OT: So if a underage teen drinker gets drunk on flight and gets arrested, is it constitutional?

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Submitted by flu on January 7, 2013 - 8:07am

Oh Ron Paul, Ron Paul, what would Ron Paul do???

:)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/07/politics/n...


Sen. Rand Paul's son arrested at North Carolina airport, charged with underage drinking

(CNN) -- The 19-year-old son of U.S. Sen. Rand Paul was charged with underage drinking and disorderly conduct after being arrested over the weekend at North Carolina's Charlotte Douglas International Airport, authorities said.
William Hilton Paul was arrested Saturday following a flight from Kentucky to North Carolina, according to the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office in Charlotte.
Authorities did not say whether Paul, of Bowling Green, Kentucky, was believed to have been drinking on the airplane or at the airport.
The senator's office released a statement calling the issue a private family matter.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on January 7, 2013 - 8:42am.

if many facets of a politician's "character" is truly an issue for voters, it seems like their kids failings, to the extent they manifest a politician's character, are also relevant.

personally, i don't find it relevant, but it seems like the way voters evaluate candidates, pretty much everything, including this kind of stuff, would be relevant.

at the very least, parents need to teach their kids to be cool on aircraft.

Submitted by no_such_reality on January 7, 2013 - 9:12am.

If their biggest failing is their kid getting some drink before they're 21, I'd say that's a pretty damn good job.

Kentucky also has some interesting rules on underage drinking. The drinking isn't prohibited, the possession is.

Submitted by scaredyclassic on January 7, 2013 - 10:57am.

The disorderly could be the problem

Submitted by UCGal on January 7, 2013 - 11:08am.

I think my husband may have witnessed some of that. He was flying TO Kentucky on Saturday and said there was some bru-ha-ha at the Charlotte airport when he was getting ready to board his flight to Lexington. I'll have to check into the timing to see if it matches up.

Submitted by sdduuuude on January 7, 2013 - 11:13am.

He must be the only 19-year old to ever drink alcohol cuz that just NEVER happens.

Submitted by barnaby33 on January 7, 2013 - 11:18am.

We don't smoke and we don't chew and we don't go with girls who do and our class won the bible!
Josh

Submitted by flu on January 7, 2013 - 11:45am.

But that's not the point... Is it constitutional?

Submitted by spdrun on January 7, 2013 - 11:59am.

Nope. 21-to-drink is a law that was unconstitutionally pushed on states by DC in the 1980s. (They took away 10% of highway funding if states didn't toe the line.)

On the other hand, he was disorderly as well -- if he hadn't made a putz of himself, nothing would have come of it.

Submitted by blahblahblah on January 7, 2013 - 12:28pm.
Submitted by patb on January 7, 2013 - 8:19pm.

look at the story, he was arrested at the airport by mclenburg county sheriff for
underage drinking and disorderly conduct.

assuming the sheriff had jurisdiction, it's an action by a county sheriff pursuant to state law.

I don't get your question? The states regulate drinking ages, they regulate behaviour.

it's usually a crime in most jurisdiction to be "disturbing the peace" or "Disorderly conduct" or "Depriving the general public of free use of the commons". If the kid was drunk, it's presumptive he was underage drinking.

more details may exist, such as if he was in possession of alcohol and drinking on the flight, or if air crew complained.

if you say something is unconstitutional it means :
1) The layer of government lacks that power or
2) The layer of government is depriving the people or another layer of a fundamental right.

So to give some example, the Federal Government has the right to print money and the states are prohibited to print money. So if a state were to create California Credits, and to start printing and selling them, this would be
"Unconstitutional". however, if a person were to create Satirical Arnolds,
to present as social commentary, this would be a first amendment issue.
So a prohibition of Arnolds would be a 1st amendment violation.

So are you arguing the kid has some sort of constitutional right to get drunk?
or the states can't regulate alcohol or behaviour?

Submitted by scaredyclassic on January 7, 2013 - 8:20pm.

if charged federally, air travel is definitely the kind of area the govcanregualte on as it clearly involves interstate commerce.

Submitted by UCGal on January 8, 2013 - 11:08am.

The dad, Rand, can't get too upset. Didn't he have issues with pot and the whole aqua buddha thing when he was at Baylor?

Like father, like son?

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