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moneymaker
6 years ago

Interesting that the
Interesting that the price/sq. ft. for condos is actually higher than it was at the last peak and yet prices are lower. Is the average condo smaller these days? or is it just that the smaller ones are selling easier because they are cheaper? If one looks solely at price/sq. ft. then it looks like we are back at the peak, of course this doesn’t take inflation into account.

gzz
gzz
6 years ago

Thanks for the updated info.
Thanks for the updated info. Looks like Month over Month is the biggest jump in the past 30 or so months, or tied for it. And year over year is now double digits for condos and ticked up to 8% for houses.

Looking forward, I think strong price increases are still likely based on the following:

1. Mortgage payments remain low compared to rent
2. San Diego increases are not just lagging SF and LA, but also a lot of other 2nd tier markets like Seattle, Denver, etc.
3. Ultralow resale supply and very low new construction.

So my prediction is continued strong increases this year and next, but perhaps moderating in 2019 as valuations start to better reflect rent.

On the other hand, one year after another of steady profits for home buyers can be fuel for aggressive lending and speculation, so perhaps 2019 will not be the year of the moderation, but the start of bubble valuations.

moneymaker
6 years ago
Reply to  gzz

Zillow says my place
Zillow says my place increased in value while Redfin says it decreased, doesn’t really matter to me as I’m not taking any equity out or selling.

spdrun
6 years ago
Reply to  gzz

… aaaaaand, we’re assuming
… aaaaaand, we’re assuming constant growth, forever. US has pretty much never gone 10 years w/o a recession, and we’re on year 8.

Escoguy
6 years ago
Reply to  spdrun

Much of the stimulus response
Much of the stimulus response from the 2008 recession is still working through the system.

My low interest rates are fixed for 30 years.

spdrun
6 years ago
Reply to  Escoguy

Your payment for the next 30
Your payment for the next 30 years has little to do with whether your home is worth a given price. The only thing that matters is the buyer’s payment or ability to pay.

Escoguy
6 years ago
Reply to  spdrun

Ok, let’s look at that.
I

Ok, let’s look at that.

I bought my home in 2013 for 580K, a home across the street is listed at 1.1M

My payment is $1780/month + property tax. Rate is 3.1% 30 yr fixed.

So for a payment less than a 2BR apartment today, I live in a 1M+ home.

If I bought today, the payment would be at least $2,400/month more.

So every month I live here, I have imputed income of $2,400 which I can spend elsewhere. And of course I’m not the only one, there are millions more like me who are loathe to move.

So in that sense, I have almost 30K of stimulus over the next 29 years (did refi after Brexit in 2016).

I get your point about today’s home worth, but I really don’t care. I live a great lifestyle at a modest cost. Hope this makes sense.

More to the point, my other spending perhaps makes up for some of the lack of spending who have to spend a greater portion of their income on housing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
6 years ago
Reply to  Escoguy

But what about your
But what about your opportunity cost? That 1M+ asset could easily generate $4000+/month in tax free income. So the way I look at it is you are paying a price to own and live in that home. And don’t forget your maintenance costs on the deteriorating asset.

Perhaps putting the equity into a tax free money making bond fund will let a person live for free in their rented home. I am assuming you have quite a bit of equity and could leverage to get the full 1M+ buying power.

Yes, I am a renter. I wuold say you are ‘spending’ $50K+/year to live in your home.

Escoguy
6 years ago
Reply to  gzz

Just interviewed a lady today
Just interviewed a lady today for a position.

She moved to SD from Seattle.

She had an offer on her house before they put their bags in their car as they were leaving.

They got a nice premium which would allow them to pay cash in Vista.

She said she was going to talk with her friends about how much more value one gets in SD vs Seattle and encourage them to move as well.