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January 31, 2008 at 7:06 AM #11678
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January 31, 2008 at 7:47 AM #145871
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBugs: More and more articles are appearing about price drops in supposedly “impervious” markets like SF and Manhattan. Even as little as six months ago, these two markets were being used to illustrate the principle that some markets would remain immune, unlike the Murrietas and Chula Vistas and Riversides.
A poster who is very knowledgeable about banking (I think it was Davelj) made the very astute observation that it is not about a liquidity crunch, it is about a bad asset crunch. This mess is not confined to just sub-prime, but is spreading into Alt-A and prime as well.
The prime locations might be the last to get hit, but they will get hit, too. And while a single listing does not a trend make, all trends start somewhere.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:47 AM #146116
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBugs: More and more articles are appearing about price drops in supposedly “impervious” markets like SF and Manhattan. Even as little as six months ago, these two markets were being used to illustrate the principle that some markets would remain immune, unlike the Murrietas and Chula Vistas and Riversides.
A poster who is very knowledgeable about banking (I think it was Davelj) made the very astute observation that it is not about a liquidity crunch, it is about a bad asset crunch. This mess is not confined to just sub-prime, but is spreading into Alt-A and prime as well.
The prime locations might be the last to get hit, but they will get hit, too. And while a single listing does not a trend make, all trends start somewhere.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:47 AM #146143
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBugs: More and more articles are appearing about price drops in supposedly “impervious” markets like SF and Manhattan. Even as little as six months ago, these two markets were being used to illustrate the principle that some markets would remain immune, unlike the Murrietas and Chula Vistas and Riversides.
A poster who is very knowledgeable about banking (I think it was Davelj) made the very astute observation that it is not about a liquidity crunch, it is about a bad asset crunch. This mess is not confined to just sub-prime, but is spreading into Alt-A and prime as well.
The prime locations might be the last to get hit, but they will get hit, too. And while a single listing does not a trend make, all trends start somewhere.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:47 AM #146154
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBugs: More and more articles are appearing about price drops in supposedly “impervious” markets like SF and Manhattan. Even as little as six months ago, these two markets were being used to illustrate the principle that some markets would remain immune, unlike the Murrietas and Chula Vistas and Riversides.
A poster who is very knowledgeable about banking (I think it was Davelj) made the very astute observation that it is not about a liquidity crunch, it is about a bad asset crunch. This mess is not confined to just sub-prime, but is spreading into Alt-A and prime as well.
The prime locations might be the last to get hit, but they will get hit, too. And while a single listing does not a trend make, all trends start somewhere.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:47 AM #146215
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantBugs: More and more articles are appearing about price drops in supposedly “impervious” markets like SF and Manhattan. Even as little as six months ago, these two markets were being used to illustrate the principle that some markets would remain immune, unlike the Murrietas and Chula Vistas and Riversides.
A poster who is very knowledgeable about banking (I think it was Davelj) made the very astute observation that it is not about a liquidity crunch, it is about a bad asset crunch. This mess is not confined to just sub-prime, but is spreading into Alt-A and prime as well.
The prime locations might be the last to get hit, but they will get hit, too. And while a single listing does not a trend make, all trends start somewhere.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:49 AM #145886
blahblahblah
ParticipantThere are only so many wealthy people, so many foreign buyers, so many $300K+ households, etc… Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.
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January 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #145914
Ex-SD
ParticipantOther than the “ultra-high end” of the housing market, NO ONE will be immune from the bubble bursting. Anyone who thinks that just because they’re in the better parts of north county, they won’t be affected, is going to get a strong dose of reality over the next 4-plus years. If they don’t have to sell and can stay employed and afford the home that they bought (and it doesn’t have three mortgages and a heloc) will be just fine over the very long haul (10-plus years). Those who must sell are going to be in for a world of hurt.
Nobody knows just how low prices will go before they settle on the bottom or exactly how long they will sit on the bottom but how many people are going to be eager to mortgage themselves to the hilt for that big, expensive McMansion after watching this current mess unravel?-
January 31, 2008 at 8:28 AM #145931
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantEx-SD: Certain homebuilders are already making the move to smaller homes. Those monolithic 4,000sf monsters will probably go the way of the dodo. Too expensive to maintain for one thing. Can you imagine cooling a 4,000sf home through a Temecula summer?
I think even the ultra-high end will feel something of a pinch as well. There are homes fronting the SF Bay that are knocking fairly significant chunks off of their asking price. The house Burt Reynolds owns in Florida was just reduced in price by a large amount as well.
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January 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM #146067
Rockemsock
ParticipantWow, it’s about time. I still remember moving to San Diego in 2001 and renting on the beach in Encinitas. I had never owned a home but was starting to look and I thought “if only i could find that fixer in a good part of town”…early in 2002 I crossed the railroad tracks in Encinitas and started looking behind Scripps Hospital. I found a place that looked like it was out of a Troma Horror movie. No yard, just dirt, original 1954 paint job on a box that was barely standing. I grab the flyer, and read that it’s going for 700k. I was astonished. Obviously I have come to realize that I was totally in the dark regarding property values. Would be great to see those come down a bit…although i doubt that area will ever be down in my price range.
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January 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM #146082
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantHey Bugs,
Is the property on Puebla? If it is the owners are/were my neighbors and I know some of the back story. I also know the builder/architech (tough not well)
Just curious
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January 31, 2008 at 3:25 PM #146177
Bugs
ParticipantLike I said, I’m not at liberty to get into detail on this one, but no, I’m not talking about the property on Puebla.
If you want to post it up we can take a look at it, though.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM #146192
Aecetia
ParticipantI believe Puebla is considered Leucadia, at least by the locals and there used to be gang activity there in the 80’s.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM #146436
Aecetia
ParticipantI believe Puebla is considered Leucadia, at least by the locals and there used to be gang activity there in the 80’s.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM #146463
Aecetia
ParticipantI believe Puebla is considered Leucadia, at least by the locals and there used to be gang activity there in the 80’s.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM #146475
Aecetia
ParticipantI believe Puebla is considered Leucadia, at least by the locals and there used to be gang activity there in the 80’s.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM #146535
Aecetia
ParticipantI believe Puebla is considered Leucadia, at least by the locals and there used to be gang activity there in the 80’s.
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January 31, 2008 at 4:53 PM #146257
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantSorry Bug, I did not notice your disclaimer. This is house I was referring to in my neighborhood
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69016779
I think the asking price was 2.1M a month ago, have not checked recently.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:21 PM #146772
nostradamus
ParticipantHere’s a house with an acre lot west of I-5 in Encinitas for $819k. Nice ocean view. Looks like a flipper bought it in Nov. for $729k and is trying to turn a quick profit. Before that some poor schmuck bought it for $1.1M.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM #146813
Duck
ParticipantThat one on Eolus has easy access to the freeway. It’s about 50 yards away.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM #146842
Bugs
ParticipantI happened to drive by that one the other day. I thought it was gutted. It has a “bank owned” sign out in front of it.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:51 PM #146847
amy
ParticipantMadeinTaiwan – I have been keeping my eye on Puebla (along with about 10 other homes) and was wondering what the deal was with it. What do you know? The pictures are beautiful, and the location in Leucadia is decent, although a bit close to the 5.
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February 2, 2008 at 12:52 AM #146942
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantBugs,
Stop posting about Encinitas being so affordable. I am sure you will all love Bonita much better anyway. That why it is called beautiful. And yes to the earlier post, Encinitas is full of gangs and pedophiles. Just check meganslaw.com and you will see.
P.S. Bugs, good business people don’t show their cards before the deal is done. I hope your partner does not know you post all your potential deals on public blogs. -
February 2, 2008 at 12:52 AM #147188
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantBugs,
Stop posting about Encinitas being so affordable. I am sure you will all love Bonita much better anyway. That why it is called beautiful. And yes to the earlier post, Encinitas is full of gangs and pedophiles. Just check meganslaw.com and you will see.
P.S. Bugs, good business people don’t show their cards before the deal is done. I hope your partner does not know you post all your potential deals on public blogs. -
February 2, 2008 at 12:52 AM #147212
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantBugs,
Stop posting about Encinitas being so affordable. I am sure you will all love Bonita much better anyway. That why it is called beautiful. And yes to the earlier post, Encinitas is full of gangs and pedophiles. Just check meganslaw.com and you will see.
P.S. Bugs, good business people don’t show their cards before the deal is done. I hope your partner does not know you post all your potential deals on public blogs. -
February 2, 2008 at 12:52 AM #147222
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantBugs,
Stop posting about Encinitas being so affordable. I am sure you will all love Bonita much better anyway. That why it is called beautiful. And yes to the earlier post, Encinitas is full of gangs and pedophiles. Just check meganslaw.com and you will see.
P.S. Bugs, good business people don’t show their cards before the deal is done. I hope your partner does not know you post all your potential deals on public blogs. -
February 2, 2008 at 12:52 AM #147287
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantBugs,
Stop posting about Encinitas being so affordable. I am sure you will all love Bonita much better anyway. That why it is called beautiful. And yes to the earlier post, Encinitas is full of gangs and pedophiles. Just check meganslaw.com and you will see.
P.S. Bugs, good business people don’t show their cards before the deal is done. I hope your partner does not know you post all your potential deals on public blogs. -
February 1, 2008 at 6:51 PM #147091
amy
ParticipantMadeinTaiwan – I have been keeping my eye on Puebla (along with about 10 other homes) and was wondering what the deal was with it. What do you know? The pictures are beautiful, and the location in Leucadia is decent, although a bit close to the 5.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:51 PM #147118
amy
ParticipantMadeinTaiwan – I have been keeping my eye on Puebla (along with about 10 other homes) and was wondering what the deal was with it. What do you know? The pictures are beautiful, and the location in Leucadia is decent, although a bit close to the 5.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:51 PM #147129
amy
ParticipantMadeinTaiwan – I have been keeping my eye on Puebla (along with about 10 other homes) and was wondering what the deal was with it. What do you know? The pictures are beautiful, and the location in Leucadia is decent, although a bit close to the 5.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:51 PM #147190
amy
ParticipantMadeinTaiwan – I have been keeping my eye on Puebla (along with about 10 other homes) and was wondering what the deal was with it. What do you know? The pictures are beautiful, and the location in Leucadia is decent, although a bit close to the 5.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM #147086
Bugs
ParticipantI happened to drive by that one the other day. I thought it was gutted. It has a “bank owned” sign out in front of it.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM #147113
Bugs
ParticipantI happened to drive by that one the other day. I thought it was gutted. It has a “bank owned” sign out in front of it.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM #147124
Bugs
ParticipantI happened to drive by that one the other day. I thought it was gutted. It has a “bank owned” sign out in front of it.
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February 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM #147185
Bugs
ParticipantI happened to drive by that one the other day. I thought it was gutted. It has a “bank owned” sign out in front of it.
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February 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM #146947
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantDuck,
If the one on Eolus is that old 1920’s number, it is a dump. I did a walk though on that. The guy who owned it was totally leveraged and he was trying to dump it not long after he bought it. It is a full teardown, even though the owner tried to improve it, but it was full weekend warrior stuff. Also, the way the hill slopes up to the house, it sounds like the freeway is actually going though the kitchen, but in early 05 it seemed like Hearst castle to me. I think it was listed for like 1.4 or something at the time. Big property though and you can do another unit on it, but would have to do major sewer stuff, but the rumor was that the city was going to run a sewer line on Orpheus so you could connect. As you know, it is almost all septic up there or leech fields. -
February 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM #146972
Bugs
ParticipantMP,
You do know that I’m an appraiser, right? The reason I can’t comment on specifics is because it would be unethical for me to do so.
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February 2, 2008 at 8:11 AM #147007
SD Realtor
ParticipantBugs at first I thought the property was Phoebe but it didn’t fit your comments exactly. Is the property active or is it pending?
If you don’t want to give further hints I understand.
SD Realtor
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February 2, 2008 at 8:11 AM #147254
SD Realtor
ParticipantBugs at first I thought the property was Phoebe but it didn’t fit your comments exactly. Is the property active or is it pending?
If you don’t want to give further hints I understand.
SD Realtor
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February 2, 2008 at 8:11 AM #147276
SD Realtor
ParticipantBugs at first I thought the property was Phoebe but it didn’t fit your comments exactly. Is the property active or is it pending?
If you don’t want to give further hints I understand.
SD Realtor
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February 2, 2008 at 8:11 AM #147285
SD Realtor
ParticipantBugs at first I thought the property was Phoebe but it didn’t fit your comments exactly. Is the property active or is it pending?
If you don’t want to give further hints I understand.
SD Realtor
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February 2, 2008 at 8:11 AM #147354
SD Realtor
ParticipantBugs at first I thought the property was Phoebe but it didn’t fit your comments exactly. Is the property active or is it pending?
If you don’t want to give further hints I understand.
SD Realtor
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February 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM #147219
Bugs
ParticipantMP,
You do know that I’m an appraiser, right? The reason I can’t comment on specifics is because it would be unethical for me to do so.
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February 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM #147242
Bugs
ParticipantMP,
You do know that I’m an appraiser, right? The reason I can’t comment on specifics is because it would be unethical for me to do so.
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February 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM #147251
Bugs
ParticipantMP,
You do know that I’m an appraiser, right? The reason I can’t comment on specifics is because it would be unethical for me to do so.
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February 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM #147318
Bugs
ParticipantMP,
You do know that I’m an appraiser, right? The reason I can’t comment on specifics is because it would be unethical for me to do so.
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February 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM #147283
Duck
ParticipantI think the Eolus one was a flipper who thought adding granite, new cabinets and tile floors increased the value by $300,000. When people talk about certain homes selling for 30% or 50% less than 3 years ago it’s usually because some idiot payed 50% too much 3 years ago. This is especially true where the homes are not in a newer tract and comps are more difficult to match.
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February 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM #147528
Duck
ParticipantI think the Eolus one was a flipper who thought adding granite, new cabinets and tile floors increased the value by $300,000. When people talk about certain homes selling for 30% or 50% less than 3 years ago it’s usually because some idiot payed 50% too much 3 years ago. This is especially true where the homes are not in a newer tract and comps are more difficult to match.
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February 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM #147552
Duck
ParticipantI think the Eolus one was a flipper who thought adding granite, new cabinets and tile floors increased the value by $300,000. When people talk about certain homes selling for 30% or 50% less than 3 years ago it’s usually because some idiot payed 50% too much 3 years ago. This is especially true where the homes are not in a newer tract and comps are more difficult to match.
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February 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM #147561
Duck
ParticipantI think the Eolus one was a flipper who thought adding granite, new cabinets and tile floors increased the value by $300,000. When people talk about certain homes selling for 30% or 50% less than 3 years ago it’s usually because some idiot payed 50% too much 3 years ago. This is especially true where the homes are not in a newer tract and comps are more difficult to match.
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February 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM #147630
Duck
ParticipantI think the Eolus one was a flipper who thought adding granite, new cabinets and tile floors increased the value by $300,000. When people talk about certain homes selling for 30% or 50% less than 3 years ago it’s usually because some idiot payed 50% too much 3 years ago. This is especially true where the homes are not in a newer tract and comps are more difficult to match.
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February 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM #147194
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantDuck,
If the one on Eolus is that old 1920’s number, it is a dump. I did a walk though on that. The guy who owned it was totally leveraged and he was trying to dump it not long after he bought it. It is a full teardown, even though the owner tried to improve it, but it was full weekend warrior stuff. Also, the way the hill slopes up to the house, it sounds like the freeway is actually going though the kitchen, but in early 05 it seemed like Hearst castle to me. I think it was listed for like 1.4 or something at the time. Big property though and you can do another unit on it, but would have to do major sewer stuff, but the rumor was that the city was going to run a sewer line on Orpheus so you could connect. As you know, it is almost all septic up there or leech fields. -
February 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM #147217
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantDuck,
If the one on Eolus is that old 1920’s number, it is a dump. I did a walk though on that. The guy who owned it was totally leveraged and he was trying to dump it not long after he bought it. It is a full teardown, even though the owner tried to improve it, but it was full weekend warrior stuff. Also, the way the hill slopes up to the house, it sounds like the freeway is actually going though the kitchen, but in early 05 it seemed like Hearst castle to me. I think it was listed for like 1.4 or something at the time. Big property though and you can do another unit on it, but would have to do major sewer stuff, but the rumor was that the city was going to run a sewer line on Orpheus so you could connect. As you know, it is almost all septic up there or leech fields. -
February 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM #147226
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantDuck,
If the one on Eolus is that old 1920’s number, it is a dump. I did a walk though on that. The guy who owned it was totally leveraged and he was trying to dump it not long after he bought it. It is a full teardown, even though the owner tried to improve it, but it was full weekend warrior stuff. Also, the way the hill slopes up to the house, it sounds like the freeway is actually going though the kitchen, but in early 05 it seemed like Hearst castle to me. I think it was listed for like 1.4 or something at the time. Big property though and you can do another unit on it, but would have to do major sewer stuff, but the rumor was that the city was going to run a sewer line on Orpheus so you could connect. As you know, it is almost all septic up there or leech fields. -
February 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM #147291
Multiplepropertyowner
ParticipantDuck,
If the one on Eolus is that old 1920’s number, it is a dump. I did a walk though on that. The guy who owned it was totally leveraged and he was trying to dump it not long after he bought it. It is a full teardown, even though the owner tried to improve it, but it was full weekend warrior stuff. Also, the way the hill slopes up to the house, it sounds like the freeway is actually going though the kitchen, but in early 05 it seemed like Hearst castle to me. I think it was listed for like 1.4 or something at the time. Big property though and you can do another unit on it, but would have to do major sewer stuff, but the rumor was that the city was going to run a sewer line on Orpheus so you could connect. As you know, it is almost all septic up there or leech fields. -
February 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM #147056
Duck
ParticipantThat one on Eolus has easy access to the freeway. It’s about 50 yards away.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM #147083
Duck
ParticipantThat one on Eolus has easy access to the freeway. It’s about 50 yards away.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM #147094
Duck
ParticipantThat one on Eolus has easy access to the freeway. It’s about 50 yards away.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM #147155
Duck
ParticipantThat one on Eolus has easy access to the freeway. It’s about 50 yards away.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:21 PM #147016
nostradamus
ParticipantHere’s a house with an acre lot west of I-5 in Encinitas for $819k. Nice ocean view. Looks like a flipper bought it in Nov. for $729k and is trying to turn a quick profit. Before that some poor schmuck bought it for $1.1M.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:21 PM #147042
nostradamus
ParticipantHere’s a house with an acre lot west of I-5 in Encinitas for $819k. Nice ocean view. Looks like a flipper bought it in Nov. for $729k and is trying to turn a quick profit. Before that some poor schmuck bought it for $1.1M.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:21 PM #147054
nostradamus
ParticipantHere’s a house with an acre lot west of I-5 in Encinitas for $819k. Nice ocean view. Looks like a flipper bought it in Nov. for $729k and is trying to turn a quick profit. Before that some poor schmuck bought it for $1.1M.
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February 1, 2008 at 4:21 PM #147115
nostradamus
ParticipantHere’s a house with an acre lot west of I-5 in Encinitas for $819k. Nice ocean view. Looks like a flipper bought it in Nov. for $729k and is trying to turn a quick profit. Before that some poor schmuck bought it for $1.1M.
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January 31, 2008 at 4:53 PM #146501
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantSorry Bug, I did not notice your disclaimer. This is house I was referring to in my neighborhood
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69016779
I think the asking price was 2.1M a month ago, have not checked recently.
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January 31, 2008 at 4:53 PM #146528
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantSorry Bug, I did not notice your disclaimer. This is house I was referring to in my neighborhood
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69016779
I think the asking price was 2.1M a month ago, have not checked recently.
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January 31, 2008 at 4:53 PM #146540
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantSorry Bug, I did not notice your disclaimer. This is house I was referring to in my neighborhood
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69016779
I think the asking price was 2.1M a month ago, have not checked recently.
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January 31, 2008 at 4:53 PM #146600
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantSorry Bug, I did not notice your disclaimer. This is house I was referring to in my neighborhood
http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69016779
I think the asking price was 2.1M a month ago, have not checked recently.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:25 PM #146421
Bugs
ParticipantLike I said, I’m not at liberty to get into detail on this one, but no, I’m not talking about the property on Puebla.
If you want to post it up we can take a look at it, though.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:25 PM #146448
Bugs
ParticipantLike I said, I’m not at liberty to get into detail on this one, but no, I’m not talking about the property on Puebla.
If you want to post it up we can take a look at it, though.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:25 PM #146460
Bugs
ParticipantLike I said, I’m not at liberty to get into detail on this one, but no, I’m not talking about the property on Puebla.
If you want to post it up we can take a look at it, though.
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January 31, 2008 at 3:25 PM #146520
Bugs
ParticipantLike I said, I’m not at liberty to get into detail on this one, but no, I’m not talking about the property on Puebla.
If you want to post it up we can take a look at it, though.
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January 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM #146326
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantHey Bugs,
Is the property on Puebla? If it is the owners are/were my neighbors and I know some of the back story. I also know the builder/architech (tough not well)
Just curious
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January 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM #146353
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantHey Bugs,
Is the property on Puebla? If it is the owners are/were my neighbors and I know some of the back story. I also know the builder/architech (tough not well)
Just curious
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January 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM #146364
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantHey Bugs,
Is the property on Puebla? If it is the owners are/were my neighbors and I know some of the back story. I also know the builder/architech (tough not well)
Just curious
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January 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM #146425
MadeInTaiwan
ParticipantHey Bugs,
Is the property on Puebla? If it is the owners are/were my neighbors and I know some of the back story. I also know the builder/architech (tough not well)
Just curious
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January 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM #146309
Rockemsock
ParticipantWow, it’s about time. I still remember moving to San Diego in 2001 and renting on the beach in Encinitas. I had never owned a home but was starting to look and I thought “if only i could find that fixer in a good part of town”…early in 2002 I crossed the railroad tracks in Encinitas and started looking behind Scripps Hospital. I found a place that looked like it was out of a Troma Horror movie. No yard, just dirt, original 1954 paint job on a box that was barely standing. I grab the flyer, and read that it’s going for 700k. I was astonished. Obviously I have come to realize that I was totally in the dark regarding property values. Would be great to see those come down a bit…although i doubt that area will ever be down in my price range.
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January 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM #146338
Rockemsock
ParticipantWow, it’s about time. I still remember moving to San Diego in 2001 and renting on the beach in Encinitas. I had never owned a home but was starting to look and I thought “if only i could find that fixer in a good part of town”…early in 2002 I crossed the railroad tracks in Encinitas and started looking behind Scripps Hospital. I found a place that looked like it was out of a Troma Horror movie. No yard, just dirt, original 1954 paint job on a box that was barely standing. I grab the flyer, and read that it’s going for 700k. I was astonished. Obviously I have come to realize that I was totally in the dark regarding property values. Would be great to see those come down a bit…although i doubt that area will ever be down in my price range.
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January 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM #146349
Rockemsock
ParticipantWow, it’s about time. I still remember moving to San Diego in 2001 and renting on the beach in Encinitas. I had never owned a home but was starting to look and I thought “if only i could find that fixer in a good part of town”…early in 2002 I crossed the railroad tracks in Encinitas and started looking behind Scripps Hospital. I found a place that looked like it was out of a Troma Horror movie. No yard, just dirt, original 1954 paint job on a box that was barely standing. I grab the flyer, and read that it’s going for 700k. I was astonished. Obviously I have come to realize that I was totally in the dark regarding property values. Would be great to see those come down a bit…although i doubt that area will ever be down in my price range.
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January 31, 2008 at 10:39 AM #146410
Rockemsock
ParticipantWow, it’s about time. I still remember moving to San Diego in 2001 and renting on the beach in Encinitas. I had never owned a home but was starting to look and I thought “if only i could find that fixer in a good part of town”…early in 2002 I crossed the railroad tracks in Encinitas and started looking behind Scripps Hospital. I found a place that looked like it was out of a Troma Horror movie. No yard, just dirt, original 1954 paint job on a box that was barely standing. I grab the flyer, and read that it’s going for 700k. I was astonished. Obviously I have come to realize that I was totally in the dark regarding property values. Would be great to see those come down a bit…although i doubt that area will ever be down in my price range.
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January 31, 2008 at 8:28 AM #146176
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantEx-SD: Certain homebuilders are already making the move to smaller homes. Those monolithic 4,000sf monsters will probably go the way of the dodo. Too expensive to maintain for one thing. Can you imagine cooling a 4,000sf home through a Temecula summer?
I think even the ultra-high end will feel something of a pinch as well. There are homes fronting the SF Bay that are knocking fairly significant chunks off of their asking price. The house Burt Reynolds owns in Florida was just reduced in price by a large amount as well.
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January 31, 2008 at 8:28 AM #146203
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantEx-SD: Certain homebuilders are already making the move to smaller homes. Those monolithic 4,000sf monsters will probably go the way of the dodo. Too expensive to maintain for one thing. Can you imagine cooling a 4,000sf home through a Temecula summer?
I think even the ultra-high end will feel something of a pinch as well. There are homes fronting the SF Bay that are knocking fairly significant chunks off of their asking price. The house Burt Reynolds owns in Florida was just reduced in price by a large amount as well.
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January 31, 2008 at 8:28 AM #146214
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantEx-SD: Certain homebuilders are already making the move to smaller homes. Those monolithic 4,000sf monsters will probably go the way of the dodo. Too expensive to maintain for one thing. Can you imagine cooling a 4,000sf home through a Temecula summer?
I think even the ultra-high end will feel something of a pinch as well. There are homes fronting the SF Bay that are knocking fairly significant chunks off of their asking price. The house Burt Reynolds owns in Florida was just reduced in price by a large amount as well.
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January 31, 2008 at 8:28 AM #146275
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantEx-SD: Certain homebuilders are already making the move to smaller homes. Those monolithic 4,000sf monsters will probably go the way of the dodo. Too expensive to maintain for one thing. Can you imagine cooling a 4,000sf home through a Temecula summer?
I think even the ultra-high end will feel something of a pinch as well. There are homes fronting the SF Bay that are knocking fairly significant chunks off of their asking price. The house Burt Reynolds owns in Florida was just reduced in price by a large amount as well.
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January 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #146161
Ex-SD
ParticipantOther than the “ultra-high end” of the housing market, NO ONE will be immune from the bubble bursting. Anyone who thinks that just because they’re in the better parts of north county, they won’t be affected, is going to get a strong dose of reality over the next 4-plus years. If they don’t have to sell and can stay employed and afford the home that they bought (and it doesn’t have three mortgages and a heloc) will be just fine over the very long haul (10-plus years). Those who must sell are going to be in for a world of hurt.
Nobody knows just how low prices will go before they settle on the bottom or exactly how long they will sit on the bottom but how many people are going to be eager to mortgage themselves to the hilt for that big, expensive McMansion after watching this current mess unravel? -
January 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #146188
Ex-SD
ParticipantOther than the “ultra-high end” of the housing market, NO ONE will be immune from the bubble bursting. Anyone who thinks that just because they’re in the better parts of north county, they won’t be affected, is going to get a strong dose of reality over the next 4-plus years. If they don’t have to sell and can stay employed and afford the home that they bought (and it doesn’t have three mortgages and a heloc) will be just fine over the very long haul (10-plus years). Those who must sell are going to be in for a world of hurt.
Nobody knows just how low prices will go before they settle on the bottom or exactly how long they will sit on the bottom but how many people are going to be eager to mortgage themselves to the hilt for that big, expensive McMansion after watching this current mess unravel? -
January 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #146199
Ex-SD
ParticipantOther than the “ultra-high end” of the housing market, NO ONE will be immune from the bubble bursting. Anyone who thinks that just because they’re in the better parts of north county, they won’t be affected, is going to get a strong dose of reality over the next 4-plus years. If they don’t have to sell and can stay employed and afford the home that they bought (and it doesn’t have three mortgages and a heloc) will be just fine over the very long haul (10-plus years). Those who must sell are going to be in for a world of hurt.
Nobody knows just how low prices will go before they settle on the bottom or exactly how long they will sit on the bottom but how many people are going to be eager to mortgage themselves to the hilt for that big, expensive McMansion after watching this current mess unravel? -
January 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #146259
Ex-SD
ParticipantOther than the “ultra-high end” of the housing market, NO ONE will be immune from the bubble bursting. Anyone who thinks that just because they’re in the better parts of north county, they won’t be affected, is going to get a strong dose of reality over the next 4-plus years. If they don’t have to sell and can stay employed and afford the home that they bought (and it doesn’t have three mortgages and a heloc) will be just fine over the very long haul (10-plus years). Those who must sell are going to be in for a world of hurt.
Nobody knows just how low prices will go before they settle on the bottom or exactly how long they will sit on the bottom but how many people are going to be eager to mortgage themselves to the hilt for that big, expensive McMansion after watching this current mess unravel? -
January 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM #146002
pemeliza
Participant“Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.”
I love this line.
Sums it up to a freakin T.
I was scanning the Point Loma Inventory today.
The last line of a MLS supplement gave me a chuckle.… or taking in some fresh air while BBQing in your child-safe fenced backyard. “Come live the fairytale.”
Freudian slip?
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January 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM #146246
pemeliza
Participant“Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.”
I love this line.
Sums it up to a freakin T.
I was scanning the Point Loma Inventory today.
The last line of a MLS supplement gave me a chuckle.… or taking in some fresh air while BBQing in your child-safe fenced backyard. “Come live the fairytale.”
Freudian slip?
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January 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM #146273
pemeliza
Participant“Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.”
I love this line.
Sums it up to a freakin T.
I was scanning the Point Loma Inventory today.
The last line of a MLS supplement gave me a chuckle.… or taking in some fresh air while BBQing in your child-safe fenced backyard. “Come live the fairytale.”
Freudian slip?
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January 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM #146285
pemeliza
Participant“Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.”
I love this line.
Sums it up to a freakin T.
I was scanning the Point Loma Inventory today.
The last line of a MLS supplement gave me a chuckle.… or taking in some fresh air while BBQing in your child-safe fenced backyard. “Come live the fairytale.”
Freudian slip?
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January 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM #146344
pemeliza
Participant“Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.”
I love this line.
Sums it up to a freakin T.
I was scanning the Point Loma Inventory today.
The last line of a MLS supplement gave me a chuckle.… or taking in some fresh air while BBQing in your child-safe fenced backyard. “Come live the fairytale.”
Freudian slip?
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January 31, 2008 at 7:49 AM #146131
blahblahblah
ParticipantThere are only so many wealthy people, so many foreign buyers, so many $300K+ households, etc… Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:49 AM #146158
blahblahblah
ParticipantThere are only so many wealthy people, so many foreign buyers, so many $300K+ households, etc… Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:49 AM #146169
blahblahblah
ParticipantThere are only so many wealthy people, so many foreign buyers, so many $300K+ households, etc… Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.
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January 31, 2008 at 7:49 AM #146230
blahblahblah
ParticipantThere are only so many wealthy people, so many foreign buyers, so many $300K+ households, etc… Sooner or later the supply is bound to outstrip them in number, and sellers will have to deal with us ordinary schlubs if they want to sell their houses at all.
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