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Maybe you could enjoy it with a cigarette while sipping a raw milk...you can take the left overs home in a plastic bag.

Actually Sauterne and foil gras are one of the classic food and wine pairings in the world. If you have never had it you are missing out on something amazing

Not a big loss as far as I'm concerned. I think that foie gras can still be made under humane conditions but it'll cost much more.

I prefer pâté de campagne.

pâté and foie gras are both good, but what does pâté have anything to do with the banning of foie gras? So, it's ok ban certain food because most people don't eat it?

Good one!

The recurring debate over giving one extra sq. foot to chickens on the farm cracks me up. If you are going to eat them at the end of the day, how does it matter?

AN, foie gras is made by force feeding the geese to unnaturally increase the size and fatten the liver.

We don't need to force feed to make foie gras. We can use other sources of fat of the animal to add to the foie (liver), or process more liver to get the same amount of foie gras. That would increase the cost of the product, but does not eliminate a gastronomic option. I'm not in favor of banning foie gras; but I'm in favor of regulating how it's made.

I make pate myself at home. It's not that hard. I can control what goes in there, but without preservatives it does not last that long.

Pate is mostly fat, the smoother and buttery it is the fatter is is.... not healthy for you. The pate I make is more chunky pate de campagne (country pate).

There's a more humane way to force feed a duck? Using a clean rubber hose instead of a dirty metal pipe doesn't seem to make it any more humane.

I'm kind of agnostic about this whole thing. I eat meat, but my kids don't. I think it's only marginally more humane to eat a cow that's been shot in the head, than a duck that's been force fed before slaughtering. I don't really like to think about that process for either one. Though I've never had foie gras. I suspect it's pretty tasty.

Just about everyone's ethical stance regarding animal treatment has contradictions. Why are dogs and cats subject to different rules than animals bred for food? It's ok to be cruel to something you are going to kill, but you have to be nice to something you aren't going to kill? The list goes on...

The vegans probably have the most logically consistent framework, but I like lamb and veal way too much to go that route.

Here's an easy pate recipe.

I don't buy it when people say they have to eat packaged junk food because they don't have time to cook. With some knowledge and creativity, you can make a healthy meal in 1/2 hour.

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/liver-pate/
You can also bake the pate into a cake form and slice it. Bacon fat can be added to make it more buttery.

If you visit the French countryside, you'll see that their agriculture is much more humane and sustainable than our big agri-businesses. There are plenty of free-range chicken farms and pasture where cows walk around. In France, you can stop at small village all over the country and buy artisanal products. The products are fresh, flavorful and healthy. In America, when you visit the country, you see Walmart stores.

On the issue of foie gras, even the French are conflicted. Force feeding geese might be a tradition, but it's not compatible with our modern view of the world. It's time to change.

enron_by_the_sea, it's not just about 1 extra sq for chicken. It's about responsible farming. Do you really want to eat chicken pumped with antibiotic and hormones; chickens that are sick with such fragile bones they barely stand up?

Here's a slaughter house in your beloved France:

http://observers.france24.com/content/20...

Does not look that great to me?

If you travel to the small farming towns in the USA you can find the same thing as in France not just a Walmart store. But what would I know actually owning a small farm with livestock?

I very rarely eat animals and I can totally understand the health aspect of this arrangement for humans. However I don't get why this arrangement would be that much better for the chicken ...

A free-range chicken is a happy chicken. He's
better off than a chicken cooped up in a cage.

Neither chicken know that they eventually become meals.

Unless you have a "chicken brain" you really do not know that either....

Do chickens suffer from agoraphobia? It sounds like a study that needs to be undertaken by some psuedo government agency. Of course the research positions should also offer a defined benefit pension plan.

Apparently so!

http://beta.newsbiscuit.com/board/27/27/...

Deleted. getting way OT

When I was a kid we would go to Grandpa’s farm in the summers.
They had what I considered free range chicken’s which I think had to be witness to several beheadings, but they still hung around (I guess home is where the coop is).

But this probably explains why I am a beer and assorted nuts guy, no chickens are harmed in their production as far as I know.

The ban is not on the foie gras itself, but on products derived through force feeding.

From what I heard, the 7.5 years grace period was actually put place for a California manufacturer to adjust its practices. But the manufacturer decided not to do so.

This is an opportunity for non-force feeding foie gras makers to enter the market. Just use more liver and mix with some duck fat. Problem is that it'll cost more because each duck/goose has only 1 liver.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/dining...

July 1 is the start date of the hotly debated and divisive ban, which prohibits the sale of any product derived from the force-feeding of birds to enlarge their livers — the most common way to mass-produce foie gras. . (The law was passed in 2004, but included a seven-and-a-half-year grace period.)

Perhaps someone will find a way to strongly encourage geese to over eat

foie gras...ewwwwwweee...

Now if they ban chicken feet from dim sum...That would be heresy.... Just kidding. ewwwwwwwwwweeee.

Do they feed them sugar ?

spike the grains with corn syrup molasses. My horse gets a litle bit of that sometimes.

The easiest way to fatten up farm animals is to feed them processed grains rather than natural.

Walmart even sells animal feed in rural areas of the country:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/C.O.B.-With-Mo...

Dogs provide companionship and historically were working animals. It's the same reason humans historically don't eat horses. They provide more economic value alive than as food. I'm not much of a cat person myself, but I imagine their meat would be pretty stringy and gamey. They also do provide potential economic value in their traditional role as hunters of rodents and pest birds.

I prefer wild Quail, whiter meat than you think and it does not have the "gamey" taste, although it is not as tender as a farm grown bird, not sure what wine I should have with it. I am having some tonite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8IuUcvoYQQ

I wouldn't call chickens dumb... I had an ex who had a domesticated chicken. It would come when it was called and sit in your lap... It wasnt house trained but I have seen dogs that were worse than this chicken. It was a sweet animal...

Made me think about eating chicken...

CE

That sounds like now we are now killing 2 or more ducks to make living life of one duck better (before we kill him too). Is that supposed to be more humane :)?

There are plenty of "free range" farms in many rural parts of the US. It isn't just Wal*Mart and factory farms, you know.


My question is as follows: will the border guards now ask you whether you're carrying any foie gras as well as the usual questions about fruits and veggies when crossing into CA from Arizona?