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Hold on sparkies...We're just at the beginning of all the "bailouts" efforts.User Forum Topic
Submitted by fat_lazy_union_... on March 14, 2008 - 10:59am
ooo boy.....Me thinks as things get worse and worse, we're going to see more and more ridiculous bailout proposals and executions. Hang on to that rollercoaster, the fun has just started :( Bailouts of epic proportions.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080314/bernanke_... Bernanke Vows to Help Homeowners
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Fighting to stem a dangerous wave of home foreclosures, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke pledged Friday to do all that is possible to help struggling homeowners. The Fed is "strongly committed to fully employing our authority, expertise and resources to help alleviate their distress," Bernanke said in a speech to the National Community Reinvestment Coalition's annual meeting here. Record-high foreclosures are aggravating problems in the housing market and for the national economy, which many fear is on the verge of a recession or in one already. Bernanke didn't offer new recommendations -- as he did earlier this month -- but rather spoke of the various steps the Fed already is taking to address current problems and to prevent another crisis of this sort. The Fed, for instance, has proposed a rule to protect homebuyers from some of the same dubious lending practices that contributed to the housing and credit debacles now shaking the country. Subprime borrowers -- those with tarnished credit histories or low incomes -- have been hurt the most, although problems have spread to more creditworthy borrowers. "Far too much of the lending in recent years was neither responsible nor prudent," Bernanke said. "The terms of some subprime mortgages permitted homebuyers and investors to purchase properties beyond their means, often with little or no equity," he added. "In addition, abusive, unfair or deceptive lending practices led some borrowers into mortgages that they would not have chosen knowingly." At the end of last year, more than one in five of the roughly 3.6 million outstanding subprime adjustable-rate mortgages were seriously delinquent -- meaning they were either in foreclosure or 90 days or more past due. That rate is about four times higher than it was in the middle of 2005, he said. Meanwhile, in 2007, about 45 percent of foreclosures were on prime, near-prime or government-backed mortgages, he added. The meltdown in the housing and credit markets are not only straining homeowners but also have forced financial companies to rack up multibillion losses. The situation has unhinged Wall Street, put the Federal Reserve and the Bush administration in crisis-management mode, rattled the public and sent politicians -- including those vying to be the next president -- scrambling for solutions. Underscoring the urgency: Bear Stearns Cos., one of Wall Street's venerable investment banks, received a rescue package by the Federal Reserve and JPMorgan Chase & Co. on Friday -- just hours before Bernanke spoke. It was a last-ditch effort to save the 86-year old institution. The Federal Reserve responded swiftly to pleas from Bear Stearns that its coffers had "significantly deteriorated" within a 24-hour period. The bank, which had made a fortune in mortgage-backed securities, has ran up $2.75 billion in write-downs since last year, and faced a possible collapse without some kind of lifeline. Before launching into his prepared remarks, Bernanke mentioned that he had a "busy morning." He did not elaborate. To help brace the economy from all the fallout, the Federal Reserve is expected to cut a key interest rate, now at 3 percent, next week. The debate is whether it will be a half percentage point or an even bigger three-quarter-point reduction. Bernanke, in his speech, did not provide clues on that front. Instead, the Fed chief's speech stuck closely to steps the Fed is taking to prevent prospective homebuyers from getting burned in the future when they take out a mortgage. On this front, the Fed has a proposal that would restrict lenders from penalizing risky borrowers who pay loans off early, require lenders to make sure these borrowers set aside money to pay for taxes and insurance and bar lenders from making loans without proof of a borrower's income. It also would prohibit lenders from engaging in a pattern or practice of lending without considering a borrower's ability to repay a home loan from sources other than the home's value. The proposal also would curtail misleading ads for many types of mortgages and bolster financial disclosures to borrowers. "The combination of stricter regulation and better disclosure will not solve all the problems," Bernanke said. "We do believe, however, that this proposal will give consumers much better information," he added. In addition to this effort, Bernanke said a "strong uniform oversight of different types of mortgage lenders is critical to avoiding future problems." The housing collapse dragged down home values, clobbering borrowers. Many were left with mortgages that exceeded the value of their homes. They were further socked by low introductory rates on their adjustable mortgages, which then reset to higher rates, making their monthly payments difficult or impossible, to afford. "For a number of years, rapid increases in house prices effectively insulated lenders and investors from the effect of weaker underwriting, providing false comfort," Bernanke said. In a speech earlier this month, Bernanke urged lenders to help distressed homeowners by lowering the amount of their loans. At the time, Bernanke suggested such a longer-term permanent solution may work better than shorter-term and temporary ones, where the distressed homeowner could find himself in trouble again. To date, permanent home mortgage modifications that have occurred have typically involved a reduction in the interest rate, while reductions of the principal balance of the loan have been quite rare, he said.
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Bush said, quote: "You can't overcorrect because when you overcorrect you end up in a ditch."
Was he listed in the Real Men/Women of Genius thread?
All government efforts will do is increase defaults.
If you give people facing foreclosure money and resources to pay less for their house than they signed a contract for, why would people paying on time continue to do so?
I can see the headlines 3 months from now:
"Foreclosure Fraud - Homeowners are increasingly "faking" financial difficulty to qualify for bailout programs designed for people much dumber than them."
" Meanwhile, in 2007, about 45 percent of foreclosures were on prime, near-prime or government-backed mortgages, he added."
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The foreclosures have only started. Don't think that only the low-income will be affected.
6 months from now, house prices will drop even more as the foreclosures entering the pipeline make it onto the MLS.
All government efforts will do is increase defaults.
If you give people facing foreclosure money and resources to pay less for their house than they signed a contract for, why would people paying on time continue to do so?
I can see the headlines 3 months from now:
"Foreclosure Fraud - Homeowners are increasingly "faking" financial difficulty to qualify for bailout programs designed for people much dumber than them."
yes. yes. but it's getting to the point, it's starting to take the rest of us more responsible down with everyone else. Anyone else starting to feel this is going to be a huge problem for the rest of us as well???
selfportrait
----- Sour grapes for everyone!
Unfortunately, we (as a society) allowed this to happen... so we will have to pay for it.
We just need to get rid of the regulators and government officials who were either complicit or asleep at the wheel so it doesn't happen again.
Yes FLU I am in your camp as well. It seems easier for many posters to handwave and say none of these bailouts will help. Unfortunately there is only tacit acknowledgement that that is not the point. The point is it is going to cost me as a taxpayer dearly, it will not help anything, and indeed the beauracracy, fraud, and overhead that it will create will be a tidy little side affect to the entire problem. Many more people will make lots of money off of what will be a taxpayer funded shenanigan... but don't worry, it won't help right?
SD Realtor
I completely agree whats done is done i don't think you can point the finger in any one direction im sure in some cases people were excited and signed away others had their paper work messed with etc. It's bad enough that people are completely in credit card debt and now have to lose their homes. Lets hope things change come November.
"I completely agree whats done is done i don't think you can point the finger in any one direction im sure in some cases people were excited and signed away others had their paper work messed with etc. It's bad enough that people are completely in credit card debt and now have to lose their homes. Lets hope things change come November."
Is that some kinda weird way of saying that you are FOR all the bailouts? There are plenty of people who lied, cheated, or damn near stole money in the housing boom and most of them are the "homeowners" that need to be 'saved' now. Most of them will never be held accountable in ANY way for their misdeeds. You are for this? It is ok to lie, cheat or be just terribly financially risky, as long as everyone else is doing it too? (and just saying "tisk tisk" then bailing them out IS telling them that)
This junk is just gonna get louder and louder till November. Just wait for the REAL election when it is McCain V Obama. Housing and how to "fix" it is gonna be every other word coming out of their mouths. The thing is, after the elections, regardless of who gets elected alot of it will go away. The government is gonna pull a Katrina cleanup on us and talk big game, spend alot of money, and help just about no one, with the possible exception of their campaign contributers. And yes, that money they spend is your tax money. (or in reality, your kids tax money as it is all borrowed money that will have to be paid back.)
On a side note, I thought of something kinda odd and I feel like a thread hijack. Can any of you think of something where the government acted quickly and efficiently and did the right thing? I am having trouble. 9/11, katrina, iraq, afganistan, Stock bubble pooping, housing bubble (the whole thing)...... In the last 8 years, can you name 1 thing that was organized, performed, and completed by the government within budget and actually successful in helping the majority of the intended people in a timly mannor? I am sure there is something, but I have a rageing headache right now and cant think of it. any ideas?