in 60’s when the area was originally developed, through the 80’s for sure. Last time I was there was probably mid-90’s. Pretty sure it wasn’t there then.[/quote]

Yes, Essbee, I looked at (historically expensive college towns, such as) Boulder, CO, on the map. The incomes are low where the housing is traditionally high-priced to purchase in (which has obviously 3-4 college students in one rental and also students residing in dorms and filing tax returns). I attributed the low-income census tracts to the incomes of college students. Of course, the “surrounding areas of Boulder proper” (inconvenient for students) were dark green, indicating the highest incomes for the state of CO.

btw, I love the houses in Alvarado Estates. Is that where you grew up, Essbee? Give me avocado green decor with matching ball-and-chain lamp. Shag carpet a plus and a “carpet rake included” if any are still available, lol . . . awesome ‘hood, and yes, it does have a gate now.

Mid-century-type neighborhoods are my nemesis but the Assn fee here, if accurate, is outta sight on this one :=0

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-130017695-4620_Yerba_Santa_Dr_San_Diego_CA_92115

[bearishgurl]

I believe the listing in my post below is in error with a $1849 mo Assn fee. The following two listings state Alvarado Estates monthly Assn fee is $154 and $160, respectively.

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-130010108-4848_Yerba_Santa_Dr_San_Diego_CA_92115

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-130015906-92115

[moneymaker]

$150 is quite reasonable for a gated community! $1849 not so reasonable! Higher than my mortgage!

[Essbee]

[quote=bearishgurl]
btw, I love the houses in Alvarado Estates. Is that where you grew up, Essbee?[/quote]

No, but my parents live in 92115, and I’ve gone jogging there before. Even though gated, it was pretty easy to get in/out as a pedestrian.

The SDSU president’s house is somewhere in there.
Here’s an article about “too much spending on university president’s houses while tuitions rise.”

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/state&id=8680455

From a list in that article:
“San Diego State University: President Elliot Hirshman lives in University House in Alvarado Estates, not far from campus.
Square feet: 5,216
Bedrooms: 4
Bathrooms: 4
Built: 1962
Sales price: $1.2 million (in 2000)
Renovations: The university spent $257,000 using a combination of donor funds, lease revenue and catering revenue to renovate University House, including interior and exterior painting, replacement of large windows, a kitchen renovation, new carpet, pool replastering, a catering kitchen and more. “

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Essbee][quote=bearishgurl]
btw, I love the houses in Alvarado Estates. Is that where you grew up, Essbee?[/quote]

No, but my parents live in 92115, and I’ve gone jogging there before. Even though gated, it was pretty easy to get in/out as a pedestrian.

The SDSU president’s house is somewhere in there.
Here’s an article about “too much spending on university president’s houses while tuitions rise.”

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/state&id=8680455

From a list in that article:
“San Diego State University: President Elliot Hirshman lives in University House in Alvarado Estates, not far from campus.
Square feet: 5,216
Bedrooms: 4
Bathrooms: 4
Built: 1962
Sales price: $1.2 million (in 2000)
Renovations: The university spent $257,000 using a combination of donor funds, lease revenue and catering revenue to renovate University House, including interior and exterior painting, replacement of large windows, a kitchen renovation, new carpet, pool replastering, a catering kitchen and more. “[/quote]

Very interesting, Essbee. Here is the accompanying article about SDSU’s president’s home:

http://www.10news.com/news/sdsu-president-s-home-renovation-questioned

CSU’s rates are now $1587 for ONE 3-unit (incomplete or previously-failed) class and $2736 for 6 semester units (now considered “FT”).

Tuition at CSU (“fees” in CA), have risen eight times since 2004!

http://www.calstate.edu/budget/student-fees/fee-rates/

I’m beyond gratified to hear that SDSU President Hirshman has a remodeled kitchen.

[bearishgurl]

I think CSU must have “dumbed down” their FT-student status in recent years (from 12 to 6 sem units) due to budget cuts. It’s now practically impossible for a CSU junior or senior attending the most popular urban campuses to obtain more than 2 classes at a time (6 units) in their major emphasis of study.

Hence, the “career student” (by default and necessity) is born!

The CSU “system” is now endeavoring to keep all students attending for 6-8 years (and paying $2536++ every semester) so they can eventually graduate with a Bachelor Degree.

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