flipper-burning homes

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Submitted by nostradamus on July 9, 2009 - 10:53am

For schadenfreude, post houses that have burned the most flippers. Like this house:

Flipper 1: lost $67,248
Flipper 2: lost $29,752
Flipper 3: TBD

Submitted by AN on July 9, 2009 - 11:04am.

How do you know they lost that much $? If they put 0% down and roll the closing cost into the loan, then they lost nothing.

Submitted by nostradamus on July 9, 2009 - 11:14am.

How did they lose nothing? If they sold for less than they bought, money is lost. If they defaulted, credit score is hurt. Time, taxes, and cost of upgrades, and the 2x closing costs aren't free.

Either way they still got burned, maybe along with the lender.

Submitted by AN on July 9, 2009 - 11:46am.

Money is lost, yes, but if it's not their money, why should they care? credit score hurts, unless they did a short sale, which would then not affect their credit score as much. Time, I guess that's worth something. Taxes, what taxes? Upgrades, you're assume they did upgrades. Like I said, if they didn't have to pay closing cost w/ their own money, they wouldn't lose anything. What if they stop paying for 6 months while living in it rent free? That's worth something.

Submitted by evolusd on July 9, 2009 - 12:54pm.

AN - from my understanding, short sales do have a significant negative impact on your credit score. Maybe not as much as a foreclosure, but a definite derogatory remark.

Submitted by AN on July 9, 2009 - 1:36pm.

evolusd wrote:
AN - from my understanding, short sales do have a significant negative impact on your credit score. Maybe not as much as a foreclosure, but a definite derogatory remark.

This is what I said:

AN wrote:
credit score hurts, unless they did a short sale, which would then not affect their credit score as much.

I can't tell you how much it would affect your credit score since I never did one.