4S/Black Mtn Ranch Weather

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Submitted by gocard on May 8, 2018 - 1:16pm

Hi All, new to this forum and will hopefully be new to SD later this year. I've been searching for information on various neighborhoods and have narrowed it down to the Carmel Valley, 4S/Black Mtn Ranch areas. I think I prefer the latter, though I'm still not entirely sure if 4S and Black Mtn Ranch describe the same area or contiguous neighborhoods. (It's also news to me that the city of San Diego is so huge as to include so many of these various neighborhoods within the city limits proper, but whatever...). Specifically I've been looking at this CalAtlantic development at the base of Black Mountain, just off Carmel Valley Rd. Is there really a big difference in weather/temps going from PHR to here? It seemed only like a 5-10 min drive but others on the forum describe something like an 8 degree temperature rise between the two! Not going to make or break anything, but I get cranky when it's hot. Would appreciate any feedback from residents, and thoughts on these areas in general (I've read past threads, but they're generally 5-10 years old now) and this development specifically. Thanks in advance!

Submitted by cvmom on May 8, 2018 - 1:30pm.

My impression is that there is a big temp differential. Just checked weather.gov and right now 92130 is 64 degrees, 92127 is 70 degrees.

Submitted by flyer on May 8, 2018 - 6:31pm.

We've lived on the coast, in CV--and now, in RSF--which is not far from 4S/Black Mtn Ranch.

Temps do rise the further east you go, but we enjoy having more sunny days than we did when we lived on the coast or in CV--for a difference of about 5 degrees--especially since we can still be at the coast/beach in about 10 minutes, so it's all a matter of preference.

I don't commute on a daily basis, but if you do, you might also want to factor that aspect into the equation.

Submitted by gocard on May 8, 2018 - 9:54pm.

Thanks for the comments! Maybe what’s painful in the summer can be nice in the spring.

Submitted by zk on May 9, 2018 - 8:44am.

You could probably find dozens of pages like this

http://coastalsandiego.com/about-san-die...

but most of them have the climate divided into "zones."

The reality is that (with some exceptions due to local topography) for every mile you go inland (especially for the first 15 miles or so), you'll have higher summer temperatures and less cloudy days. Although I think the change in temperature is more pronounced than the change in the number of cloudy days.

There are lots of days when it's sunny everywhere and the temperature is 69 in Del Mar and 82 in Scripps Ranch. And lots of days the marine-layer clouds go all the way to the mountains. (On those days the temperature difference is much less pronounced.) There are some days when the marine layer only goes to, say, Del Mar or to Carmel Valley or to RSF or to Penasquitos or to Scripps Ranch. It's those days that account for having more sunny days the farther inland you go. But usually the marine layer is pretty thin on those days, and frequently on those types of days it burns off by the afternoon.

As I mentioned in those other threads you probably read, I've found that Carmel Valley is actually a bit cool for my taste in the summer. 72 every day sounds great. And it is compared to a lot of places. But that means that, even in the summer, it's in the 60's for some of the day with a bit of a breeze. If you're in the sun, it's definitely warm enough. In the shade, it's a bit chilly.

It's great inside, though. You almost never have to use your a/c. (Or your furnace, for that matter.) You might want a/c during the occasional monsoon moisture times in August (when the cooling effect of the ocean is greatly reduced), and maybe during the hotter Santa Anas. But very rarely.

So obviously it comes down to what you like. The beauty is that you can find it just by moving a bit closer to or farther from the coast.

I don't know where you're moving from, but if it's anywhere where it's humid in the summer, one great thing you'll find about San Diego is the sleeping weather. At least 350 days a year the sleeping weather is fantastic. The flip side of that is that you'll need a jacket outside most nights.

Submitted by njtosd on May 9, 2018 - 8:25pm.

You probably already know this, but factor in the Mello Roos taxes (which are significant in 4S and are generally not considered to be tax deductible - I think) and the Poway bond issue, which does not take effect for about 15 years but will probably affect resale starting in about 10.

Submitted by flu on May 10, 2018 - 7:33am.

njtosd wrote:
You probably already know this, but factor in the Mello Roos taxes (which are significant in 4S and are generally not considered to be tax deductible - I think) and the Poway bond issue, which does not take effect for about 15 years but will probably affect resale starting in about 10.

property tax deductiblity is a moot point since you would be limited way before that with the $10k cap on both state income and property tax for primary homes.

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