Hopefully someday we will look back and remember how shameful all this is. Why does anyone really care about what others chose to do? It’s funny how you chose this site to point out every little thing you can find to make those leaning left look bad. We could type all day about bad things that people have done. But it does not change that fact that prop 8 is an attempt to infringe on the rights of homosexuals (which should be the same rights as everyone else). I can't imagine how the homosexuals must feel. For society to tell them that they should not be treated equally is sad. I’m sure you'll come up with some overblown reason why marriage should be denied to them. Something about Sodom and Gomorrah. We will all die in a hail of fire if we allow this to happen. But your arguments will have no basis in reality. Live and let live. Maybe you should focus all this nervous energy you have into doing something good. Like I said before though let it out if you have to. Your anger will hopefully pass. And when it does you can sit back, relax, and chill out.
Submitted by mydogsarelazy on November 2, 2008 - 1:44pm.
Where I live I have seen maybe 2 or 3 Obama signs on lawns compared to dozens of McCain/Palin signs.
There are "Yes on 8" signs on many front lawns, and there have been several very prominent public "Yes on 8" demonstrations on street corners with waving people and honking cars.
So, since I am a strong Obama supporter and also a "No on 8" person, I have responded by putting up no signs, and having no bumper stickers on my car. Why let my neighbors, who clearly feel differently, know that I am on the other side, when it won't change their mind?
I doubt that a sign on anyone's lawn ever really affected the outcome of an election. What these signs do is say "here is what team I am on." It is a shame that this can lead to vandalism and heightened tension, but we are a nation of teams, aren't we?
Submitted by ralphfurley on November 3, 2008 - 6:25am.
I feel I'm as tolerant as the next guy, but seeing "Yes on Prop 8" on my fantasy football page is overkill.
Why is there a pop-up add (about gay marriage) preventing me from subbing out Phillip Rivers for Chad Pennington during SD's bye-week? Maybe it was God's will, telling me I should have picked up Jeff Garcia.
Yeah, and all McCain supporters are Nazis:
So what's your point?
Well there's an informed statement.
That's probably your can of spray paint on your own front lawn.
Ok, it may be a little nuanced for you but afx's statement was kind of a sarcastic mockery. Using the same logic and showing how stupid the original post is. So really can extend you criticism to the original post. In which I concur it is not an informed statement.
I agree with prop 8. We give too much rights to these "people"
Infact, I think we should go back to the good old days where's different people shouldn't have rights at all. There should not be interracial marriages, blacks and hispanics shouldn't vote, put the Japanese in internment camps, women shouldn't vote, there should be separate drinking fountains for colored and white folks, and we should put pink triangles on those "people".
That's what I think we should do!!
You guys are totally missing the point. Isn't the whole backbone of NO on Prop 8 tolerance? It's just proof that the tolerance only extends to those who have the same beliefs.
Submitted by urbanrealtor on November 3, 2008 - 10:36am.
CBad wrote:
You guys are totally missing the point. Isn't the whole backbone of NO on Prop 8 tolerance? It's just proof that the tolerance only extends to those who have the same beliefs.
No. Its proof that there are dickheads who share my political views on this particular issue.
I believe in racial equality but find the Nation of Islam to be hateful and bigoted.
I believe in gay rights but would gleefully endorse the euthanasia of Richard Simmons.
Also, I don't believe its about tolerance.
Its about civil rights.
Those are worth fighting for.
Those are worth getting violent for.
I agree that a ballot campaign is not the place though...
Violence and vandalism are the opposite of voting.
They only make sense when there are no other options.
No. Its proof that there are dickheads who share my political views on this particular issue.
That's exactly what I wanted someone to say and I agree with you. I'll be sure and dig this post up whenever some whack job who stands behind 'pro-life' does something violent.
Allan,
The pink triangle was used by the Nazis to single out homesexuals in concentration camps.
I figure since we are taking away rights anyway from those "people", why not continue Hitler's great work in preserving the integrity of keeping things pure for "us".
Submitted by urbanrealtor on November 3, 2008 - 11:21am.
CBad wrote:
urbanrealtor wrote:
No. Its proof that there are dickheads who share my political views on this particular issue.
That's exactly what I wanted someone to say and I agree with you. I'll be sure and dig this post up whenever some whack job who stands behind 'pro-life' does something violent.
You are certainly justified in doing so.
It is not fair to equate the radical right with the conservative right.
It is also unfair to equate psychos doing violent things with the party or ideology they support.
Submitted by urbanrealtor on November 3, 2008 - 11:22am.
bobby wrote:
Allan,
The pink triangle was used by the Nazis to single out homesexuals in concentration camps.
I figure since we are taking away rights anyway from those "people", why not continue Hitler's great work in preserving the integrity of keeping things pure for "us".
He probably knew that.
He is far and away one the most intelligent posters here.
Why is there a pop-up add (about gay marriage) preventing me from subbing out Phillip Rivers for Chad Pennington during SD's bye-week? Maybe it was God's will, telling me I should have picked up Jeff Garcia.
Good one...
You know he goes to great lengths to cover up with smoking hot ladies around, but c'mon man we all know.... it's ok, and I don't think any less of the guy.
Why is there a pop-up add (about gay marriage) preventing me from subbing out Phillip Rivers for Chad Pennington during SD's bye-week? Maybe it was God's will, telling me I should have picked up Jeff Garcia.
Good one...
You know he goes to great lengths to cover up with smoking hot ladies around, but c'mon man we all know.... it's ok, and I don't think any less of the guy.
I'm really disgusted by both sides of the Prop 8 issue.
I'll disclose, I'm seriously against Prop 8. I'm wearing a No on 8 sticker at work right now. I sneer every time I see a Yes on 8 sign, and honk and give thumbs ups to the No on 8 people I see in Hillcrest.
I'm appalled by all the sign stealing, vandalism, etc this issue has brought up. My friends are all liberals who are "No on 8" people, and a few people in my extended social circle have said things about social conservatives that made me sad. It's exactly the kind of language that some social conservatives use about homosexuals. As Liberals we're supposed to be better than that. We're supposed to take the high road, turn the other cheek.
Unfortunately it's one of those issues that is emotional, not rational. We also probably won't know the final result until Thursday or so.
I'm equally disgusted, yet I'm for 8 and as such, I'm prejudged as a biggot, homophobe, and so on.
For me this is a moral issue. I don't think I am any better than this group of people, I simply do not believe marriage should be dilluted to assign "equal" rights to them.
All I have to add at this point though is I look forward to this site getting back to Housing/Economy posts.
All I have to add at this point though is I look forward to this site getting back to Housing/Economy posts. Remember those?
We should all take a vow of no more political posts after Nov 4th. I'll sign that petition and even print up some 'No On Political Posts!' signs that we can put in our lawns.
Submitted by urbanrealtor on November 3, 2008 - 6:55pm.
afx114 wrote:
cooprider wrote:
All I have to add at this point though is I look forward to this site getting back to Housing/Economy posts. Remember those?
We should all take a vow of no more political posts after Nov 4th. I'll sign that petition and even print up some 'No On Political Posts!' signs that we can put in our lawns.
PW: Too funny. One of the downsides to the whole Political Correctness movement has been the stifling of not only legitimate criticism, but the lack of satire and parody.
People are so fearful of giving offense, or being categorized/characterized as bigots, homophobes or Nazis, that they say nothing and that breeds resentment and hateful behavior (like swastikas and KKK signs on lawn posters).
We need to get back to being able to say something is stupid if it is, or rightfully pointing out mistakes and errors in judgment, even if the person that made them is of color, or a woman, or gay or a midget. Jesus, we all take ourselves and our feelings waaaaaay too seriously now.
Yeah, and all McCain supporters are Nazis:
So what's your point?
Hopefully someday we will look back and remember how shameful all this is. Why does anyone really care about what others chose to do? It’s funny how you chose this site to point out every little thing you can find to make those leaning left look bad. We could type all day about bad things that people have done. But it does not change that fact that prop 8 is an attempt to infringe on the rights of homosexuals (which should be the same rights as everyone else). I can't imagine how the homosexuals must feel. For society to tell them that they should not be treated equally is sad. I’m sure you'll come up with some overblown reason why marriage should be denied to them. Something about Sodom and Gomorrah. We will all die in a hail of fire if we allow this to happen. But your arguments will have no basis in reality. Live and let live. Maybe you should focus all this nervous energy you have into doing something good. Like I said before though let it out if you have to. Your anger will hopefully pass. And when it does you can sit back, relax, and chill out.
Where I live I have seen maybe 2 or 3 Obama signs on lawns compared to dozens of McCain/Palin signs.
There are "Yes on 8" signs on many front lawns, and there have been several very prominent public "Yes on 8" demonstrations on street corners with waving people and honking cars.
So, since I am a strong Obama supporter and also a "No on 8" person, I have responded by putting up no signs, and having no bumper stickers on my car. Why let my neighbors, who clearly feel differently, know that I am on the other side, when it won't change their mind?
I doubt that a sign on anyone's lawn ever really affected the outcome of an election. What these signs do is say "here is what team I am on." It is a shame that this can lead to vandalism and heightened tension, but we are a nation of teams, aren't we?
That won't change whoever gets elected.
JS
I feel I'm as tolerant as the next guy, but seeing "Yes on Prop 8" on my fantasy football page is overkill.
Why is there a pop-up add (about gay marriage) preventing me from subbing out Phillip Rivers for Chad Pennington during SD's bye-week? Maybe it was God's will, telling me I should have picked up Jeff Garcia.
So what's your point?
Well there's an informed statement.
That's probably your can of spray paint on your own front lawn.
So what's your point?
Well there's an informed statement.
That's probably your can of spray paint on your own front lawn.
Ok, it may be a little nuanced for you but afx's statement was kind of a sarcastic mockery. Using the same logic and showing how stupid the original post is. So really can extend you criticism to the original post. In which I concur it is not an informed statement.
Arraya, that may be beyond his level of humor.
Just sayin.
I agree with prop 8. We give too much rights to these "people"
Infact, I think we should go back to the good old days where's different people shouldn't have rights at all. There should not be interracial marriages, blacks and hispanics shouldn't vote, put the Japanese in internment camps, women shouldn't vote, there should be separate drinking fountains for colored and white folks, and we should put pink triangles on those "people".
That's what I think we should do!!
bobby: Why pink?
Why not fuchsia or teal? Now you're the one limiting their rights!
You guys are totally missing the point. Isn't the whole backbone of NO on Prop 8 tolerance? It's just proof that the tolerance only extends to those who have the same beliefs.
Did anyone see this? I thought it was funny.
Sign Stealer gets Electrocuted
No. Its proof that there are dickheads who share my political views on this particular issue.
I believe in racial equality but find the Nation of Islam to be hateful and bigoted.
I believe in gay rights but would gleefully endorse the euthanasia of Richard Simmons.
Also, I don't believe its about tolerance.
Its about civil rights.
Those are worth fighting for.
Those are worth getting violent for.
I agree that a ballot campaign is not the place though...
Violence and vandalism are the opposite of voting.
They only make sense when there are no other options.
That's exactly what I wanted someone to say and I agree with you. I'll be sure and dig this post up whenever some whack job who stands behind 'pro-life' does something violent.
Allan,
The pink triangle was used by the Nazis to single out homesexuals in concentration camps.
I figure since we are taking away rights anyway from those "people", why not continue Hitler's great work in preserving the integrity of keeping things pure for "us".
That's exactly what I wanted someone to say and I agree with you. I'll be sure and dig this post up whenever some whack job who stands behind 'pro-life' does something violent.
You are certainly justified in doing so.
It is not fair to equate the radical right with the conservative right.
It is also unfair to equate psychos doing violent things with the party or ideology they support.
So we are in agreement here.
The pink triangle was used by the Nazis to single out homesexuals in concentration camps.
I figure since we are taking away rights anyway from those "people", why not continue Hitler's great work in preserving the integrity of keeping things pure for "us".
He probably knew that.
He is far and away one the most intelligent posters here.
sorry Allan.
Why is there a pop-up add (about gay marriage) preventing me from subbing out Phillip Rivers for Chad Pennington during SD's bye-week? Maybe it was God's will, telling me I should have picked up Jeff Garcia.
Good one...
You know he goes to great lengths to cover up with smoking hot ladies around, but c'mon man we all know.... it's ok, and I don't think any less of the guy.
Before Jeff-G there was Kordell Stewart...
Why is there a pop-up add (about gay marriage) preventing me from subbing out Phillip Rivers for Chad Pennington during SD's bye-week? Maybe it was God's will, telling me I should have picked up Jeff Garcia.
Good one...
You know he goes to great lengths to cover up with smoking hot ladies around, but c'mon man we all know.... it's ok, and I don't think any less of the guy.
Before Jeff-G there was Kordell Stewart...
:rofl:
now you're using my tactic
I'm really disgusted by both sides of the Prop 8 issue.
I'll disclose, I'm seriously against Prop 8. I'm wearing a No on 8 sticker at work right now. I sneer every time I see a Yes on 8 sign, and honk and give thumbs ups to the No on 8 people I see in Hillcrest.
I'm appalled by all the sign stealing, vandalism, etc this issue has brought up. My friends are all liberals who are "No on 8" people, and a few people in my extended social circle have said things about social conservatives that made me sad. It's exactly the kind of language that some social conservatives use about homosexuals. As Liberals we're supposed to be better than that. We're supposed to take the high road, turn the other cheek.
Unfortunately it's one of those issues that is emotional, not rational. We also probably won't know the final result until Thursday or so.
I'm equally disgusted, yet I'm for 8 and as such, I'm prejudged as a biggot, homophobe, and so on.
For me this is a moral issue. I don't think I am any better than this group of people, I simply do not believe marriage should be dilluted to assign "equal" rights to them.
All I have to add at this point though is I look forward to this site getting back to Housing/Economy posts.
Remember those?
We should all take a vow of no more political posts after Nov 4th. I'll sign that petition and even print up some 'No On Political Posts!' signs that we can put in our lawns.
We should all take a vow of no more political posts after Nov 4th. I'll sign that petition and even print up some 'No On Political Posts!' signs that we can put in our lawns.
Yeah okay.
Then I want a pony.
Also, Cooprider, there is only one "g" in bigot.
This is a fun musical.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20...
PW: Too funny. One of the downsides to the whole Political Correctness movement has been the stifling of not only legitimate criticism, but the lack of satire and parody.
People are so fearful of giving offense, or being categorized/characterized as bigots, homophobes or Nazis, that they say nothing and that breeds resentment and hateful behavior (like swastikas and KKK signs on lawn posters).
We need to get back to being able to say something is stupid if it is, or rightfully pointing out mistakes and errors in judgment, even if the person that made them is of color, or a woman, or gay or a midget. Jesus, we all take ourselves and our feelings waaaaaay too seriously now.
Holy f###ing Crap! Not prop 8 again. I'm sticking by my original suggestion about toning down the parades.