Perfectly preserved early 70's high end interior

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Submitted by gzz on January 18, 2013 - 6:57pm

http://www.sdlookup.com/Pictures-120050000

Oh my, it is like a time warp or an ad from a 40 year old magazine. Yours for the low low price of 1.2 million.

Submitted by flyer on January 18, 2013 - 7:36pm.

Not far from some of my relative's homes in Sunset Cliffs. This one looks like most of it is original. There are also some fantastic remodels in the area--especially the further down you go on Sunset Cliffs Blvd., and up on the the surrounding hills. On the Point Loma side, take a look at Armada Terrace--fantastic city views.

In the past several years, at least in SC, many of the homes have been purchased by attorneys, insurance execs, and others who work downtown, along with well-heeled retirees who wish to be near the yacht clubs--as an example of the buyer demographics in the area.

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 18, 2013 - 7:38pm.

flyer wrote:
Yep, not far from some of my relative's homes in Sunset Cliffs. This one looks like most of it is original. There are also some fantastic rebuilds in the area--especially the further down you go on Sunset Cliffs Blvd., and up on the the surrounding hills. On the Point Loma side, take a look at Armada Terrace--fantastic city views.

Of late, at least in SC, many of the houses have been purchased by attorneys, insurance execs and others who work downtown, along with well-heeled retirees who wish to be near the yacht clubs--as a sampling of buyer demographics in the area.

Yes, Armada Terrace is one of my fav streets also, as is Savoy Circle!

I LOVE this property, gzz!! It is actually a mid-century home (with carpet from the '70's). Very typical for this area.

My FAV features are the pink tile bathroom and blue tile kitchen with an "vintage" Insinkerator faucet. It even has a hint of blue in the dining room built-in!

And an awesome back yard as well. Great bones!

Thanks so much for sharing :)

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 18, 2013 - 7:41pm.

L@rd, I so-o-o-o wish I could afford to "retire" in this area . . .

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 18, 2013 - 7:45pm.

It's such a cool house that the crank-out (likely leaky) windows don't even bother me.

And the shake roof appears to have been preserved at some point but not sure a buyer today could get an insurance binder on it. They'll probably be given a maximum of six months after COE to replace it.

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 18, 2013 - 7:47pm.

gzz, this house is going on 62 years old.

Submitted by SK in CV on January 18, 2013 - 8:01pm.

bearishgurl wrote:
gzz, this house is going on 62 years old.

Is that an old house? It's funny, the house I grew up in was built in '57 or '58 I think. We just sold it a few years ago after my mother died. I never considered it an old house. My sister still lives in the same neighborhood. But the house my grandparents lived in when I was a kid (near 50th and El Cajon Blvd) was built around 1928, and when I was young, I always considered that an old house.

How old is old?

Submitted by flyer on January 18, 2013 - 9:20pm.

bearishgurl wrote:
L@rd, I so-o-o-o wish I could afford to "retire" in this area . . .

Yes, BG, PL, SC, LJ, Mission Hills, etc., are great, and are also representative of "old money" areas where many homes are held free and clear, and are passed onto family members for generations, as mentioned in the "21%" post.

My wife and I grew up in LJ, and have relatives all over town. Now that we're in our early 50's, it's been very interesting to see the evolution of San Diego over our past 50+ years (give or take the years we lived elsewhere.)

And yes, SK, agree you will definitely find many homes in the older neighborhoods 60+ years old, in all their vintage glory!

Many, as you know, have become amazing remodels. We knew a family with a home in Mission Hills built in the early 1900's--with four stories and an elevator--on a fantastic lot!

Submitted by CA renter on January 19, 2013 - 1:46am.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if they would build houses like this again? And the lot with that view is fantastic!

Submitted by AN on January 19, 2013 - 1:52am.

Lot B+, house D-. Based on the pictures, the layout seems dysfunctional to me. If I was given that house, I'd probably tear it down and rebuild from scratch to take more advantage of that view.

Submitted by flyer on January 19, 2013 - 2:35am.

AN wrote:
Lot B+, house D-. Based on the pictures, the layout seems dysfunctional to me. If I was given that house, I'd probably tear it down and rebuild from scratch to take more advantage of that view.

AN, that's exactly what many new buyers do in that area. Someone bought a home near one of my relative's in SC for $1.5M, tore it down, and replaced it with a new mansion.

You can see numerous examples of that all over Point Loma, Sunset Cliffs and Mission Hills, etc.--it's been going on for years. They usually build up to maximize the view, and that way, they get the view and/or location they want AND a new home.

Submitted by sdduuuude on January 21, 2013 - 2:41am.

I'm guessing its more 50s than 70's, eh ? A bit of a combination of the two. 50's bones. Some 70's furnishings.

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 21, 2013 - 1:07pm.

SK in CV wrote:
bearishgurl wrote:
gzz, this house is going on 62 years old.

***

How old is old?

SK, I simply stated the age to the OP because the OP reads "Perfectly preserved early '70's high end interior." That description is in error.

The only thing that is "'70's era" on that property are the carpet, furnishings (NOT appurtenant) and cedar shake roof on the house and rear sundeck (over the now-paved alley and facing the ocean). Based upon its facade with the raised front porch, wrought iron railing, the type of siding used and even its side view on Google earth and street view, this house is undoubtedly its stated age of 62 years old. If appears to have possibly had a ~300 sf room addition added to the back which I am assuming was done in the '70's (along with the detached view deck). That is obviously when the house was re-roofed as well.

This type of house is "extremely common" in SD County but was is not "extremely common" about this listing is that it still has the preserved American Standard pastel bathroom fixtures and matching Daltile of the era, its original kitchen well as the original crank-out windows, what appears to be a "coppertone" Gaffers and Stattler wall heater (top of the line at the time) and it is situated north of Hill Street atop a rare crest which offers both city and whitewater views.

I have had many ex-coworkers who grew up in and/or bought in this micro area and can safely say that most of these alleys were paved in 1985-1986 by City contractors at a cost of $3K to $7K per homeowner (depending upon width of alley and width of each lot).

It is what it is. If I was in this buyer category, I would be personally appreciative of its many original appointments and location. One cannot "recreate" these things if they are not already there.

Yes, my own house is older than this one (with a new white paper issued 1993) and I am intimately familiar with the building mat'ls used and original features of a typical mid-century ranch style home, having grown up in one as well.

Again, thanks for sharing this very interesting and well-built listing, gzz!

Submitted by SK in CV on January 21, 2013 - 1:15pm.

I think you misunderstood BG. I don't know if a 62 year old house is old. I think 100 year old house is, particularly in SD. 50 years old probably not. I was just asking for opinion. How old is an old house in SD? I don't know the answer.

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 21, 2013 - 1:24pm.

I forgot to add that there is a 99% chance of 2.5" red oak hardwood under that "shag" carpet :)

Unfortunately, this particular micro-area is not scheduled to be "undergrounded" until 2040. (Even if I was in this "buyer category," I likely would not live long enough to enjoy an unmarred 360 degree view) :=0

Click on District 2 and see area 2H on pg 8 (wait to load):

http://www.sandiego.gov/undergrounding/s...

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 21, 2013 - 1:30pm.

SK in CV wrote:
I think you misunderstood BG. I don't know if a 62 year old house is old. I think 100 year old house is, particularly in SD. 50 years old probably not. I was just asking for opinion. How old is an old house in SD? I don't know the answer.

I consider "old houses" in SD to be older than about 1927 (Arts and Crafts period). The Mills Act requires homes to be 75 years old and their owner to demonstrate through any means that their properties have "historical significance" for its area to qualify for tax abatement (severe reduction).

But there are a LOT of Piggs here (Gen Y?) whom I think would say a 1990's-built home is "old." :=D

Submitted by bearishgurl on January 21, 2013 - 1:40pm.

AN wrote:
Lot B+, house D-. Based on the pictures, the layout seems dysfunctional to me. If I was given that house, I'd probably tear it down and rebuild from scratch to take more advantage of that view.

LOL, nothing wrong with it ... but this is typical example of a Gen Y opinion of a "dated" listing. The house doesn't "flow." :=0

Uhhh, AN?? This house sits on a 12,800 sf corner lot with a paved alley.

Not ALL alleys in 92106/92107 ARE paved.

In your opinion, what percentage of the asking price represents the lot and what percentage represents the house and deck?

Submitted by AN on January 21, 2013 - 1:59pm.

bearishgurl wrote:
AN wrote:
Lot B+, house D-. Based on the pictures, the layout seems dysfunctional to me. If I was given that house, I'd probably tear it down and rebuild from scratch to take more advantage of that view.

LOL, nothing wrong with it ... but this is typical example of a Gen Y opinion of a "dated" listing. The house doesn't "flow." :=0

Uhhh, AN?? This house sits on a 12,800 sf corner lot with a paved alley.

Not ALL alleys in 92106/92107 ARE paved.

In your opinion, what percentage of the asking price represents the lot and what percentage represents the house and deck?


90% lot and 10% house.

Submitted by AN on January 21, 2013 - 2:01pm.

bearishgurl wrote:
SK in CV wrote:
I think you misunderstood BG. I don't know if a 62 year old house is old. I think 100 year old house is, particularly in SD. 50 years old probably not. I was just asking for opinion. How old is an old house in SD? I don't know the answer.

I consider "old houses" in SD to be older than about 1927 (Arts and Crafts period). The Mills Act requires homes to be 75 years old and their owner to demonstrate through any means that their properties have "historical significance" for its area to qualify for tax abatement (severe reduction).

But there are a LOT of Piggs here (Gen Y?) whom I think would say a 1990's-built home is "old." :=D


I'm Gen Y and I would say most that are pre 1980 is old.

Submitted by elzocalo2 on January 21, 2013 - 6:26pm.

AN wrote:
bearishgurl wrote:
SK in CV wrote:
I think you misunderstood BG. I don't know if a 62 year old house is old. I think 100 year old house is, particularly in SD. 50 years old probably not. I was just asking for opinion. How old is an old house in SD? I don't know the answer.

I consider "old houses" in SD to be older than about 1927 (Arts and Crafts period). The Mills Act requires homes to be 75 years old and their owner to demonstrate through any means that their properties have "historical significance" for its area to qualify for tax abatement (severe reduction).

But there are a LOT of Piggs here (Gen Y?) whom I think would say a 1990's-built home is "old." :=D


I'm Gen Y and I would say most that are pre 1980 is old.

In SD, the threshold for potential historical significance, is 45 y.o. See http://www.sandiego.gov/planning/program...

The FEDs see 50 years as the threshold, http://www.achp.gov/docs/CitizenGuide.pdf

Personally, i think both are too young; but then again, I am about to be potentially historic based on SD standards

Submitted by flyer on January 21, 2013 - 7:36pm.

Some of the best lots in town are in areas with older homes. Unless the home is of historic value, many people buy a house they might not love, tear it down, and build what they want. For many, it's all about location, not how "new" the house is.

Submitted by SD Squatter on January 22, 2013 - 2:13pm.

gzz wrote:
http://www.sdlookup.com/Pictures-120050000

Oh my, it is like a time warp or an ad from a 40 year old magazine. Yours for the low low price of 1.2 million.

Well, how about a perfectly-preserved 1965?

http://www.sdlookup.com/Pictures-120044899

Too bad their fridge broke down sometimes in the 80s, the rest is a perfect "time-warp"

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