Grrrr…Can’t stand people like my neighbors that want to plant so much crap on such a small lot.

[Coronita]

Ok sort of peeved today. I generally am a pretty nice person (no , really I am). And my neighbor is actually a pretty nice person.

 

But when it comes to landscaping, this guy really needs professional help. What's really irritating me right now is that he unexpectedly chopped off the tree in his front "yard", and now wants to plant 3, yes three, big ass trees in in a pidly 5800+sqft lot.

 

Forget the fact that the tree they took down belongs to the city and they probably didn't get approval before they did it. Forget they they didn't even get permissions from the HOA or the neighbors that they were going to do it. What's really bugging me is they are planning on probably planting a new palm tree in front toward the side of my house, which will inevitably block part of my view.

Also for some dumbass reason, they decided to buy another tree  to plant on the backyard new the corner of the property line . I believe it's a Magnolia. And if I remember correctly, these  trees  grow big and their roots are really destructive, as one of my previous homes in the bay area had to get new  concrete work and foundation work done when one of the roots slipped underneath the slab. Not to mention that if the tree gets big, my fully sun plants are now going to be in complete shade.

You think people would be more considerate that before one does something  that  intrudes  on  another neighbor, that at least they would get an approval.

 

Also, I don't understand why people insist on cramming so much crap onto these newer homes in which the lot size is so damn small. For god sake, it's a tract home with a pidly lot. Get over it.

 

I guess I could go to the HOA and file a complaint, and go to the city to report the destruction of city property. But, anyone suggest a more tactful resolution. I really don't want to get into a pissing match. 

 

[patientrenter]

flu, I am pretty hopeless at these things in practice. As is often the case, however, the most clueless are often the first to volunteer advice, so here goes…

How about setting up some discussion with you, your neighbor, and a landscaper, so the landscaper can discuss all the pros and cons of various plants and HOA rules as if they were just giving helpful advice to two good neighbors with no gardening or other issues between them? For example, tell your neighbor that it’s great that he’s making changes, because you just happen to be talking to a really smart and helpful landscaper about what works and doesn’t work on your own lot. Ask your neighbor if he wants to sit in when the landscaper comes over next. You like your neighbor so much (you tell him) that you can just set it up so you’ll all be there, and have a few drinks and talk plants.

Just make sure the landscaper is the right guy who says the right things!

Patient renter in OC

[NotCranky]

I have no clue what to tell you but I can tell you something at least as crazy….

My lot is 660’X 1350′ I built in the middle of it more or less to be far away from the property lines to enhance privacy. My neighbor’s lot is also roughly the same size and up hill from the rear deck of my house. His property actually continues to go up hill to a wonderful 360 degree view of mountains,evening lights,ocean(sort of) and canyons He is building 2 stories on the low side, 40 feet from the property line at the most, I mean absolutely the most and probably the only really suitable spot on his property for looking into my back yard! He also drastically reduces the desirability of the best spot on my property which also has a wonderful 360 degree view of mountains,evening lights,ocean(sort of) and canyons which is now only 150 feet from his house and soon to be a hog raising facility.We were saving it to sell after a lot split or to build a really grandiose house one day to sell. He had the gall to tell me, when I first approached him, that he was concerned that we might build in that spot and block a portion of his view! It’s a pig farm buddy. It isn’t a view! 10 feet setbacks for livestock no HOA.

[Alex_angel]

HOAs should specifically spell out what you can and cannot plant. If those palms or magnolias are not on the list then the HOA will force him to take them down.

This reminds me of those jackasses that watch HGTV and feel that they need a water feature and basically it sounds like someone is taking a pee 24 hours a day outside. Freaking idiots.

[Alex_angel]

HOAs should specifically spell out what you can and cannot plant. If those palms or magnolias are not on the list then the HOA will force him to take them down.

This reminds me of those jackasses that watch HGTV and feel that they need a water feature and basically it sounds like someone is taking a pee 24 hours a day outside. Freaking idiots.

[Alex_angel]

By the way. You have been paying HOAs for what? This is the time to take advantage of having them. That is why people choose to live in an HOA area. Take advantage of the money that you have been paying every month and stop this fool in his tracks.

[Alex_angel]

By the way. You have been paying HOAs for what? This is the time to take advantage of having them. That is why people choose to live in an HOA area. Take advantage of the money that you have been paying every month and stop this fool in his tracks.

[NotCranky]

I have no clue what to tell you but I can tell you something at least as crazy….

My lot is 660’X 1350′ I built in the middle of it more or less to be far away from the property lines to enhance privacy. My neighbor’s lot is also roughly the same size and up hill from the rear deck of my house. His property actually continues to go up hill to a wonderful 360 degree view of mountains,evening lights,ocean(sort of) and canyons He is building 2 stories on the low side, 40 feet from the property line at the most, I mean absolutely the most and probably the only really suitable spot on his property for looking into my back yard! He also drastically reduces the desirability of the best spot on my property which also has a wonderful 360 degree view of mountains,evening lights,ocean(sort of) and canyons which is now only 150 feet from his house and soon to be a hog raising facility.We were saving it to sell after a lot split or to build a really grandiose house one day to sell. He had the gall to tell me, when I first approached him, that he was concerned that we might build in that spot and block a portion of his view! It’s a pig farm buddy. It isn’t a view! 10 feet setbacks for livestock no HOA.

[patientrenter]

flu, I am pretty hopeless at these things in practice. As is often the case, however, the most clueless are often the first to volunteer advice, so here goes…

How about setting up some discussion with you, your neighbor, and a landscaper, so the landscaper can discuss all the pros and cons of various plants and HOA rules as if they were just giving helpful advice to two good neighbors with no gardening or other issues between them? For example, tell your neighbor that it’s great that he’s making changes, because you just happen to be talking to a really smart and helpful landscaper about what works and doesn’t work on your own lot. Ask your neighbor if he wants to sit in when the landscaper comes over next. You like your neighbor so much (you tell him) that you can just set it up so you’ll all be there, and have a few drinks and talk plants.

Just make sure the landscaper is the right guy who says the right things!

Patient renter in OC

[FoamFinger1]

Is HOA french for chainsaw ? 🙂

[NotCranky]

LOOK MOM!!!! BITTER HOME OWNERS!!!!

[Alex_angel]

Rustico, do I sense sarcasm here?

[NotCranky]

Humor in a sarcastic vein. From where I am sitting, also a deeply philosophical statement about the meaning of life.

[justbought]

i must say, some people to abuse HOA. Everyone on my block received a letter from HOA, telling us to remove the picket sign of my landscaping company. One freaking person (obviously, one of the few without a sign) doesn’t like seeing the signs on the block and go tells the HOA. I know it’s in the HOA rules, but to be fair, my landscaper needs advertisement too.

[desmond]

In the long run your better off trying to get over it and not doing anything. Trees? you should be lucky that is all it is. Read the posts where peoples neighborhoods are falling apart, foreclosures, etc., you seem very petty.

[Coronita]

In the long run, ideally I hope my neighbor loses their house and it gets put on the block at $500k. I'll come in buy the damn thing , and drive a bulldozer right over the illegally planted palm trees and magnolia before I rent it out.

I believe Steve Jobs did that with his annoyed neighbor ,except he bulldozed his neighbor's entire house.

 

Petty, I'm not. Vindictive if you cross me, yes probably.

Besides, planting root damaging trees on a property line isn't really something you want to f around with. The only thing worse would be to plan bamboo, which is twice as destructive to foundations and concrete.

 

[patientlywaiting]

Man, you must not like those trees!! Hoping your neighbor loses his house over trees? That’s a little bit much.

The trees we have in SD are nothing. Back East, many neighborhoods are like woods.

[NotCranky]

FLU didn’t mean to make fun of your situation. My story was such a complete disaster that the best thing I can do is make fun of it. I am not talking about some goofball building on the property line. Things are infinitely better now, even with that.

You make a good point about the roots and although I don’t need to tell you,when you bought into an HOA you paid for the right to express concerns. I have heard that copper nails in the trunk or copper shavings spread about the drip line of the tree will do the trick.
Good luck
Going to get a life now. Adios

[PadreBrian]

Yep, take pictures, and mail it to the hoa. That’s why you pay the monthly dues.

The city tree also can’t be removed. It’s called a “tree lined street”, and the developer had to use an exact tree for that front tree. All landscaping changes have to go through the hoa. He didn’t because the hoa would have told him about the tree lined street provision by the city.

[Coronita]

Yep, take pictures, and mail it to the hoa. That's why you pay the monthly dues.

The city tree also can't be removed. It's called a "tree lined street", and the developer had to use an exact tree for that front tree. All landscaping changes have to go through the hoa. He didn't because the hoa would have told him about the tree lined street provision by the city.

 

Yup, he took out a city tree. I know that. And I know he didn't go through HOA. But, seems like they are willing to compromise, so unless he does something ridiculous, I'll file the extra pictures in my circular files in case I need it for the future.

[PadreBrian]

This is not the time to be lazy, btw. 😉

[PadreBrian]

This is not the time to be lazy, btw. 😉

[Coronita]

Yep, take pictures, and mail it to the hoa. That's why you pay the monthly dues.

The city tree also can't be removed. It's called a "tree lined street", and the developer had to use an exact tree for that front tree. All landscaping changes have to go through the hoa. He didn't because the hoa would have told him about the tree lined street provision by the city.

 

Yup, he took out a city tree. I know that. And I know he didn't go through HOA. But, seems like they are willing to compromise, so unless he does something ridiculous, I'll file the extra pictures in my circular files in case I need it for the future.

[PadreBrian]

Yep, take pictures, and mail it to the hoa. That’s why you pay the monthly dues.

The city tree also can’t be removed. It’s called a “tree lined street”, and the developer had to use an exact tree for that front tree. All landscaping changes have to go through the hoa. He didn’t because the hoa would have told him about the tree lined street provision by the city.

[Coronita]

FLU didn't mean to make fun of your situation. My story was such a complete disaster that the best thing I can do is make fun of it. I am not talking about some goofball building on the property line. Things are infinitely better now, even with that.

You make a good point about the roots and although I don't need to tell you,when you bought into an HOA you paid for the right to express concerns. I have heard that copper nails in the trunk or copper shavings spread about the drip line of the tree will do the trick.
Good luck
Going to get a life now. Adios

 

Rustico,

No problem. I know you were just kidding around. Looks at least I convinced the neighbor to plant the magnolia on the other side, if at all. They are seeing if they can return the magnolia to the landscaper. If not, it's going to the my neighbor's left neighbor problem. Also, the neighbor agreed to planting the smaller palm on my side so that it wouldn't block the my front.

[Coronita]

FLU didn't mean to make fun of your situation. My story was such a complete disaster that the best thing I can do is make fun of it. I am not talking about some goofball building on the property line. Things are infinitely better now, even with that.

You make a good point about the roots and although I don't need to tell you,when you bought into an HOA you paid for the right to express concerns. I have heard that copper nails in the trunk or copper shavings spread about the drip line of the tree will do the trick.
Good luck
Going to get a life now. Adios

 

Rustico,

No problem. I know you were just kidding around. Looks at least I convinced the neighbor to plant the magnolia on the other side, if at all. They are seeing if they can return the magnolia to the landscaper. If not, it's going to the my neighbor's left neighbor problem. Also, the neighbor agreed to planting the smaller palm on my side so that it wouldn't block the my front.

[NotCranky]

FLU didn’t mean to make fun of your situation. My story was such a complete disaster that the best thing I can do is make fun of it. I am not talking about some goofball building on the property line. Things are infinitely better now, even with that.

You make a good point about the roots and although I don’t need to tell you,when you bought into an HOA you paid for the right to express concerns. I have heard that copper nails in the trunk or copper shavings spread about the drip line of the tree will do the trick.
Good luck
Going to get a life now. Adios

[patientlywaiting]

Man, you must not like those trees!! Hoping your neighbor loses his house over trees? That’s a little bit much.

The trees we have in SD are nothing. Back East, many neighborhoods are like woods.

[Coronita]

In the long run, ideally I hope my neighbor loses their house and it gets put on the block at $500k. I'll come in buy the damn thing , and drive a bulldozer right over the illegally planted palm trees and magnolia before I rent it out.

I believe Steve Jobs did that with his annoyed neighbor ,except he bulldozed his neighbor's entire house.

 

Petty, I'm not. Vindictive if you cross me, yes probably.

Besides, planting root damaging trees on a property line isn't really something you want to f around with. The only thing worse would be to plan bamboo, which is twice as destructive to foundations and concrete.

 

[desmond]

In the long run your better off trying to get over it and not doing anything. Trees? you should be lucky that is all it is. Read the posts where peoples neighborhoods are falling apart, foreclosures, etc., you seem very petty.

[justbought]

i must say, some people to abuse HOA. Everyone on my block received a letter from HOA, telling us to remove the picket sign of my landscaping company. One freaking person (obviously, one of the few without a sign) doesn’t like seeing the signs on the block and go tells the HOA. I know it’s in the HOA rules, but to be fair, my landscaper needs advertisement too.

[NotCranky]

Humor in a sarcastic vein. From where I am sitting, also a deeply philosophical statement about the meaning of life.

[Alex_angel]

Rustico, do I sense sarcasm here?

[NotCranky]

LOOK MOM!!!! BITTER HOME OWNERS!!!!

[Coronita]

Is HOA french for chainsaw ? 🙂

 

Hum, I'm not sure about that, but chainsaw does give me ideas.  

[Coronita]

Is HOA french for chainsaw ? 🙂

 

Hum, I'm not sure about that, but chainsaw does give me ideas.  

[Coronita]

Is HOA french for chainsaw ? 🙂

 

Hum, I'm not sure about that, but chainsaw does give me ideas.  

[Coronita]

Is HOA french for chainsaw ? 🙂

 

Hum, I'm not sure about that, but chainsaw does give me ideas.  

[FoamFinger1]

Is HOA french for chainsaw ? 🙂

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