Foxconn Sees New Source of Cheap Labor: The U.S.A.

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Submitted by The-Shoveler on November 9, 2012 - 7:47am

Actually I think the cost of labor is being offset by the cost of shipping and Automation.

Beware the Robot !!
Just kidding sort of.

"Foxconn is planning to build manufacturing plants in the U.S., probably in cites such as Detroit and Los Angeles. 'Since the manufacturing of Apple's products is rather complicated, the market watchers expect the rumored plants to focus on LCD TV production, which can be highly automated and easier.

Update Foxconn says they have no current plans to expand their operations in the U.S.A. at this time.

Submitted by outtamojo on November 9, 2012 - 8:16am.

Oh great! Are they going to build dorms there too?

Submitted by flu on November 9, 2012 - 8:29am.

It would solve the housing problem :)

Also, anti-china/ china bashing people need not apply...

Though technically, the irony to this is...Foxconn is not a chinese company... It's taiwanese company run by taiwanese senior management team... So all those things about workers rights and labor abuses by a company from "china" some American people flunked the geography lesson.... But hey, they all look the same, so what...

And despite the bashing...It's history dates all the back to the Atari 2600 days when it was previously known as "Hon Hai"

It accounts for 40% of consumer electronics products...And has manufacturing facilities in Asia, Europe (eastern block) and South America and Mexico....Presumably where labor is cheap(er)

Submitted by XBoxBoy on November 9, 2012 - 8:33am.

First off this report is probably just a rumor and could easily be wrong.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-575472...

But one thing to keep in mind. If you went to a fully automated production with virtually no workers, then you could save shipping costs by manufacturing close to the customers. So, wouldn't surprise me to see more factories coming back to the USA as automated manufacturing develops. Not that that would mean jobs though.

Submitted by The-Shoveler on November 9, 2012 - 9:07am.

One thing I think this makes very obvious, raising minimum wage to a more living wage will NOT drive out manufacturing Jobs etc...

Also I think it will encourage more people to get off Gov. support and actually lower the real cost.

Submitted by flu on November 9, 2012 - 9:13am.

The-Shoveler wrote:
One thing I think this makes very obvious, raising minimum wage to a more living wage will NOT drive out manufacturing Jobs etc...

Also I think it will encourage more people to get off Gov. support and actually lower the real cost.

If they are skilled manufacturing jobs, they won't be paying minimum wage.

Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on November 9, 2012 - 11:26am.

Can robots be unionized?

Submitted by spdrun on November 9, 2012 - 11:31am.

But the people who maintain the robots can the unionized. We have a long way to go before automated lines are self-maintaining and self-managing.

Secondly, Taiwan is officially China ... as in the Republic of. The rest of China has just illegally seceded. :)

Submitted by flu on November 9, 2012 - 11:33am.

spdrun wrote:
But the people who maintain the robots can the unionized. We have a long way to go before automated lines are self-maintaining and self-managing.

Secondly, Taiwan is officially China ... as in the Republic of. The rest of China has just illegally seceded. :)

fvck you too.

Submitted by ltsdd on November 9, 2012 - 11:35am.

where are they going to put the plant in LA?

Submitted by flu on November 9, 2012 - 11:36am.

flu wrote:
spdrun wrote:
But the people who maintain the robots can the unionized. We have a long way to go before automated lines are self-maintaining and self-managing.

Secondly, Taiwan is officially China ... as in the Republic of. The rest of China has just illegally seceded. :)

fvck you too.

:)

Submitted by flu on November 9, 2012 - 11:41am.

For the search lazy..And sorry guys, I doubt it's gonna happen in L.A.

Read the article:

Translation: you must be able to speak,read,write Chinese (at least for the engineering/manager jobs)...

http://www.zdnet.com/foxconn-building-ma...

Foxconn building manufacturing plants in US
Summary: Taiwanese electronics manufacturing giant, which produces various high-tech devices including Apple iPhone and Amazon Kindle, is evaluating Detroit and Los Angeles, among other cities, as potential sites.

By Cyrus Lee for View from China | November 9, 2012 -- 08:01 GMT (00:01 PST)
U.S. cities including Detroit and Los Angeles are currently under assessment by Foxconn as potential manufacturing sites, according to Sina News.

However, as the production of Apple products is "very complex", market watchers expect the new plants in the U.S. to only manufacture LCD televisions--the production process of which is highly automated and relatively simple, the report noted.

Terry Guo, president of Foxconn Technology, said the Taiwanese manufacturing company will carry out training programs for engineers in the Unites States, who also will be sent to the Chinese mainland or Taiwan to participate in product design and manufacturing processes.

This training program will provide a Chinese language environment for these engineers, according to Guo, who added having first-hand learning experience at the Chinese manufacturing bases will be helpful when they return to the United States.

Guo earlier this week also said buoyant iPhone 5 demand had put Foxconn in a spot. The complex techniques of producing the new smartphone had affected assemble speeds, making it the "most difficult device ever to assemble", said an unnamed executive from Foxconn.

Admitting it was difficult to keep up with demand, Guo declined to comment if he had plans for Foxconn International to also manufacture the iPhone 5. This business unit currently does not make Apple products, manufacturing instead for other major clients Nokia, Motorola, and HTC.

Foxconn International's share price surged over 30 percent this week after market rumors suggested this unit of Foxconn Technology was going to make iPhone 5.

Submitted by spdrun on November 9, 2012 - 11:44am.

Deeee-TROIT? Problem will be attracting intelligent engineering talent to a festering rat-hole like that.

Submitted by flu on November 9, 2012 - 11:54am.

spdrun wrote:
Deeee-TROIT? Problem will be attracting intelligent engineering talent to a festering rat-hole like that.

My money would be on them expanding manufacturing in Mexico. Kinda like what sony does.

In fact, I believe some folks that work in the sony tv business locally were recently given two options...
1) Move to Japan
or
2) Move to Mexico.

Because their U.S. positions were being eliminated.

Submitted by The-Shoveler on November 9, 2012 - 12:24pm.

flu wrote:
spdrun wrote:
Deeee-TROIT? Problem will be attracting intelligent engineering talent to a festering rat-hole like that.

My money would be on them expanding manufacturing in Mexico. Kinda like what sony does.

In fact, I believe some folks that work in the sony tv business locally were recently given two options...
1) Move to Japan
or
2) Move to Mexico.

Because their U.S. positions were being eliminated.

There are a lot of Chinese speaking engineering types in L.A.

Not so sure about Mexico or Detroit,

I think it's more about automation and cheap reliable electricity etc..

Submitted by spdrun on November 9, 2012 - 12:29pm.

Apparently, some are coming to the 'troit -- developer is building a development "for Chinese immigrants to allow them to attend UMich at in-state rates."

http://www.annarbor.com/business-review/...

(not sure if this will fly well -- bet they'll raise the residency requirement, plus there are non-discrimination rules unless it's set up as a co-op).

Submitted by dumbrenter on November 9, 2012 - 1:01pm.

Will they have nets on the buildings too.

Submitted by ocrenter on November 9, 2012 - 3:56pm.

"Highly automated" manufacturing is the key.

The title of the article is very misleading.

Submitted by enron_by_the_sea on November 9, 2012 - 4:41pm.

dumbrenter wrote:
Will they have nets on the buildings too.

Why? To prevent robot suicides?

Submitted by The-Shoveler on November 9, 2012 - 5:01pm.

enron_by_the_sea wrote:
dumbrenter wrote:
Will they have nets on the buildings too.

Why? To prevent robot suicides?

You saw the first episode of futurama too !!

Submitted by svelte on November 9, 2012 - 5:20pm.

Baxter, a robot from a company called Rethink, is about to go on the market for $22K. This will enable work to be done for about $4 per hour.

Any job Baxter can do should be able to return to the US.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/201...

Submitted by The-Shoveler on November 10, 2012 - 1:17am.

Update Foxconn says they have no current plans to expand their operations in the U.S.A. at this time.

Submitted by flu on November 10, 2012 - 12:37pm.

Here is the article, for the lazy...

http://www.freep.com/article/20121109/BU...

If I were an big(er) employer, I would stay away too, especially from California. It wouldn't make any sense... Nevada, Arizona, Texas might be better options. Kinda like what Intel does.

Well thank god they aren't coming! We won't have a foreign company setting up shop in America, California or Detroit...
To think that a company would come here and offer employment to Americans would be completely reprehensible. Get out the fishnets and suicide prevention hotlines. Because obviously if they did that, they would have a way to skirt every unemployment law possible (unlike any other company that sets up shop here)...We don't need more companies to hire. We don't need more jobs created here...Phew... That was a close one! We're better off now!

Submitted by spdrun on November 10, 2012 - 1:35pm.

Except that a lot of intelligent engineering types prefer California to nowhere states like AZ and NV (Texas is a bit better depending where you are). Note that Silicon Valley is still in Silicon Valley, not in Poenis, Lost Wages, or Austin!

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