San Diego Housing Bubble News and Analysis

Um... I can see myself blamed by software geeks for "stealing our jobs". It sort is already happening.

Ain't gonna be any immigration reform/amnesty until this is over.

Letting in more immigrants had two key sources of support:

1. Democratic politicians who want more voters likely to end up voting democrat, and the groups that would benefit from more of the Democratic flavor of govt spending.

2. Business owners who employ low-skilled people and who want the cheapest labor (as long as they don't have to pay for the services used by those laborers) and the Republican pols that live off those business owners.

The second source is gone for now, because there is no shortage of cheap labor in a recession. You need both sources to get legislation passed.

Flu, I know illegal immigrants. I have friends who are illegal immigrants. Flu, you're no illegal immigrant.

When times are tough people who "look" American will believe that the "foreigners" are stealing their jobs. Either that or the "foreigners" are milking the social system and "ripping-off" American taxpayers.

It's always been that way and this time won't be any different.

Yeah, but I can see the: "We're losing our jobs to outsourcing to Asian and India" blame game to something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Chin

And let's not forget who was the president that signed Executive Order 9066.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Am...

"Non-military advocates for exclusion, removal, and detention

Internment was popular among many white farmers who resented the Japanese American farmers. "White American farmers admitted that their self-interest required removal of the Japanese."[15] These individuals saw internment as a convenient means of uprooting their Japanese American competitors. Explained one farmer on behalf of the Grower-Shipper Vegetable Association in the Saturday Evening Post:"

"It's a question of whether the white man lives on the Pacific Coast or the brown man. They came into this valley to work, and they stayed to take over."[15]

"We're charged with wanting to get rid of the Japs for selfish reasons. We do. It's a question of whether the white man lives on the Pacific Coast or the brown men… If all the Japs were removed tomorrow, we had never miss them in two weeks, because the white farmers can take over and produce everything the Jap grows. And we do not want them back when the war ends, either."

"Fear, combined with prejudice, was also at work, aided by the January release of the Roberts Commission Report, prepared at President Franklin D. Roosevelt's request."[15] "That report concluded that Japanese in America were responsible for espionage, contributing to the Pearl Harbor tragedy."[15] Columnist Henry McLemore reflected growing public sentiment fueled by this report:

I am for the immediate removal of every Japanese on the West Coast to a point deep in the interior. I don't mean a nice part of the interior either. Herd "em up, pack "em off and give "em the inside room in the badlands. Personally, I hate the Japanese. And that goes for all of them"

"A viper is nonetheless a viper whenever the egg is hatched - so a Japanese American, born of Japanese parents - grows up to be a Japanese, not an American."

State politicians joined the bandwagon embraced by Leland Ford of Los Angeles, who demanded that "all Japanese, whether citizens or not, be placed in [inland] concentration camps."[15]. In fact internment was likely responsible for a massive influx in immigration from Mexico.[citation needed] Significant labor was necessary to take over the Japanese Americans' farms at a time when many American laborers were also being inducted into the Armed Forces. Thousands of Nikkei, temporarily released from the internment camps to harvest Western beet crops, were credited with saving this industry.

Thank you President Roosevelt. While most of reveled over your "New Deal", you did fvck over a set of people that no one ever really apologized for until
1980 (Reagan).
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I guess the only redeeming factor now, is that with SoCal a melting pot, who really is considered the minority?

All we need now to complete this eeriely similar picture is a war with China. I would be willing to bet 95% certain that such a conflict in this economic climate would have the public clammering to find an excuse to get rid of all those "educated asians who are stealing our wealth". Come on, some of you that even post indirectly admitted. You hate china, you hate the outsourcing, and some of you have a disdain for some folks that attained education in a lot of these top tier schools and profession. I can say with certainty that some (not all) of you would be the same folks cheering for the export. (Not all, some)....

....Except...if it ever came to that, you'd see my entire family on the first boat up north singing Oh Canada....BTW: the nice thing , is I've noticed RE prices are falling in Vancouver,BC

FLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty...

Which is exactly why, I fear the Democratic party...

It's really a conundrum with me. Because generally I back a more socially liberal party, as Democrats stand for.

But Democrats(in the past) have sided with pro-union, pro-protectionism, etc. And indirectly, in my opinion, they end up fvcking over every legalized immigrant, because they often bring up economic issues in terms of unfair trade, country xyz is stealing jobs,etc, rather than "we as a country need to figure out a way to outsmart everyone else".

So when a Democratic politiciansays "The chinese are sucking are wealth dry via outsourcing", most j6p union worker can't distinguish "chinese", meaning the country versus chinese (or anyone asian for that matter) who with the exception of a hair color and skin pretty much grew up here. And the Democrat party are much more inclined to make a statement like this.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Obama wins the general election. I'm pretty certain there will be conflict with China in the coming years.

Any chinese american who thinks he'll be universally accepted when the sh!t really hits the fan with China is fooling himself.

History repeats itself:

Mexican and Mexican American workers often earned more in the United States than they could in Mexico's civil war economy, although California farmers paid Mexican and Mexican American workers significantly less than white American workers. By the 1920s, at least three quarters of California's 200,000 farm workers were Mexican or Mexican American.

As the Great Depression took a toll on California's economy during the 1930s, however, Mexicans and Mexican Americans became targets for discrimination and removal. White government officials claimed that Mexican immigrants made up the majority of the California unemployed. White trade unions claimed that Mexican immigrants were taking jobs that should go to white men. In reality, a new supply of white refugees desperate for jobs was flooding California from the Midwest, making up the majority of the unemployed.

http://www.museumca.org/picturethis/3_2....